[Bug 305793] Re: starting partitioner freezes machine at 50%

2008-12-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

** Attachment added: hdparm-and-friends.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20264713/hdparm-and-friends.txt

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[Bug 305793] Re: starting partitioner freezes machine at 50%

2008-12-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
This machine is directly attached to the internet; assuming the LiceCD
supports it I'm happy to enable a remote login if anyone wants to poke
around. Or think of this as  great excuse to buy an Intel x25-e. (No
idea if the x25-m will have the same problem or not) Web search finds
one similar incident report.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220086

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[Bug 305793] Re: starting partitioner freezes machine at 50%

2008-12-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Finally found an installation path that works. Never burnt so many CDs
in my life.

8.10 i386 live cd : FREEZE
8.10 amd64 lice cd : FREEZE
8.04 amd64 live cd : FREEZE
8.10 amd64 alternate cd : hangs, but way after paritioning
8.04.1  amd64 alternate cd : SUCCESS

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Re: [Wesnoth-dev] About the name of my translation (last answer to Robert)

2008-10-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
(you are exactly like Sith against Jedi)

Usually, the project leader chooses some objective decision criteria.
Either a home brew set of rules, or following something like  BCP
47.The criteria is applied, the decision is made, the end. However,
I'm also cool with a light saber battle.

-Jeff

BCP47 http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt

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Re: [Wesnoth-dev] About the name of my translation (brief answers and conclusion)

2008-10-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
I think Valencian (RACV) sounds reasonable.

First, I don't see a need for Wesnoth language translations to be
sanctioned by the United Nations, ISO, or any other authority. Heck,
its not uncommon for people to translate computer interfaces to
Klingon. http://www.google.com/intl/xx-klingon

So to me the question boils down to name collision or user confusion.
The Valencian (RACV) proposal seems like a fairly descriptive name,
and separable from other competing concepts of Valencian.

I know linguistic identity can mix with political identity and ignite
a lot of passion, and sometimes these battles spill over to unlikely
places. But basically - from Wesnoth's perspective - is there really a
problem here?

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Bug#499599: pylucene: README code example doesn't work

2008-09-22 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Forwarding to upstream.


Accepted jcc 1.9-8 (source i386)

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Format: 1.8
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:31:31 -0700
Source: jcc
Binary: jcc
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.9-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Closes: 497131
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add ${python:Depends} (closes: 497131)
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Accepted:
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jcc_1.9-8.dsc
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-8.dsc
jcc_1.9-8_i386.deb
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-8_i386.deb


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Bug#497131: [jcc] Please add ${python:Depends} to Depends field

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks! NMU uploads are fine, or I'll get to this when I can.



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Bug#496332: [pylucene] still FTBFS

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks! NMU uploads are fine, or I'll get to this when I can.



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Bug#497131: [jcc] Please add ${python:Depends} to Depends field

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks! NMU uploads are fine, or I'll get to this when I can.



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Bug#496332: [pylucene] still FTBFS

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks! NMU uploads are fine, or I'll get to this when I can.



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Bug#496332: pylucene - FTBFS: error: Python.h: No such file or directory

2008-08-24 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Help appreciated.



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Bug#494690: ftbfs on arm*, uses '$' in C code

2008-08-21 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 You'll need to use -fdollars-in-identifiers in gcc flags to allow
 compiling code with $ as identifier.

Sounds good to me. Feel free to submit as a non-maintainer upload.

Or I'll get around to it eventually.



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Accepted jcc 1.9-7 (source amd64)

2008-08-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Binary: jcc
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.9-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix important debian/changelog typo
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Accepted:
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jcc_1.9-7.dsc
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-7.dsc
jcc_1.9-7_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-7_amd64.deb


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Accepted jcc 1.9-5 (source amd64)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Format: 1.8
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:54:09 -0700
Source: jcc
Binary: jcc
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.9-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Closes: 493992
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * fix build on non-AMD64 (closes: 493992)
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Accepted:
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jcc_1.9-5.dsc
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-5.dsc
jcc_1.9-5_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-5_amd64.deb


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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
What library is that?

libjvm.so

Specifically /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

As found here: 
http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/openjdk-6-jre-headless/filelist

I'm surprised you got PyLucene to build; I wonder if it runs (there is
a simple test in
the PyLucene README.Debian)

Jeff



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Sounds good to me. Will apply and upload your patch today.

Thanks for the hard work.



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Uploaded.



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
What library is that?

libjvm.so

Specifically /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

As found here: 
http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/openjdk-6-jre-headless/filelist

I'm surprised you got PyLucene to build; I wonder if it runs (there is
a simple test in
the PyLucene README.Debian)

Jeff



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Sounds good to me. Will apply and upload your patch today.

Thanks for the hard work.



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Uploaded.



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Peter,

Thank you very much for the patch. It is almost right.

Open JDK 1.6 has this really weird setup where one of the shared libraries
is under the server subdirectory on AMD64 and under the client subdirectory
under i386. (Not sure what the story is on other architectures).

The PyLucene binary has almost exactly the same problem if you are interested
in looking at that one too.

I'm happy to apply a revised patch and submit. Or I'll make an effort
to revise your
patch myself if I can find the time.

-Jeff



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Bug#493992: jcc FTBFS on everything except amd64 due to wrong paths (was jcc_1.9-4(sparc/unstable): FTBFS on sparc, missing dependency)

2008-08-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Peter,

Thank you very much for the patch. It is almost right.

Open JDK 1.6 has this really weird setup where one of the shared libraries
is under the server subdirectory on AMD64 and under the client subdirectory
under i386. (Not sure what the story is on other architectures).

The PyLucene binary has almost exactly the same problem if you are interested
in looking at that one too.

I'm happy to apply a revised patch and submit. Or I'll make an effort
to revise your
patch myself if I can find the time.

-Jeff



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[pylucene-dev] Fwd: pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED

2008-08-05 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Hip hip hurray! And finally.

Both PyLucene and JCC are now part of Debian main.  Kudos to
everyone directly involved, and a special thank you to Sun for
open sourcing of Java. That made life so much easier.

These package will automatically propogate all over the place
over time, including Debian derived distributions like Ubuntu.
Right now, users of Debian unstable (sid) should be able to
apt-get install pylucene.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jcc.html
http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pylucene.html


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Accepted:
pylucene_2.3.1-1.diff.gz
 to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1-1.diff.gz
pylucene_2.3.1-1.dsc
 to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1-1.dsc
pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb
 to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb
pylucene_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz
 to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz


Override entries for your package:
pylucene_2.3.1-1.dsc - extra text
pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb - extra text

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Accepted pylucene 2.3.1-1 (source amd64)

2008-08-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:49 -0700
Source: pylucene
Binary: pylucene
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 2.3.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 pylucene   - Python extension for accessing Java Lucene
Closes: 490254
Changes: 
 pylucene (2.3.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial release (closes: 490254)
Files: 
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Accepted:
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pylucene_2.3.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1-1.dsc
pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb
pylucene_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/p/pylucene/pylucene_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted jcc 1.9-4 (source amd64)

2008-08-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Source: jcc
Binary: jcc
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.9-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * fix a dependency bug
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Accepted:
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jcc_1.9-4.dsc
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-4.dsc
jcc_1.9-4_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-4_amd64.deb


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Accepted jcc 1.9-3 (source amd64)

2008-08-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.8
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:20:20 -0700
Source: jcc
Binary: jcc
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.9-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Move to main using OpenJDK
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 a0daf658d58cc50b56dcc1234e8432a9ecbbadbe 167554 jcc_1.9-3_amd64.deb
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jcc_1.9-3.dsc
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jcc_1.9-3_amd64.deb
Files: 
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jcc_1.9-3.dsc
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-3.dsc
jcc_1.9-3_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-3_amd64.deb


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Bug#488895:

2008-07-21 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
But that said, openjdk entered Debian now (yay!).

Good.  Lucene2 can be moved to main with a build-depends on OpenJDK.
Who's got the energy to do it? :)



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Bug#488895:

2008-07-21 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
But that said, openjdk entered Debian now (yay!).

