Thank you for this suggestion!  I will try with 9.8.beta6 + #33842.  I hope 
that all dependencies are in the branch.

Martin

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 21:32:10 UTC+1 John H Palmieri wrote:

> Could it be #34547, #16522, or #33842? I'm just taking guesses based on 
> the newly merged tickets.
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:42:37 AM UTC-8 emanuel.c...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> From someone called mantepse in the sage-shell-mode 
>> <https://github.com/sagemath/sage-shell-mode/issues/69#issuecomment-1400278482>
>>  issue 
>> on github :
>>
>> ```
>> It is really strange: I have a 9.8.beta7 build and a 9.8.beta6 build. 
>> Apparently, if I first use the beta6 one for sage-shell-mode, I can then 
>> use beta7 in the same emacs session.
>> ```
>>
>> I don't get it either...
>>
>> There are two short Python files in the current `sahe-shell-mode` emacs 
>> package, which are my prime suspects for an incompatibility with Python 
>> 3.11. Now for a strategy for debugging *this*...
>>
>> Any idea ?
>>
>> Le lundi 23 janvier 2023 à 10:48:48 UTC+1, axio...@yahoo.de a écrit :
>>
>>> Emacs stopped working for me again!  I don't get it.
>>>
>>> This is terrible.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 14:41:04 UTC+1 emanuel.c...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This patches fix my Fricas issue indeed. But losing the Emacs interface 
>>>> is a big hit for me, so I revert to 9.6.beta6 for now.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you nevertheless !
>>>>
>>>> Le vendredi 20 janvier 2023 à 22:58:53 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> In the hopes that this will fix it, I opened 
>>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34927.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 1:46:02 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this change fix the fricas.py failure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py 
>>>>>> b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>> index dc2ce71f26..ceba6f90dc 100644
>>>>>> --- a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>> +++ b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>> @@ -891,7 +891,7 @@ http://fricas.sourceforge.net.
>>>>>>          """
>>>>>>          EXAMPLES::
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -            sage: fricas.__reduce__()                               
>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>> +            sage: FriCAS().__reduce__()                             
>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>>              (<function reduce_load_fricas at 0x...>, ())
>>>>>>              sage: f, args = _                                       
>>>>>>             # optional - fricas
>>>>>>              sage: f(*args) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 12:34:21 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>> emanuel.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apart from the  Emacs issye alteady reported 
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/sage-release/c/QRjzctTlVeU/m/MKACzqcVAQAJ>,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I get the three permanent failures I reported for the previous betas, 
>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>> well as a new one, which gives three errors :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> charpent@zen-book-flip:/usr/local/sage-9$ sage -t --long --warn-long 
>>>>>>> 259.6 --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py  # 3 doctests failed
>>>>>>> Running doctests with ID 2023-01-20-20-50-00-ee865d6d.
>>>>>>> Git branch: develop
>>>>>>> Git ref: 9.8.beta7
>>>>>>> Running with SAGE_LOCAL='/usr/local/sage-9/local' and 
>>>>>>> SAGE_VENV='/usr/local/sage-9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.10'
>>>>>>> Using 
>>>>>>> --optional=debian,dot2tex,fricas,gap_packages,libsemigroups,mathics,mathics_scanner,msolve,palettable,pint,pip,saclib,sage,sage_spkg
>>>>>>> Features to be detected: 
>>>>>>> 4ti2,benzene,bliss,buckygen,conway_polynomials,csdp,cvxopt,database_cremona_ellcurve,database_cremona_mini_ellcurve,database_cubic_hecke,database_jones_numfield,database_knotinfo,dvipng,gfan,graphviz,imagemagick,jupymake,kenzo,latte_int,lrslib,mcqd,meataxe,msolve,nauty,palp,pandoc,pdf2svg,pdftocairo,phitigra,plantri,polytopes_db,polytopes_db_4d,pynormaliz,python_igraph,rubiks,sage.combinat,sage.geometry.polyhedron,sage.graphs,sage.groups,sage.misc.cython,sage.plot,sage.rings.number_field,sage.rings.padics,sage.rings.real_double,sage.symbolic,sage_numerical_backends_coin,sagemath_doc_html,sphinx,tdlib
>>>>>>> Doctesting 1 file.
>>>>>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 259.6 
>>>>>>> --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 894, in 
>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>     fricas.__reduce__()                                           # 
>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 695, 
>>>>>>> in _run
>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[0]>", 
>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>         fricas.__reduce__()                                         
>>>>>>>   # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/lib/python3.10/copyreg.py", line 76, in _reduce_ex
>>>>>>>         raise TypeError(f"cannot pickle {cls.__name__!r} object")
>>>>>>>     TypeError: cannot pickle 'LazyImport' object
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 896, in 
>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>     f, args = _                                                   # 
>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 695, 
>>>>>>> in _run
>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[1]>", 
