Hi Igor,

For a 5'2" rider (I'm not going to assume it's for a lady or for your 
friend!), the 45cm Clem is perfect. Obviously there is no "objective" right 
answer for which bars to use, and it's gonna depend on different factors (I 
know I'm not dropping any mind-blowing information, but just to lay the 
groundwork for my suggestions). 
I'd ask the following questions:

   - What year Clem is it? The older Clems had shorter top tubes (less 
   reach) than the newer (2019 and post) models. 
   - What is the intended use? Tooling around, commuting, touring, mountain 
   biking? 
   - How does the rider like to be positioned? Aggressive and racy? Upright 
   and comfy? 
   - What is the rider's morphology? Long torso, short legs? Long legs, 
   short torso? Normal legs, normal torso?
   - Are there aesthetic considerations? 
   - Are there cost considerations?

For me (an N of 1 - I am 5'8", longer torso with very short legs, for 
reference), I currently ride a Clem 45 L (longer reach 2019 model, but 
still with 26" wheels before the switch to 27.5") with a 70cm Nitto Tallux 
at the minimum insertion and 60cm Tosco bars and I couldn't be happier. My 
wife rides a Clem 45 L with Soma Oxford bars and I really like that set up 
too, but I find the Oxfords at 54cm (identical to Nitto Albatross) a tad 
bit narrow for my taste. I rode my pre-2019 Clem H with a Riv Bullmoose 
(67cm) and it was totally great - but I was running that bike single speed 
and as a dedicated mountain bike - I don't love the 30° sweep for longer 
rides (on longer rides, I want 45-60° sweep). I tried Boscos for a minute 
(I think it was the 54cm that came stock on my wife's Clem), but I felt 
almost cartoonishly upright and didn't feel connected enough with the bike. 

For your rider, at 5'2", I'm guessing you have a newer (post 2019 geo 
changes) Clem and it's likely they'll want swept back bars of some sort. I 
think the Albatross (or Soma Oxford) are perfect for the Clem  - right 
rise, sweep, width, and good looking to boot. The Toscos, like I mentioned, 
are great, but I'd opt for the 55cm model probably in your rider's case. 
Re: the Boscos, I'm a bit taller than your rider, so maybe Boscos would do 
the trick in their case. Lastly, if they don't want a relaxed position, 
you've got a billion options of flat or riser bars with minimal sweep, but 
I won't bother with recs. 



cheers,

John (outside Fontainebleau)


On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 6:36:58 AM UTC+2 Kim H. wrote:

> @Igor -
> I have a couple of Terry women's saddles that are lightly used to sell, if 
> you are interested for your lady friend.
>
> https://www.terrybicycles.com/Cite-X-Gel-Italia
>
> https://www.terrybicycles.com/Liberator-X
>
> Contact me off this group for more details and pictures.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 7:52:34 PM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> A lot of nice bars to choose from. That said, the Bosco is perfect. The 
>> extra rise is great as it results in less stem exposed than with the Tosco. 
>> I suggest one of the three FacePlater stems makes life so much easier & the 
>> older tig welded one is currently on sale, I think. But, without the frame 
>> & handlebar at hand it’s guesswork at best regarding stem length. I am 
>> 5’10”, ride a 52 Clem with Bosco & 135 FacePlater. I do not know how much 
>> shorter the reach is on the 45, but I would guess a stem closer to 70-80? 
>> Call Riv & ask them, they give excellent advice. Or, try to get your hands 
>> n a few different (cheap) stems to try?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2024, at 9:28 PM, Igor <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any suggestions or ways to "know" what stem or bars to use? Not sure 
>> where to begin. 
>>
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