Good.  Lucene2 can be moved to main with a build-depends on OpenJDK.
Who's got the energy to do it? :)



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Accepted leptonlib 1.57-1 (source i386)

2008-07-16 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:21 -0700
Source: leptonlib
Binary: libleptonica leptonica-progs libleptonica-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.57-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 leptonica-progs - sample programs for Leptonica image processing library
 libleptonica - image processing library
 libleptonica-dev - image processing library
Changes: 
 leptonlib (1.57-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
Files: 
 730de86f5eb20abbded6b07018c77fea 646 graphics optional leptonlib_1.57-1.dsc
 890f3ba2cc0d904306a1a4fc9eae23fb 3945624 graphics optional 
leptonlib_1.57.orig.tar.gz
 6ddc12584d150327895b34b029017b86 6372 graphics optional 
leptonlib_1.57-1.diff.gz
 bbcca2034da370702fa0eac5c0b9edc9 866858 libdevel optional 
libleptonica-dev_1.57-1_i386.deb
 dfb7be697e3763f765e1e8280cffbb17 437116 libs optional 
libleptonica_1.57-1_i386.deb
 efd08d55ffd9b6dbd62701a1040faf4a 97814 graphics optional 
leptonica-progs_1.57-1_i386.deb

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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonica-progs_1.57-1_i386.deb
leptonlib_1.57-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.57-1.diff.gz
leptonlib_1.57-1.dsc
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.57-1.dsc
leptonlib_1.57.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.57.orig.tar.gz
libleptonica-dev_1.57-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica-dev_1.57-1_i386.deb
libleptonica_1.57-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica_1.57-1_i386.deb


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Bug#488895: please move to main

2008-07-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
When we went through this for Lucene 1.4.3, the trick was to compile
under main, and then make sure the regression tests passed if Sun Java
was installed. That way we knew the package was ok to ship and the
problems were all in the runtime.

But seriously, what's the ETA for Sun Java to enter main? Fedora is
already shipping it, right?



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Bug#490254: ITP: pylucene - Python extension for accessing Java Lucene

2008-07-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

http://pylucene.osafoundation.org/

Apache 2.0 License



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Bug#488895: please move to main

2008-07-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
When we went through this for Lucene 1.4.3, the trick was to compile
under main, and then make sure the regression tests passed if Sun Java
was installed. That way we knew the package was ok to ship and the
problems were all in the runtime.

But seriously, what's the ETA for Sun Java to enter main? Fedora is
already shipping it, right?



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Bug#490254: ITP: pylucene - Python extension for accessing Java Lucene

2008-07-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

http://pylucene.osafoundation.org/

Apache 2.0 License



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Bug#488895: please move to main

2008-07-10 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
When we went through this for Lucene 1.4.3, the trick was to compile
under main, and then make sure the regression tests passed if Sun Java
was installed. That way we knew the package was ok to ship and the
problems were all in the runtime.

But seriously, what's the ETA for Sun Java to enter main? Fedora is
already shipping it, right?



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] RFC 5064 Archived-At header

2008-07-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Will someone provide some real use case scenarios of how the
archived-at URL gets used by a message receipient.  If I have
the message locally, do I care where it is archived?

It's handy if you are writing a blog. For example, Linux Weekly
News reports on the Linux Kernel mailing list. They quote
particular messages, and provide an archival link. This lets readers
examine the (possibly active) thread.

http://lwn.net/Articles/286910/
http://lwn.net/Articles/287490/
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Accepted jcc 1.9-1 (source amd64)

2008-06-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:33:03 -0700
Source: jcc
Binary: jcc
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.9-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jcc- code generator producing a Python extension from Java classes
Changes: 
 jcc (1.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial release
Files: 
 0355e3aefd197843ad22acda32f8d1fb 655 contrib/python extra jcc_1.9-1.dsc
 3e1ea01b4ed507632ad521c166a4d70a 56698 contrib/python extra jcc_1.9.orig.tar.gz
 f11ab0c2ecd7d3121147d7316339812a 3485 contrib/python extra jcc_1.9-1.diff.gz
 2339272ba73f975308f5f029559e8bd5 167810 contrib/python extra 
jcc_1.9-1_amd64.deb

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Accepted:
jcc_1.9-1.diff.gz
  to pool/contrib/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-1.diff.gz
jcc_1.9-1.dsc
  to pool/contrib/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-1.dsc
jcc_1.9-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/contrib/j/jcc/jcc_1.9-1_amd64.deb
jcc_1.9.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/contrib/j/jcc/jcc_1.9.orig.tar.gz


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full site search

2008-06-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Ok, that one got away from me. Let's try this again.

I've enabled an experimental full site search. It's definitely not
ready for prime time; too slow and we aren't going to update the index
regularly. And it might go away at any time. But if you want to play
around, have fun. We don't really have a good use case for full site
search and it takes some work to do it well. So speak up if you think
this is worth pursuing.

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[pylucene-dev] Re: debian / ubuntu jcc package

2008-06-02 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
One thing I noticed is that your package contains _jcc.so for Python 2.4
and Python 2.5. Is that intentionally?

No, it came for free from the build infrastructure.

That's because the linker can't find libjvm.so (which should be part of Sun's 
JDK). You
can set an rpath in setup.py but at least for Fedora this may not be 
acceptable [...]

Thanks; that was it. I'll try adding an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf.d
because Debian
disallows the use of rpath.

http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue
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[pylucene-dev] Re: debian / ubuntu jcc package

2008-06-02 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
I've placed an Ubuntu PyLucene package online at just now. I'm also in
progress submitting a package for inclusion with Debian. But that will
almost certainly require some time and back and forth - the last time
I did this, the package was rejected for quality reasons.  This
represents some regrouping and making another effort.

PyLucene 2.3.1 :: JCC 1.9 :: Ubuntu 8.04 :: AMD64 :: Python 2.5 :: Sun Java 1.6

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[pylucene-dev] debian / ubuntu jcc package

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/jcc_1.9-1.html#binary-jcc-contents

a) Which of these files should I prune from the package?

b) python -m jcc complains about not being able to find libjvm.so; I
assume I messed something up in the package to cause that, but am not
sure which part.
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[pylucene-dev] jcc setup.py LFLAGS

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
For packaging purposes, I'm planning to change jcc/setup.py as follows so that
autobuilders have fewer problems.  It means there are a couple extra paths for
the linker / dynamic loader to search, but I don't see this as a big deal.

Q1: I notice that rpath i386/AMD64 don't really match; one talks about client,
the other talks about a server subdirectory. Is this a simple oversight?

Q2: Maybe this should be considered for the office version of setup.py
after all ?

Jeff

===

LFLAGS = {
'darwin': ['-framework', 'JavaVM'],
'linux2': ['-L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386',
   '-L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64',
   '-ljava',
   ('-Wl,-rpath=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64:'
'/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64/server:'
'/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386:'
'/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/client')],
'sunos5': ['-L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386', '-ljava',
   ('-R/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386:'
'/usr/jdk/instances/jre/lib/i386/client')],
'win32': ['/LIBPATH:o:/Java/jdk1.6.0_02/lib', 'jvm.lib']
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feedback on jcc package, please

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Could I please get some feedback on the package jcc ? This is my first
time using cdbs.

http://www.jab.org/jcc/

Thanks,
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[Bug 194207] Re: arcmsr + archttp64 calls dma_free_coherent() with irqs disabled - dmesg filled with warnings

2008-03-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
have become unusable in 2.6.24.

Besides the annoying warning, what else goes wrong? (I recently reported
duplicate bug #197982)

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Re: [Bug 194207] Re: arcmsr + archttp64 calls dma_free_coherent() with irqs disabled - dmesg filled with warnings

2008-03-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
That's interesting; I only get the warning when I run the cli64 tool
to query drive status. Regular use of the SATA controller doesn't
trigger any warnings for me, no matter what the load. Probably the
difference is in how we are utilizing the Areca card; I'm just using
a simple passthrough mode and not actually invoking any of the
hardware RAID capabilities of the card.

