This is a 2023 45cm Clem.

 I'm looking at putting her in a somewhat middle between racy and upright. 
Bosco could work for that I imagine, with the shifters and levers further 
up and gives her options. 
Alternatively was thinking Losco could be good, too.  Might have her try 
the Vegan saddle as well.

On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-4 John Johnson wrote:

> Hi Igor,
>
> For a 5'2" rider (I'm not going to assume it's for a lady or for your 
> friend!), the 45cm Clem is perfect. Obviously there is no "objective" right 
> answer for which bars to use, and it's gonna depend on different factors (I 
> know I'm not dropping any mind-blowing information, but just to lay the 
> groundwork for my suggestions). 
> I'd ask the following questions:
>
>    - What year Clem is it? The older Clems had shorter top tubes (less 
>    reach) than the newer (2019 and post) models. 
>    - What is the intended use? Tooling around, commuting, touring, 
>    mountain biking? 
>    - How does the rider like to be positioned? Aggressive and racy? 
>    Upright and comfy? 
>    - What is the rider's morphology? Long torso, short legs? Long legs, 
>    short torso? Normal legs, normal torso?
>    - Are there aesthetic considerations? 
>    - Are there cost considerations?
>
> For me (an N of 1 - I am 5'8", longer torso with very short legs, for 
> reference), I currently ride a Clem 45 L (longer reach 2019 model, but 
> still with 26" wheels before the switch to 27.5") with a 70cm Nitto Tallux 
> at the minimum insertion and 60cm Tosco bars and I couldn't be happier. My 
> wife rides a Clem 45 L with Soma Oxford bars and I really like that set up 
> too, but I find the Oxfords at 54cm (identical to Nitto Albatross) a tad 
> bit narrow for my taste. I rode my pre-2019 Clem H with a Riv Bullmoose 
> (67cm) and it was totally great - but I was running that bike single speed 
> and as a dedicated mountain bike - I don't love the 30° sweep for longer 
> rides (on longer rides, I want 45-60° sweep). I tried Boscos for a minute 
> (I think it was the 54cm that came stock on my wife's Clem), but I felt 
> almost cartoonishly upright and didn't feel connected enough with the bike. 
>
> For your rider, at 5'2", I'm guessing you have a newer (post 2019 geo 
> changes) Clem and it's likely they'll want swept back bars of some sort. I 
> think the Albatross (or Soma Oxford) are perfect for the Clem  - right 
> rise, sweep, width, and good looking to boot. The Toscos, like I mentioned, 
> are great, but I'd opt for the 55cm model probably in your rider's case. 
> Re: the Boscos, I'm a bit taller than your rider, so maybe Boscos would do 
> the trick in their case. Lastly, if they don't want a relaxed position, 
> you've got a billion options of flat or riser bars with minimal sweep, but 
> I won't bother with recs. 
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> John (outside Fontainebleau)
>
>
> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 6:36:58 AM UTC+2 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Igor -
>> I have a couple of Terry women's saddles that are lightly used to sell, 
>> if you are interested for your lady friend.
>>
>> https://www.terrybicycles.com/Cite-X-Gel-Italia
>>
>> https://www.terrybicycles.com/Liberator-X
>>
>> Contact me off this group for more details and pictures.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 7:52:34 PM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of nice bars to choose from. That said, the Bosco is perfect. The 
>>> extra rise is great as it results in less stem exposed than with the Tosco. 
>>> I suggest one of the three FacePlater stems makes life so much easier & the 
>>> older tig welded one is currently on sale, I think. But, without the frame 
>>> & handlebar at hand it’s guesswork at best regarding stem length. I am 
>>> 5’10”, ride a 52 Clem with Bosco & 135 FacePlater. I do not know how much 
>>> shorter the reach is on the 45, but I would guess a stem closer to 70-80? 
>>> Call Riv & ask them, they give excellent advice. Or, try to get your hands 
>>> n a few different (cheap) stems to try?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2024, at 9:28 PM, Igor <belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any suggestions or ways to "know" what stem or bars to use? Not sure 
>>> where to begin. 
>>>
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