>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>         f, args = _                                                 
>>>>>>>   # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>     TypeError: cannot unpack non-iterable int object
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>> File "src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py", line 897, in 
>>>>>>> sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>>>     f(*args)                                                      # 
>>>>>>> optional - fricas
>>>>>>> Exception raised:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 695, 
>>>>>>> in _run
>>>>>>>         self.compile_and_execute(example, compiler, test.globs)
>>>>>>>       File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/sage/doctest/forker.py", line 
>>>>>>> 1093, in compile_and_execute
>>>>>>>         exec(compiled, globs)
>>>>>>>       File "<doctest sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__[2]>", 
>>>>>>> line 1, in <module>
>>>>>>>         f(*args)                                                     
>>>>>>>  # optional - fricas
>>>>>>>     NameError: name 'f' is not defined
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>>> 1 item had failures:
>>>>>>>    3 of   4 in sage.interfaces.fricas.FriCAS.__reduce__
>>>>>>>     [277 tests, 3 failures, 42.89 s]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 259.6 
>>>>>>> --random-seed=41414648133166628206443904124754495105 
>>>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py  # 3 doctests failed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Total time for all tests: 48.0 seconds
>>>>>>>     cpu time: 4.2 seconds
>>>>>>>     cumulative wall time: 42.9 seconds
>>>>>>> Features detected for doctesting: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2023 à 00:48:25 UTC+1, Volker Braun a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
>>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should probably gear up for a 9.8 release soon, so get your 
>>>>>>>> tickets ready ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 047281e0287 (trac/develop, tag: 9.8.beta7) Updated SageMath version 
>>>>>>>> to 9.8.beta7
>>>>>>>> 272c557d1f3 Trac #31668: Run TestSuite on polynomial rings
>>>>>>>> 6f8fb9ba3ef Trac #22067: generating function of integral points of 
>>>>>>>> polyhedra
>>>>>>>> 5544a33b815 Trac #21003: Add package pyscipopt, add MIP backend
>>>>>>>> b0422b2536b Trac #34838: setuptools_scm, contourpy, 
>>>>>>>> sphinxcontrib_websupport, typing_extensions: Add missing dependencies
>>>>>>>> 30d58156a46 Trac #34717: Check the presence of lrsnash for 
>>>>>>>> obtain_nash()
>>>>>>>> c7299453922 Trac #34891: fixing some E502 in tensor, dynamics, 
>>>>>>>> modules, plot, numerical
>>>>>>>> bc832cb3578 Trac #34889: Installation guide: On WSL, clear /mnt/c 
>>>>>>>> stuff from PATH
>>>>>>>> 3570a9a63bd Trac #34881: allow to remove no constraints
>>>>>>>> 0ceb1032430 Trac #34878: MixedIntegerLinearProgram.add_constraint: 
>>>>>>>> Option to return row indices, fix handling of empty constraints
>>>>>>>> df74efb66d2 Trac #34859: sagelib: Remove unnecessary import of 
>>>>>>>> typing_extensions
>>>>>>>> b6a76d7a848 Trac #34857: bump giac's GIAC_MIN_VERSION to 1.9
>>>>>>>> 6a8155e6e5d Trac #34854: molien_series() should not use GAP's 
>>>>>>>> VirtualCharacter
>>>>>>>> dddf3ca0b08 Trac #34853: sage-env: Fix misconfiguration of pip
>>>>>>>> 6f631021ac4 Trac #34847: modernize some for loops in cython files
>>>>>>>> 9ffabc7f3e1 Trac #34844: removal of some unused imports about 
>>>>>>>> string conversion
>>>>>>>> 4b50bc2af27 Trac #34843: pep8 cleanup in ore_polynomial_element.pyx
>>>>>>>> bdd14cec19b Trac #34837: fix E502 in some pyx files
>>>>>>>> 172ad73ae38 Trac #34836: fix E271 and E272 in rings/ and schemes/
>>>>>>>> 3d861266040 Trac #34749: Packages dsdp, scip_sdp
>>>>>>>> 64d232b5bfd Trac #31329: Update scipoptsuite to 8.0.2 (now open 
>>>>>>>> source!), rename to scip
>>>>>>>> 2dcafb3ac57 Trac #34839: Support tox 4
>>>>>>>> ad68f15d97f Trac #34648: Developer's guide: warn the transition to 
>>>>>>>> GitHub and add links to the transition guide
>>>>>>>> acebbc1a9e8 Trac #34824: do not include parent in hash of parking 
>>>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>> 9a7b6310dde Trac #34818: Error when defining differentials over 
>>>>>>>> GCA's with relations.
>>>>>>>> bb63c582122 Trac #34807: Add Construction of Hadamard matrices up 
>>>>>>>> to order 664
>>>>>>>> 8a0b16d93be Trac #34804: Deprecate sage.interfaces is_...Element 
>>>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>> 80f8f950e95 Trac #34793: clean 3 files inside modular
>>>>>>>> b0cc282500e Trac #34547: Interfaces: use more lazy imports, restore 
>>>>>>>> top-level functions maxima_console etc.
>>>>>>>> 5905da7ebfc Trac #33915: inseparable elliptic-curve isogenies
>>>>>>>> 98b22ebdcf7 Trac #32826: scalar-multiplication endomorphisms of 
>>>>>>>> elliptic curves
>>>>>>>> 4f11a750df9 Trac #8744: Improve add_edge in BipartiteGraph to make 
>>>>>>>> it independent from the current coloring
>>>>>>>> 08aa2f8edaa Trac #33842: Upgrade python to 3.11
>>>>>>>> 75bedf95960 Trac #34783: various details in combinat/
>>>>>>>> 33fa8715bd5 Trac #34742: Optional package soplex (dependency of 
>>>>>>>> scip)
>>>>>>>> f84915f69d8 Trac #34726: Optional package papilo (dependency of 
>>>>>>>> scip)
>>>>>>>> e5cf1c0d9f2 Trac #34694: Bug in ExteriorAlgebra interior product
>>>>>>>> ebb9b611d02 Trac #34416: Manage pexpect logs created during 
>>>>>>>> doctesting
>>>>>>>> 962177a2da1 Trac #33907: interfaces/expect.py random test failure
>>>>>>>> 66409243991 Trac #16522: lazy_import doesn't resolve properly when 
>>>>>>>> indirectly imported
>>>>>>>> 2114066f877 (tag: 9.8.beta6) Updated SageMath version to 9.8.beta6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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