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[Bug 197982] [NEW] dma warning in hardy kernel

2008-03-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Public bug reported:

I see this repeatedly in syslog

[ 4074.960149] WARNING: at 
/build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma_64.c:169 dma_free_coherent()
[ 4074.960152] Pid: 19831, comm: cli64 Not tainted 2.6.24-8-server #1
[ 4074.960153] 
[ 4074.960154] Call Trace:
[ 4074.960157]  [802144ca] dma_alloc_coherent+0x13a/0x200
[ 4074.960161]  [80214283] dma_free_coherent+0xa3/0xb0
[ 4074.960166]  [880f8540] :arcmsr:arcmsr_queue_command+0x890/0x9a0
[ 4074.960177]  [880c800c] :scsi_mod:scsi_dispatch_cmd+0x17c/0x2e0
[ 4074.960187]  [880ced75] :scsi_mod:scsi_request_fn+0x225/0x3d0
[ 4074.960191]  [8033bf72] blk_execute_rq_nowait+0x62/0xb0
[ 4074.960200]  [880ce644] :scsi_mod:scsi_execute_async+0x1f4/0x3e0
[ 4074.960208]  [881d34df] :sg:sg_common_write+0x18f/0x930
[ 4074.960212]  [881d3f50] :sg:sg_cmd_done+0x0/0x2c0
[ 4074.960216]  [80468070] thread_return+0x3a/0x59a
[ 4074.960222]  [881d3e4d] :sg:sg_new_write+0x1cd/0x2d0
[ 4074.960227]  [881d5c65] :sg:sg_ioctl+0x4c5/0xb60
[ 4074.960230]  [80468d59] do_nanosleep+0x69/0x90
[ 4074.960233]  [80257538] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x78/0x140
[ 4074.960236]  [802bd16d] do_ioctl+0x7d/0xa0
[ 4074.960240]  [802bd3b0] vfs_ioctl+0x220/0x2c0
[ 4074.960244]  [802bd4e1] sys_ioctl+0x91/0xb0
[ 4074.960247]  [8020c37e] system_call+0x7e/0x83


# cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.24-8-server ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 
4.2.3-1ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Thu Feb 14 20:42:20 UTC 2008

This is a hardy kernel on gutsy
# cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=gutsy
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 7.10

There's an Areca 1230 SATA controller in the system. To trigger the
warning, I can run the Areca command line utility cli64 which is some
presumably closed source RAID management tool. Or at least it was a
binary download. Running it and asking what disks are attached to the
controller rsf info triggers the warning.

I have no idea if this warning matters in the slightest, but thought it
best to report.

** Affects: ubuntu
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 198248] [NEW] cfdisk creates invalid (!) partion tables on disk

2008-03-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: util-linux

cfdisk is apparently putting bad info on disk, but poking 
the kernel correctly and directly when making large 
partitions. Everything looks fine until the first reboot. I
hear this is a known problem with parted, but want to let
you know cfdisk is also affected.

To reproduce:

a) Get a terabyte drive
b) Make a giant partition on it + mount (I formatted xfs)
c) Everything is happy happy joy joy
d) reboot
e) partition is gone! udev doesn't make a device, manually
running mknod doesn't help. Bad!
f) re-run cfdisk (which sees the partition) and write it again.
g) everything mounts happy happy ... at least for this boot cycle

# cat /etc/lsb-release 
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=gutsy
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 7.10

Running a hardy kernel

# cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.24-8-server ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 
4.2.3-1ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Thu Feb 14 20:42:20 UTC 2008

# apt-cache policy util-linux
util-linux:
  Installed: 2.13-8ubuntu1
  Candidate: 2.13-8ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 2.13-8ubuntu1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Thread is here with more details.

  http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2008-03/msg00030.html

** Affects: util-linux (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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Re: transferring RAID-1 drives via sneakernet

2008-02-14 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
I just finished the transfer and it went great. Thanks for all
the advice. I went with the assemble-by-uuid approach in
/etc/mdadm.conf which did very well. Especially since drive
letters danced around quite a bit between reboots. One of the
disks died during transit, and the redundancy part of RAID
earned its keep. The only thing I didn't figure out was SATA
hotplug. The SATA controller (an Areca 1230 in JBOD mode)
happily noticed when a drive was hotplugged into a port. But
Linux didn't seem to notice. I was using cfdisk to probe.
Is there a particular command needed to convince Linux to
look around and see if there are any new SATA devices?

Jeff
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Re: transferring RAID-1 drives via sneakernet

2008-02-12 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 It's not a RAID issue, but make sure you don't have any duplicate volume
 names.  According to Murphy's Law, if there are two / volumes, the wrong
 one will be chosen upon your next reboot.

Thanks for the tip. Since I'm not using volumes or LVM at all, I should be
safe from this particular problem.
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Re: transferring RAID-1 drives via sneakernet

2008-02-12 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 Does the new machine have a RAID array already?

Yes.. the new machine already has on RAID array.
After sneakernet it should have two RAID arrays. Is
there a gotcha?
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transferring RAID-1 drives via sneakernet

2008-02-11 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
I'm planning to take some RAID-1 drives out of an old machine
and plop them into a new machine. Hoping that mdadm assemble
will magically work. There's no reason it shouldn't work. Right?

old  [ mdadm v1.9.0 / kernel 2.6.17 / Debian Etch / x86-64 ]
new [ mdad v2.6.2 / kernel 2.6.22 / Ubuntu 7.10 server ]
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Re: Any inexpensive hardware recommendations for PCI interface cards?

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Does anyone recommend any inexpensive (probably SATA-II) PCI interface
cards?

See this message and surrounding thread from November 2007 on
the linux-ide list.

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Re: mdadm break / restore soft mirror

2007-12-14 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
So the obvious follow up question is: for this scenario does it make sense to
only resync the difference between the two bitmaps? E.g. Drive A will have
a current bitmap, B will have a stale bitmap. Presumably one could get away
with just resyncing the difference.

Or is this too much of special case to consider?

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Re: mdadm break / restore soft mirror

2007-12-14 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
On Dec 14, 2007 11:13 AM, Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So the obvious follow up question is: for this scenario does it make sense to
 only resync the difference between the two bitmaps?

Never mind, I see why this won't work.
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Re: mdadm break / restore soft mirror

2007-12-13 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 What you could do is set the number of devices in the array to 3 so
 they it always appears to be degraded, then rotate your backup drives
 through the array.  The number of dirty bits in the bitmap will
 steadily grow and so resyncs will take longer.  Once it crosses some
 threshold you set the array back to having 2 devices to that it looks
 non-degraded and clean the bitmap.  Then each device will need a full
 resync after which you will get away with partial resyncs for a while.

I don't undertand why clearing the bitmap causes a rebuild of
all devices. I think I have a conceptual misunderstanding.  Consider
a RAID-1 and three physical disks involved, A,B,C

1) A and B are in the RAID, everything is synced
2) Create a bitmap on the array
3) Fail + remove B
4) Hot add C, wait for C to sync
5) Fail + remove C
6) Hot add B, wait for B to resync
7) Goto step 3

I understand that after a while we might want to clean the bitmap
and that would trigger a full resync for drives B and C. I don't
understand why it would ever cause a resync for drive A.
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Re: mdadm break / restore soft mirror

2007-12-12 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Proposed solution is to use software raid mirror.  Before backup starts,
break the soft mirror unmount and backup partition

I use this method for backup once a week.

One challenge is drives aren't great at steaming data quickly (for the resync)
while also doing a lot of random access. Having a little extra redundancy (think
3 or more drives in the RAID-1) can really help.

If you can be certain that the device that you break out of the mirror
is never altered, then you could add an internal bitmap while the
array is split and the rebuild will go much faster.

Is this also a viable speedup for the kep rotating backup drives through
the array strategy? If so, how much speedup are we talking about? Assume
the array changes by 1% before a backup drive gets rotated in again.

Jeff
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unable to remove failed drive

2007-12-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
... and all access to array hangs indefinitely, resulting in unkillable zombie
processes. Have to hard reboot the machine. Any thoughts on the matter?

===

# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md1 : active raid1 sde1[6](F) sdg1[1] sdb1[4] sdd1[3] sdc1[2]
  488383936 blocks [6/4] [__]

unused devices: none

# mdadm --fail /dev/md1 /dev/sde1
mdadm: set /dev/sde1 faulty in /dev/md1

# mdadm --remove /dev/md1 /dev/sde1
mdadm: hot remove failed for /dev/sde1: Device or resource busy

# mdadm -D /dev/md1
/dev/md1:
Version : 00.90.03
  Creation Time : Sun Dec 25 16:12:34 2005
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB)
Device Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB)
   Raid Devices : 6
  Total Devices : 5
Preferred Minor : 1
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Fri Dec  7 11:37:46 2007
  State : active, degraded
 Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 4
 Failed Devices : 1
  Spare Devices : 0

   UUID : f3ee6aa3:2f1d5767:f443dfc0:c23e80af
 Events : 0.22331500

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   00-  removed
   1   8   971  active sync   /dev/sdg1
   2   8   332  active sync   /dev/sdc1
   3   8   493  active sync   /dev/sdd1
   4   8   174  active sync   /dev/sdb1
   5   00-  removed

   6   8   650  faulty   /dev/sde1


# dmesg
sd 4:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x802
sde: Current: sense key: Aborted Command
Additional sense: Scsi parity error
end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 594882271
raid1: sde1: rescheduling sector 594882208
ata5: command timeout
ata5: translated ATA stat/err 0xff/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00
ata5: status=0xff { Busy }
sd 4:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x802
sde: Current: sense key: Aborted Command
Additional sense: Scsi parity error
end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 528737607
raid1: sde1: rescheduling sector 528737544
ata5: command timeout
ata5: translated ATA stat/err 0xff/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00
ata5: status=0xff { Busy }
sd 4:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x802
sde: Current: sense key: Aborted Command
Additional sense: Scsi parity error
end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 814377071

[...]

md: cannot remove active disk sde1 from md1 ...
md: could not bd_claim sde1.
md: error, md_import_device() returned -16

# cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.17-2-amd64 (Debian 2.6.17-7) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 4.1.2 20060814 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-11)) #1 SMP Thu Aug
24 16:13:57 UTC 2006
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Re: stable basic 4-port SATA card

2007-11-14 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks for the excellent rundown.

sata_sil24: 3124/3132 chips don't have any outstanding serious
problems.  IRQ loss on PCI-X was the only recent serious known
problem but it's fixed now.

I'm still a little confused how to translate this known-good chipset to
an actual buyable PCI card.  It isn't obvious from basic web searching.
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stable basic 4-port SATA card

2007-11-13 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
I read with interest I. Straford's current trials and tribulations
with the Promise SATA300 TX4. Do people have a favorite
alternative to this card that plays well with Linux? I've read the
chipset compatibility list, but am not sure how to boil that
information down to an actual buyable SATA controller.

http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-ide@vger.kernel.org/msg12398.html
http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-11-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
but if you can trust yourself to generate them, consecutive
integers provide minimal, order-preserving, perfect hashing, too!

Hmm this sounds pretty sensible to me.

Jeff
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Accepted jhove 1.1g-5 (source all)

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:23:21 -0700
Source: jhove
Binary: jhove
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.1g-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jhove  - JSTOR/Harvard Object Validation Environment
Changes: 
 jhove (1.1g-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Switching to non-free
Files: 
 f85e69ea059511ffd5db70fdd4d37869 655 non-free/utils optional jhove_1.1g-5.dsc
 5a784bc6a9b8db24fa3bffd4db122ae0 1273205 non-free/utils optional 
jhove_1.1g.orig.tar.gz
 9432e2a38126ed0e4f6c17abfa9c6593 4508 non-free/utils optional 
jhove_1.1g-5.diff.gz
 048b46a9e7c1536bc6c3f3fe565ba6c1 1986036 non-free/utils optional 
jhove_1.1g-5_all.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFHFBPRazfo3TSzaFYRAnMUAJ9SSYitmJAnVFhweiQmQLThUdXIQACgozUJ
Mk+kWf1s7ommBwU4rYTbbE8=
=5rdt
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Accepted:
jhove_1.1g-5.diff.gz
  to pool/non-free/j/jhove/jhove_1.1g-5.diff.gz
jhove_1.1g-5.dsc
  to pool/non-free/j/jhove/jhove_1.1g-5.dsc
jhove_1.1g-5_all.deb
  to pool/non-free/j/jhove/jhove_1.1g-5_all.deb
jhove_1.1g.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/non-free/j/jhove/jhove_1.1g.orig.tar.gz


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Re: Slight change in address for my mailing list

2007-10-23 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Hi Terrence,

The domain for the mailing list is lists.metaperl.com, not metaperl.com.

Sure, I think we can help you out. Let's move this to the customer
service address instead of using gossip. By the way, you've got an
X-No-Archive: yes header in your new setup, which is preventing
archiving. Please take care of that first.

Cheers,
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[bug #20142] strip backslash in rfc822 From: field

2007-10-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #5, bug #20142 (project mhonarc):

--- /var/tmp/mhutil.pl  2007-10-09 20:30:36.0 -0700
+++ /usr/share/mhonarc/mhutil.pl2007-10-09 21:32:05.0 -0700
@@ -176,7 +176,8 @@
 foreach $tok (@tokens) {
next  if $skip;
if ($tok =~ /^/) {   # Quoted string
   $tok =~ s/^//;  $tok =~ s/$//; 
+   $tok =~ s/\(.)/$1/g; $tok =~ s/\//g;
return $tok;
}
if ($tok =~ /^(/) {  # Comment


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Re: [bug #20142] strip backslash in rfc822 From: field

2007-10-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Here's an unmangled copy of the patch. I think this works,
but the \ part acts a little weird during testing.  (E.g. if I
run -editidx I can fix an index page, but I can't seem to break it
again if I change the code back)

-Jeff

# diff -u /var/tmp/mhutil.pl /usr/share/mhonarc/mhutil.pl
--- /var/tmp/mhutil.pl  2007-10-09 20:30:36.0 -0700
+++ /usr/share/mhonarc/mhutil.pl2007-10-09 22:05:59.0 -0700
@@ -177,6 +177,7 @@
next  if $skip;
if ($tok =~ /^/) {   # Quoted string
$tok =~ s/^//;  $tok =~ s/$//;
+$tok =~ s/\\(.)/$1/g;  $tok =~ s/\\\/\/g;
return $tok;
}
if ($tok =~ /^\(/) {  # Comment

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Re: [bug #20142] strip backslash in rfc822 From: field

2007-10-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Ah, now I understand. This is the right patch.

# diff -u /var/tmp/mhutil.pl /usr/share/mhonarc/mhutil.pl
--- /var/tmp/mhutil.pl  2007-10-09 20:30:36.0 -0700
+++ /usr/share/mhonarc/mhutil.pl2007-10-09 22:05:59.0 -0700
@@ -177,6 +177,7 @@
- Hide quoted text -
   next  if $skip;
   if ($tok =~ /^/) {   # Quoted string
   $tok =~ s/^//;  $tok =~ s/$//;
+$tok =~ s/\\(.)/$1/g;
   return $tok;
   }
   if ($tok =~ /^\(/) {  # Comment

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Accepted perceptualdiff 1.0.1-1 (source i386)

2007-10-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:52:18 -0700
Source: perceptualdiff
Binary: perceptualdiff
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 perceptualdiff - perceptual image comparison tool
Changes: 
 perceptualdiff (1.0.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial release
Files: 
 f1085ac58d721a3693d08bcb67d430e7 637 utils optional perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.dsc
 2f7d90f478036bb2184663e56e8b1d3b 32344 utils optional 
perceptualdiff_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz
 7b1fa4a934a890563e06158bb38a7c88 13146 utils optional 
perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.diff.gz
 93122cf89a67a4c9521f627b2d304f2e 14598 utils optional 
perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1_i386.deb

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFG/aWvazfo3TSzaFYRAlmtAJsHHm2OAmY3/wTSggTFf3iOrtDbGgCgjm36
2riSbXHBVgnOHXmu8MgeKc8=
=zUxd
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Accepted:
perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/p/perceptualdiff/perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.diff.gz
perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/p/perceptualdiff/perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1.dsc
perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/p/perceptualdiff/perceptualdiff_1.0.1-1_i386.deb
perceptualdiff_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/p/perceptualdiff/perceptualdiff_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-10-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Question: what about crossposted messages?

Let's say a message gets sent to a list called mailman-developers
with a CC to a list called pet-bunnies. Hypothetically, of course.
Presumably, the person who got the message from pet-bunnies
should probably end up at the pet-bunnies archive, where the
message can be viewed in proper context; right before the
processed carrots flamewar and after the manifesto on proper
hopping technique. To make that work, I think we need some
way to - at least optionally - allow one or more of the RFC 2369
headers to influence the archival URL. Reading the wiki, I guess
that's where List-Archive comes into play?

My other question is about the angle brackets. Barry, why are
you inclined to include them in calculations? It's kind of arbitrary,
but quoting RFC 2822, end of section 3.6.4:

   Semantically, the angle bracket characters are not part of the
   msg-id; the msg-id is what is contained between the two angle bracket
   characters.
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sleepy, minor request for help

2007-09-25 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Hi all,

I messed up the file permissions when uploading a
new package (jhove) to ftp-master, leading to package
rejection.

And I am too tired right now to go through the gpg-erific
file deletion procedure to try again tonight. If there is a
DD who has energy and is willing to complete the upload, I'd
appreciate it. Otherwise I'll tackle this again some time
tomorrow. Pointers below to the signed package and the
unhappy file on ftp-master.

Jeff


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The file with bad read permissions:

ftp://ftp-master.debian.org//pub/UploadQueuejhove_1.1g.orig.tar.gz/jhove_1.1g.orig.tar.gz

The already signed package:

http://www.jab.org/jhove

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Re: Joining pkg-java, and some package review requests

2007-09-06 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Varun, good to hear from you again. Welcome.

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new feature: hints

2007-08-26 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Remember the info pages?

http://www.mail-archive.com/petbunny%40lsv.uky.edu/info.html

If you squint carefully, you can see a new field called hints. So
what's a hint? Hints are gentle way to tell the world what a list
is about.

Let's say you have a mailing list about pet bunnies.  Then you add
a hint called pet bunnies.  This will make it a little easier for
pet bunny lovers to find the archive. It will also help target any
advertisements for things like carrots instead of linux kernel
hacking jobs. And maybe other good uses in the future. Hints are
optional, but please try it out if you get a chance.

A good hint is one that you could type into a global search
engine, and would be happy to see the list archive as a result.
So pet bunnies is a good hint, Mr. Snuggles is having a pwarty!
is not so good. By the way, you now know my favorite list archive
of all time.

I currently have the hints set to be world editable (except for a
few I've personally set by hand) and we'll see how that works out.
If there is a spam problem we'll do something different.

Have fun,
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[bug #18113] inconsistant thread slices w/ poor man's windowing

2007-08-12 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #3, bug #18113 (project mhonarc):

I ran on a handful of list messages (10 of them) and added
them to a mhonarc archive one at a time, with MAXSIZE
set to 3. This version preserved the thread slices, while
2.6.16 pretty much clobbered the thread slices.

Looks good to me.

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[bug #20142] strip backslash in rfc822 From: field

2007-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #4, bug #20142 (project mhonarc):

I've placed a sample of raw messages at the following location. It is
encrypted to the mhonarc signing key and is representative of production
traffic. Maybe the size is a little bit of overkill for this particular
problem, but the dataset might be useful for other
problem cases as well. Once the dataset is received, yell and I'll delete it.
To find relevent messages in this dataset, use the grep command described in
one of the other comments.

  http://www.mail-archive.com/mail-sample.bz2.gpg

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-08-07 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 What we really want to know is how many (non-empty) Message-ID
 collisions are there that *don't* share a Date?  This is the number of
 messages that only-messageid loses, and that the composite identifier
 method would not lose.

I took a look at a larger dataset, 5.85 million messages from several
thousand lists. Of the messages that share message-id but not date,
most come from a small number of based web services.

  875 come from forums.slimdevices.com
  378 come from lists.openplans.org
  265 come from nabble.com
  164 come from egroups.com
  135 come from yahoo.com
  166 come from elsewhere

That's 0.03% if you count all the messages. It is 0.008% if you
discard the top three offenders, all of which I have contacted.
I didn't try contacting Yahoo/eGroups because in my past
experience, talking to a brick wall is easier. I have not analyzed
how many of these messages are spam or have duplicate bodies,
which further discounts the percentages.

Hope this data helps.
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-08-01 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 704 messages fall into this category. Of these, 596 come from a
 single (malfunctioning and duplicate spewing) list server. I have
 not yet examined the remaining 208 messages, but I'll bet anything
 many also have duplicate message bodies. Or are spam. So for this
 data set, we have an upper bound of 0.01% messages in this
 category, possibly significantly less.

Correction.

... remaining 108 ... 0.005% ...
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-08-01 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 What we really want to know is how many (non-empty) Message-ID
 collisions are there that *don't* share a Date?  This is the number of
 messages that only-messageid loses, and that the composite identifier
 method would not lose.

It took longer than expected, but I now have numbers from
looking at 2,151,896 messages spread over a few thousand
lists. The appended script was run over a set of MH format
raw messages.

704 messages fall into this category. Of these, 596 come from a
single (malfunctioning and duplicate spewing) list server. I have
not yet examined the remaining 208 messages, but I'll bet anything
many also have duplicate message bodies. Or are spam. So for this
data set, we have an upper bound of 0.01% messages in this
category, possibly significantly less.

Jeff


#!/bin/bash
#
# Look for messages that
#
# Do collide with message-id
# Don't collide with message-id + date

DIR=/home/archive/Mail

C1=0
C2=0

get_ineresting_messages() {
cd $DIR/$1
for j in $(ls -U); do
MSG_ID=$(cat $j | 822field message-id)
MSG_DATE=$(cat $j | 822field date)
if [ $MSG_ID !=  ]; then
echo $MSG_DATE | $MSG_ID
fi
done |\
sort |\
uniq --separator='|' --skip-fields=1 --all-repeated |\
uniq --uniq
}


for i in $(ls $DIR | grep @); do
DUP=$(get_ineresting_messages $i)
DUP_CNT=$(echo -n $DUP | wc -l)
MSG_CNT=$(cd $DIR/$i  ls -U | wc -w)
C1=$(( C1 + MSG_CNT ))
C2=$(( C2 + DUP_CNT ))
if [ $DUP_CNT != 0 ]; then
echo
echo === collisions/messages: $C2/$C1 $i
echo $DUP
else
echo -n . 12
fi
done









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[bug #20142] strip backslash in rfc822 From: field

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #2, bug #20142 (project mhonarc):

This is super useful, and really comes into play for us on $FROMNAME$. 

Everything else can essentially stay the same. In particular, $SUBJECT$ will
quite often have unescaped backslashes, for example, a message talking about
Windows software might contain C:Progam Fileswhatever

So I admit a hack to fix ( )  on $FROMNAME$ isn't pretty, but it would be
super useful and if I had a pointer on where to insert it, I'd be happy to
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[bug #18113] inconsistant thread slices w/ poor man's windowing

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #18113 (project mhonarc):

I wonder how hard this is.

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[bug #19142] Right-to-left paragraphs not aligned to the right

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #19142 (project mhonarc):

I'm interested in right-to-left as well, but how would the
parser detect that the paragraph is RTL? Is the only way to
do this by analyzing the character set or are there other
indicators? 

And if it is by character set, can web browsers be set to
do this automatically (or through use of a special CSS file?)

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[bug #17563] mhonarc trashes malformed HTML

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #17563 (project mhonarc):

We don't bother with HTML mail any more when there's any choice in the
matter, so not so important to us.

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[bug #18112] SPAMMODE produces broken links

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Follow-up Comment #2, bug #18112 (project mhonarc):

The work around for this is - for us - is to detect and kill off this type of
broken at serving time. So not so critical from my perspective.

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Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Soul shooter - Aptrgangr : please revert it

2007-07-28 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-26 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 If you improve the script or find numbers that lead to different
 conclusions, now's the time to know!

Live and learn!

So I just looked at 2 million raw messages from 2007, spread over
a few thousand mailing lists (all data is from mail-archive.com). My
first question was - when comparing only with messages from the
same list - how many times do I see a repeated message-id? The
answer was ... drumroll please ... 260 thousand. What the hell?

Time for a closer look. In some cases, the archiver was getting two
copies of every message. For example, the MLM (mailman) was
sending out a message to subscriber A and subscriber B, and both
paths eventually lead to the archiver.

In another case, the MLM (YahooGroups) spammed 20 copies of the
same message to every subscriber, and modified the body of each one.
YahooGroups tends create HTML mail and sticks ads, possibly spyware,
and who knows what other crap in message footers.

There's probably other categories I haven't noticed yet, 260k messages
is a lot of checking. So you'd think the archives would be a complete
mess. But they aren't and I had no idea anything was remotely amiss
under the hood. That's because mhonarc only archives one message
per message-id. So those 19 repeats from YahooGroups get thown away.
This is actually a pretty robust strategy when you think about it; it keeps
lots of annoyances out of archives and everyone who gets smited
deserves it; accidental duplicates, malicious duplicates, broken mail
transfer agents. Reasonable people can disagree, but I like it.

So I'm amending my request. If mailman and pipermail++ want to
keep a verbatim record of everything passing through the MLM, fine.
But please make it also possible to interoperate with archivers that
use the looser mhonarc strategy, e.g. allow the interoperability URL
to collide when message-ids collide. Currently Stephen's proposal
allows this, Barry's does not.

Just to make things really concrete, here's an example from that
YahooGroups collision I was describing. The 20 messages spammed to
subscribers would all have a interoperability URL something like this
(but perhaps not quite so enormously long) embedded in the
message, in both headers and possibly a footer.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=estika%40yahoogroups.comq=3578.125.161.129.196.1175036508.CBNWebMail%40webmail1.cbn.net.id

Clicking on it, the user goes to the archive server. For this particular
archiver, an HTTP 302 redirect takes the user to another URL which
happens to be more human friendly. But the details of what alternate
URLs are available - if any - is really up to the archive server.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01341.html

I think that's about it. I do kind of like Stephen's suggestion of
allowing the archiver to supply a formuia for interoperability URL;
if that's the case I'd say the RFC2369 headers could be fair game
for use in the calculation. That allows cross posted messages to
easily link to their correct archive - note how I used the contents of
List-Post when creating the interoperability URL above.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-26 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 If you are relying on the sender to do the right thing, then
 why not force them to create proper message-ids?

I think Barry's proposal is essentially a numbers game - e.g.
he's hoping for significantly better results using Date in
the calculation than not using it.

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Stable+URLs

I'll try to tease out some more useful stats from some large
datasets this weekend. (I can't just run the python scripts as is
because I don't have python 2.5 in the same place as the data,
I don't keep raw message in mbox format, blah blah blah, but
we'll figure it out).

My hypothesis is Date doesn't really buy much, but that's
in part because I have a vested interest in that outcome.
We'll see how the data plays out. And I still think RFC2369
headers are needed in the calculation if cross posted
messages are to be handled correctly.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 Notice that of 325146 total messages, 624 of them had no message-id
 header.  Even if you aggregate dup+col, you're still looking at a
 total duplicate rate of 0.29%.

Message ID's are supposed to be unique. This is discussed in
in RFC 822: 4.6.1 and RFC 1036: 2.1.5, and probably other places.
If that's not the case, the mail transfer agent is broken. I think it's
better to go ahead and use the mesage-id, rather than concoct
yet another this time we mean it! unique identifier. This is a
cost/benefit thing; the cost is some real world collisions, the benefit
is a conceptually simpler system. Conceptually simpler things are
good especially when implemented all over the place.

Which brings me to suggestion #2, which is go ahead and write
an RFC on how list servers should embed archival links in messages.
This sounds like an internet wide interoperability issue as much as
something mailman specific. Why not come up with a scheme usable
by all list servers? And also describe a specification third party archival
services can comply to. Besides, I've always wanted to help write
an RFC. If we go that route, it would be good to get input from a range
of people - one person I'd suggest is Earl Hood, author of mhonarc.

Thoughts?

Jeff





 While I'm almost tempted to ignore a
 hit rate that low, if you think of an archive holding 1B messages,
 you still get a lot of duplicates.

 OTOH, the rate goes down even lower if you consider the message-id
 and date headers.  (Note, I did not consider messages missing a date
 header).  How likely is it that two messages with the same message-id
 and date are /not/ duplicates?  Heck, at that point, I'd feel
 justified in simply automatically rejecting the duplicate and
 chucking it from the archive.

 I spent a /little/ time looking at the physical messages that ended
 up as true collisions.  Though by no means did I look at them all,
 they all looked related.  For example, with strategy 2 some messages
 look like they'd been inadvertently sent before they were completed.
 I need to see if there's any similarities in MUA behind these, but
 again, I think we might be able to safely assume that collisions on
 message-id+date can be ignored.

 That leads me to the following proposal, which is just an elaboration
 on Stephen's. First, all messages live in the same namespace; they
 are not divided by target mailing list.  Each message has two
 addresses, one is the Message-ID and one is the base32 of the sha1
 hash of the Message-ID + Date.  As Stephen proposes, Mailman would
 add these headers if an incoming message is missing them, and tough
 luck for the non-list copy.  The nice thing is that RFC 2822 requires
 the Date header and states that Message-ID SHOULD be present.

 Why the second address?  First, it provides as close to a guaranteed
 unique identifier as we can expect, and second because it produces a
 nearly human readable format.  For example, Stephen's OP would have a
 second address of

   mid
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   date
 'Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:49:58 +0900'
   # XXX perhaps strip off angle brackets
   h = hashlib.sha1(mid)
   h.update(date)
   base64.b32encode(h.digest())
 'RXTJ357KFOTJP3NFJA6KMO65X7VQOHJI'

 I like base32 instead of base64 because the more limited alphabet
 should produce less ambiguous strings in certain fonts and I don't
 think the short b64 strings are short enough to justify the
 punctuation characters that would result.  While RFC 3548 specifies
 the b32 alphabet as using uppercase characters, I think any service
 that accepts b32 ids should be case insensitive.  A really Postel-y
 service could even accept '1' for 'I' and '0' for 'O' just to make it
 more resilient to human communication errors.

 I'd like to come up with a good name for this second address, which
 would suggest the name of the X- header we stash this value in.  X-
 B32-Message-ID isn't very sexy.  Maybe X-Message-Global-ID, since I
 think there's a reasonable argument to make that for well-behaved
 messages, that's exactly what this is.

 So now, think of the interface to a message store that supports this
 addressing scheme.  Well it's something like:

 class MessageStore(Interface):
  def store_message(message):
  Store the message.

  :raises ValueError: when the message is missing either the
 Message-ID
  header or a Date header.
  :raises DuplicateMessageError: when a message in the store
 already has
  a matching Message-ID and Date.  An archive is free to raise
 this exception
  for duplicate Message-IDs alone.
  

  def get_message_by_global_id(key):
  Locate and return the message from the store that matches
 `key`.

  :param key: The Global ID of the message to locate.  This is
 the
  base32 encoded SHA1 hash of the message's Message-ID and Date
  headers.
  :returns: The message object matching the Global ID, or None
 if there
  is no such match.
  

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
There are three different parties coming to the table. One is
the mail transfer agent of the sender, another is the list server,
and the third is the archive server. Ideally, all three will be happy
campers.

So we just specify a header to put it in, and subscribers will be able
to use it, per definition of a canonical URL.

It is the archive server's job to decide what is the canonical URL
for a message. There's a good chance these archival URLs will be
served by an HTTP redirect. So let's not use the word canonical. :)

What complexity?  Mailman just does

  msg['X-List-Archive-Received-ID'] = Email.msgid()

Easy to introduce, harder to deal with. The archival server would now
keep track of both the message-id and the x-list-archive-received-id.
That's two namespaces that almost do the same thing. It's easier
for the archive server to keep track of one name space than two,
and - most importantly - conceptually simpler.

From the perspective of the assorted list servers, it's easier to
do nothing than to do something. So if they can get by with
just message-id (which is already implemented) not have to add
x-list-archive-received-id, that's a smoother implementation path.
If we base on message-id, archival servers will be able to
retroactively add support for all their stored messages, even those
that are ten years old. And users holding an old message will be
able to figure out that URL without doing any computational
gymnastics.

Put another way, there's the possibility to reduce the archive
servers' implementation to search for this mesage-id which is
something really useful to have anyway, and therefore likely to
get wider support.

In addition, Barry was talking about concocting a unique
identifier from the Date field and Message-ID. I'm not a big fan of
this idea, because the date field comes from the mail user agent
and is often wildly corrupt; e;g; coming from 100 years in the future.
Very painful if the archive is showing most recent message first.
Therefore an archival server is very likely to determine message date
from the most recent received header (generally from a trusted mail
transfer agent) rather than the date field. From the archive server's
perspective, the best thing to do with the date field is throw it away.

So for these reasons, I'd rather stick with message-id and risk
some real world collisions, instead of introduce another identifier.
If the list server receives a message with no message-id, by all means
create one on the spot.  To me, this feels like the sweet spot in terms
of cost benefit. The main thing that bugs me is message-ids are long,
which makes them awkward to embed in a URL in the footer of a
message.

Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 Regardless of whether we *need* to generate our own unique ID, I'm
 leaning towards the thought that we're going to *want* to generate
 our own for usability reasons.  In a perfect world, i think we'd have
 a sequence number so I could visit http://example.com/mailman/
 archives/listname/204.html and know that 205.html would be the next
 message to that list, but any short unique id would do if sequence
 numbers are too much of a pain.

I agree there's a lot of usability benefits from short URLs, but perhaps
this is the job of the archive server, and not the list server. Mharc (an
archive server) is a great example here. Mharc's canonical message
format is pretty human friendly.

http://ww.mhonarc.org/archive/html/mharc-users/2002-08/msg0.html

Unfortunately, there's no trivial way for the list server to know that human
friendly URL when the message is sent out. Fortunately, Mharc is also
happy handles messages by message-id, which the list server does know
about.

http://www.mhonarc.org/archive/cgi-bin/mesg.cgi?a=mharc-users[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Had I been the implementer, I'd probably have made mharc do an HTTP 302
redirect from the longer URL to the shorter URL. But that's besides the point.
The point is we have an existing, working, happy archival server, and it would
be really nice if list servers (such as mailman) were compatible. And by
compatible, I mean offering the capability of embedding an archival URL in the
footers of messages.

-Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
 What you gain from my proposal over a pure Message-ID approach
 is guaranteed uniqueness given the list copy

Guarantee is a pretty strong word. A malicious person could post two
messages with the same message-id, same date, but different bodies.
Sometimes the channel between the MLM and the archive server will
be SMTP, and spurious messages can be injected. Finally, from the archive
server's perspective, some of the MLMs might make mistakes - just like
from the MLM's perspective, some of MTAs might make mistakes in
setting message-id. So I don't think the proposed SHA1(date, message-id)
scheme buys a hard guarantee of uniqueness. Every component has
to protect themselves, but none can solve the world's problems.

So that moves us to how many collisions are reduced in practice.
I have a question about the numbers Barry mined from the python
lists. Are the collisions really that high? One should not count
messages without a message-id, because the MLM can and should
create one in that case.

One should also not count collisions of messages going to different
lists. Here's why. Let's say message M is cross posted to lists L1 and
L2. Even though it is the same message, there are now two different
contexts. (For example, people visit M at archive L1 should get a
completely different experience if they hit next message and people
visiting M at archive L2.)

So I'd be curious what the collision numbers come to with these two
factors taken into account. The other takeaway  is list name really
should be part of the URL to get proper context. The earlier example
from Mharc does this.

 and human friendlier urls.

That's a very compelling point.

SHA1 can't be computed inside someone's head or simple cut-n-pasted
together for old messages,  but I think the usability benefits of short
URLs (short enough that they can comfortably fit inside message bodies)
outweighs this drawback. By the way, is SHA-1 still in favor? My
impression was it was fading away after the Shandong University team
partially cracked it.

 Throw it away or hide [Date]?  The former would be a problem,
 but not the latter.

Thrown away. My favorite archival service is based on mhonarc,
and raw mail goes into offline cold storage. Of course this can be
changed for the future messages with some pain, but there's no
reasonable way for myself (or any other mhonarc users in the
same predicament) to retrofit against Date based URLs. For the
record, here's what mhonarc embeds in each HTML page it
produces because these were considered the important headers.
In this message sent from Australia, the date shows a timezone
of UTC -0700, because it was pulled from the received header.

!-- MHonArc v2.6.15 --
!--X-Subject: [Gossip] Re: green#45;travel resources {webliographies} --
!--X-From-R13: [nephf Z. Saqvpbgg zraqvpbgNlnubb.pbz --
!--X-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:27:27 #45;0700 --
!--X-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --
!--X-Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
!--X-Head-End--

So my main request is to double check the numbers, see if using
Date really buys as much as one thinks. I'll keep digesting the
other aspects of the wiki page.
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change of pace

2007-07-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

As you may know, The Mail Archive has been an advertising supported
service for several years now. We have recently decided to shift things
around a bit.  We are completely removing advertising for regulars.
This includes list admins, list members and lurkers - anyone that uses
The Mail Archive directly.  We'll keep and experiment with advertising
only on pages viewed by fly by visitors that show up from off-site
searches.  We think this will improve the experience for all of you, and
for all of your mailing list's readers.  Note that this means you should be
seeing The Mail Archive ad-free automatically now.

The idea is to enhance usability for people more deeply involved with lists,
with the costs covered by those remaining folks who likely don't care as
much. Are people generally happy with the idea? Any comments or
questions?

Cheers,
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Maybe a way to think about this is that the canonical url is based on
the message-id, but then there's some way to distill even this down
to a tinyurl or simple integer that would be stable in the face of
full archive regenerations.

I'd suggest the reverse. Keep the canoncical archive URL short and
sweet, and then use a URL redirection service to map message-id's
to those URLs. It is the archiver's job to make it all work. For example,
the canonical  archive URL might stay exactly the way it is in pipermail.
But the archival link embedded in the message would instead go
to a redirection service.

http://mail.codeit.com/pipermail/zcommerce/2002-February/000523.html
http://mail.codeit.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The one other thing I'd ike to revisit is integration with third party
archival services. There are two obvious integration points; one is a
button in the Mailman list admin user interface that says archive with
service X not unlike the setting in Firefox that basically says search
with service X. The other integration point is the archival link
discussed above. In which case it would be set to something like.

http://third-party-service/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Disclosure: I help run a third party archiving service, and this topic was
discussed quite a bit previously.  [1] Nonetheless it seems like a good
time revisit given the current discussion about archive wishlists.

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg08772.html
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-04 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
In which case [the message body link] would be set to something like.

http://third-party-service/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just for fun, I did a trial implementation. It works, but the URLs are
too long.
For example, the URL below spends 59 characters on the messag-id, and
27 characters on the listname. We're  already over my comfort level (of
about 72 characters) and haven't even started to count the hostname, and
other URL-lengthening overhead. Maybe this was a bad idea after all.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mailman-developers%40python.org[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

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Re: [bug #20252] [gnu.org #336933] RFC2047 header encoding bug

2007-06-26 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

[ -savannah because I am lazy ]

Ok, well we do have proof that mhonarc is capable of doing the right thing
on the exact same message. I use the TEXTENCODE resource to send
everything to UTF-8, which is probably the recommended mhonarc way of
doing things these days anyway.

http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/textencode.html
http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/rcfileexs/utf-8-encode.mrc.html

So while one could dive in deep and try to figure out what is going on,
another choice is just try TEXTENCODE and see if it all magically
works. And if so, tell the bug tracking system. If that doesn't do the
trick, I don't know what to say other than works for me.

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Re: [bug #20252] [gnu.org #336933] RFC2047 header encoding bug

2007-06-26 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

I don't have a mhonarc install to test it.  Is it possible to install and
process a single message right-away without setting up MTA integration, etc?


Yes.

As a side note #1 I have the names of 564 gnu.org
and nongnu.org mailing lists that have been hand
checked and determined to be completely overrun
by spam.  Is there anyone at the FSF I should give
these to?

Side note #2 is mail-archive.com has kept secondary
archives for FSF lists with permission for some time now.
If it was helpful, we'd be happy to add FSF branding to
those archives and swap primary/secondary roles with
the FSF maintained archives.

Cheers,
Jeff

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Bug#424471:

2007-06-23 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Rmic has apparently drifted in and out of kaffe/GNU classpath over
time. I say we just wait for GPL Sun Java and fix it then. Or punt the
Lucene package for Lucene2 if dependencies allow it, and Lucene2 gets
into main (again, depending on GPL Sun Java)


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Bug#424471:

2007-06-23 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Rmic has apparently drifted in and out of kaffe/GNU classpath over
time. I say we just wait for GPL Sun Java and fix it then. Or punt the
Lucene package for Lucene2 if dependencies allow it, and Lucene2 gets
into main (again, depending on GPL Sun Java)


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Bug#424471:

2007-06-23 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Rmic has apparently drifted in and out of kaffe/GNU classpath over
time. I say we just wait for GPL Sun Java and fix it then. Or punt the
Lucene package for Lucene2 if dependencies allow it, and Lucene2 gets
into main (again, depending on GPL Sun Java)


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Accepted leptonlib 1.45-1 (source i386)

2007-06-01 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2007 13:59:43 -0700
Source: leptonlib
Binary: libleptonica leptonica-progs libleptonica-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.45-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 leptonica-progs - sample programs for Leptonica image processing library
 libleptonica - image processing library
 libleptonica-dev - image processing library
Changes: 
 leptonlib (1.45-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
Files: 
 9daf6949f8ab2f2d92b605f7eac37bfa 646 graphics optional leptonlib_1.45-1.dsc
 20e47724dcfd6a3933695e41a78cc9bc 2889746 graphics optional 
leptonlib_1.45.orig.tar.gz
 997d9193d83eed7526c3fa86bbc0bf23 5691 graphics optional 
leptonlib_1.45-1.diff.gz
 6d9adc4bcd619f11ef37732ac18fba0f 516794 libdevel optional 
libleptonica-dev_1.45-1_i386.deb
 75f3f5863b3dc594cb0c6dff66cccf31 333764 libs optional 
libleptonica_1.45-1_i386.deb
 8ef045a294e05a05c6bfc66b0683a708 61248 graphics optional 
leptonica-progs_1.45-1_i386.deb

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Accepted:
leptonica-progs_1.45-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonica-progs_1.45-1_i386.deb
leptonlib_1.45-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.45-1.diff.gz
leptonlib_1.45-1.dsc
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.45-1.dsc
leptonlib_1.45.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.45.orig.tar.gz
libleptonica-dev_1.45-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica-dev_1.45-1_i386.deb
libleptonica_1.45-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica_1.45-1_i386.deb


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Accepted leptonlib 1.45-2 (source i386)

2007-06-01 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2007 15:56:49 -0700
Source: leptonlib
Binary: libleptonica leptonica-progs libleptonica-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.45-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 leptonica-progs - sample programs for Leptonica image processing library
 libleptonica - image processing library
 libleptonica-dev - image processing library
Changes: 
 leptonlib (1.45-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add sample images
Files: 
 c36470bb9ca5350b032aad5cd629e82d 579 graphics optional leptonlib_1.45-2.dsc
 ea9d36e1e5db3b15bff26fd1913d2f01 2885649 graphics optional 
leptonlib_1.45-2.tar.gz
 9d0b0686c615c0a62ea4595c0d4e7596 719874 libdevel optional 
libleptonica-dev_1.45-2_i386.deb
 411a5afcbef4c43c7193a80b3b02c3fc 333800 libs optional 
libleptonica_1.45-2_i386.deb
 afaf55a750ed0408c9e613b434505d6f 61278 graphics optional 
leptonica-progs_1.45-2_i386.deb

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Accepted:
leptonica-progs_1.45-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonica-progs_1.45-2_i386.deb
leptonlib_1.45-2.dsc
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.45-2.dsc
leptonlib_1.45-2.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/leptonlib_1.45-2.tar.gz
libleptonica-dev_1.45-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica-dev_1.45-2_i386.deb
libleptonica_1.45-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/leptonlib/libleptonica_1.45-2_i386.deb


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armel disk image

2007-05-27 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

On 4/26/07, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-10 22:53]:
 Yes, yes, please put up a nslu2 disk image!!  I want to see if I can get
 a working debian Install.

 My spare nslu2 accidentally got left in a remote datacenter.
 So it will be some time before I can actually do this. Maybe
 someone else will oblige in the meantime.

I have done this now: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/unpack.html


Ok, I made one too, which has a few less steps than Martin's version at
the cost of some flexibility. Here's the completely untested recipe.

1 Get an nlsu2
2 Get a fast, reliable 2GB flash drive (I used Corsair Flash Voyager GT)
3 Get a Debian or Ubuntu desktop computer
4 apt-get install dd_rescue upslug2
5 Download armel-2gb.img.gz
6 Download armel-firmware.bin
7 Image the flash drive using your desktop computer
  a Figure out where the drive is; in this example /dev/sde
  b Double check you aren't about to toast your hard drive
  c zcat armel-2gb.img.gz | dd_rescue - /dev/sde
8 Put nslu2 in firmware upload mode
9 upslug2 -i armel-firmware.bin

That's it. Combine the flashdrive and the nslu2 and it should boot
to DHCP networking. The root password is changeme, and you
should probably adjust your timezone (tzconfig) and make a user
account.

Now I need three things - help.

1) A website to post armel-2gb.img.gz. This is presumably contaminated
with the proprietary network driver, so it should be behind one of those
stupid click-through license agreements. There's already similar armel
stuff at http://www.slug-firmware.net - can someone with a connection
there help me? This is a ~150MB file.

2) I don't actually know how to pull off the firmware currently flashed
to the nslu2. That means I don't have a copy of armel-firmware.bin
mentioned in the instructions. How do I do that? I presumably would
dump a copy of this on the same website as the armel-2gb.img.gz.
Although if it isn't contaminated by the proprietary ethernet driver, I can
easily find a home for it. (Joey: is it contaminated or not?)

3) I should put these instructions on a wiki or something so that users
can make notes when or if they run into problems. Can some existing
Linux / Debian / NSLU provide a wiki page I can edit? I don't really
want to run my own wiki.


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Re: armel disk image

2007-05-27 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Intel proprietary microcode for the on-chip NPE engines


Any chance of Intel opening up the microcode?


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Re: success report, armel on nslu2

2007-04-27 Thread Jeff Breidenbach

Cool! But that's still a fair number of steps. Why not create
nslu2.img and write it to the disk with dd? My nslu2 is still
stranded in a datacenter cabinet in Fremont, so I can't try it
myself and find out why it doesn't work.

Jeff

On 4/26/07, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Jeff Breidenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-10 22:53]:
 Yes, yes, please put up a nslu2 disk image!!  I want to see if I can get
 a working debian Install.

 My spare nslu2 accidentally got left in a remote datacenter.
 So it will be some time before I can actually do this. Maybe
 someone else will oblige in the meantime.

I have done this now: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/unpack.html

If someone could check my instructions, I'd appreciate it.  It's
possible I forgot to mention something.
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