Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 18:06:47 +0530 > From: Rahul Paknikar As Sumanto mentioned, we have been using KiCad for the eSim EDA tool for several years. During these years, we made a library of ~1000 schematics designed in KiCad's latest version (v4.0.7) at that time.[snip] We take this opportunity to request your suggestions on feasible ways to port these circuit schematics to KiCad 5 or 6. First step is make sure you have good backups of the schematics and the part libraries. I would include having up-to-date printouts so you can easily refer to them when checking the schematics in the latest version of KiCad. Don't uninstall the old program when you install the new one. Be prepared to do some work on the updated schematics. Even for standard parts some of the schematic symbols changed. In updating one of my old schematics I found the resistor symbol had changed. It was smaller so the wires needed to be extended one grid square on each end to reconnect all the R in my schematics. I have also found the automatic remapping process hasn't always worked that well. I have several schematics where all the parts used are all linked to a rescue library because the automatic remapping process wasn't even able to find basic items like standard R and C symbols. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/35092870-11d2-7b77-8979-c29802d66779%40ve3syb.ca.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
On 11/3/22 02:14 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > you won't have access to the footprints you had previously used. You can make a project-local library and export the old footprints to it if desired. I think that is a reasonable workflow. That works well. Thanks. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/dcf6383c-3697-e262-ac0f-a4c671a89cd9%40gmail.com.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
> you won't have access to the footprints you had previously used. You can make a project-local library and export the old footprints to it if desired. I think that is a reasonable workflow. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:40 PM Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 11/3/22 12:11 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > > KiCad 6.x should still be able to open these files even if they used old > symbols and footprints. I'm not sure they would need "porting" other than > saving in the updated format. New schematics can be made with new > symbols/footprints as desired. > > True, but if you have to modify an old design, when you go to assign > footprints to substituted parts, you won't have access to the footprints > you had previously used. In at least one case I ran into, the new > footprint was larger, even though the part would have fit just fine with > the older footprint. I had to grab a copy of the old footprint from an > archive to avoid laying out that area of the board again. > > I'm not saying it is impossible, but it can add extra work. I guess it > really depends on what folks need to do with their old designs. > > I keep VMs of older copies of Fedora so I can run older versions of KiCad > (and even Eagle on very rare occasions) if needed. Fortunately, it doesn't > happen often in my case. > > Steve > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "KiCad Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/530b7965-8251-481c-b1a5-594f3e8d67ca%40gmail.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/CA%2BqGbCBqasTvuwV0O8c%3DmdGWN7Z8rwWh72ELgrr6RGsbDUAjwg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
On 11/3/22 12:11 PM, Jon Evans wrote: KiCad 6.x should still be able to open these files even if they used old symbols and footprints. I'm not sure they would need "porting" other than saving in the updated format. New schematics can be made with new symbols/footprints as desired. True, but if you have to modify an old design, when you go to assign footprints to substituted parts, you won't have access to the footprints you had previously used. In at least one case I ran into, the new footprint was larger, even though the part would have fit just fine with the older footprint. I had to grab a copy of the old footprint from an archive to avoid laying out that area of the board again. I'm not saying it is impossible, but it can add extra work. I guess it really depends on what folks need to do with their old designs. I keep VMs of older copies of Fedora so I can run older versions of KiCad (and even Eagle on very rare occasions) if needed. Fortunately, it doesn't happen often in my case. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/530b7965-8251-481c-b1a5-594f3e8d67ca%40gmail.com.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
KiCad 6.x should still be able to open these files even if they used old symbols and footprints. I'm not sure they would need "porting" other than saving in the updated format. New schematics can be made with new symbols/footprints as desired. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 12:10 PM Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 11/3/22 11:38 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote: > > Can somebody address this request or at least point to the right > > direction of how to solve it in the easiest way? > > I suspect the biggest issue would be the libraries, as they have changed > over time. For example, I had a design that used: > > R_0603_1608Metric_Pad1.05x0.95mm_HandSolder > > but that apparently changed (way back in 2020, IIRC) to: > > R_0603_1608Metric_Pad0.98x0.95mm_HandSolder.kicad_mod > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "KiCad Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/a4d79d26-36b7-9f2a-6e17-224873276b49%40gmail.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/CA%2BqGbCDpPOga-jhkpWv-or%2BRdLyZK5YbBPoMunf51_QkTK%2BJ7w%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
On 11/3/22 11:38 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote: Can somebody address this request or at least point to the right direction of how to solve it in the easiest way? I suspect the biggest issue would be the libraries, as they have changed over time. For example, I had a design that used: R_0603_1608Metric_Pad1.05x0.95mm_HandSolder but that apparently changed (way back in 2020, IIRC) to: R_0603_1608Metric_Pad0.98x0.95mm_HandSolder.kicad_mod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/a4d79d26-36b7-9f2a-6e17-224873276b49%40gmail.com.
Re: [kicad] KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error
See also https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/12820 If those users want to keep using 4.0.7 they need to host it themselves. -Jon On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:38 AM Marco Ciampa wrote: > Can somebody address this request or at least point to the right > direction of how to solve it in the easiest way? > > - Forwarded message from Rahul Paknikar - > > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2022 18:06:47 +0530 > From: Rahul Paknikar > To: ciam...@posteo.net > Cc: SUMANTO KAR > Subject: Re: KiCad 4.0.7 does not have a release file error > > Dear Marco, > > As Sumanto mentioned, we have been using KiCad for the eSim EDA tool for > several years. During these years, we made a library of ~1000 schematics > designed in KiCad's latest version (v4.0.7) at that time. So, to remain > consistent and portable with our circuits library, we continued using KiCad > 4 based on this old version. > > We take this opportunity to request your suggestions on feasible ways to > port these circuit schematics to KiCad 5 or 6. > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 3:44 PM SUMANTO KAR > wrote: > > > Yes, truly KiCad 4.0.7 is very old. But we are from an Open Source > > Community(https://esim.fossee.in/home). We are using KiCad 4.0.7 as a > > frontend for the Open Source Tool. So we need it. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sumanto Kar > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022, 15:39 Marco Ciampa, wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 01:22:22PM +0530, SUMANTO KAR wrote: > >> > Hi!! > >> > > >> > We are getting the following error 'does not have a Release file' > error > >> > while installing KiCad: > >> > [image: image.png] > >> > > >> > Kindly look into it. > >> > > >> > Thanks & Regards, > >> > Sumanto Kar > >> > >> Why are you trying to install KiCad 4? It is way old! Even what comes > >> with your distribution (that is usually not so up to date) is newer! > >> Install KiCad 6! > >> > >> https://www.kicad.org/download/ubuntu/ > >> > >> sudo add-apt-repository --yes ppa:kicad/kicad-6.0-releases > >> sudo apt update > >> sudo apt install --install-recommends kicad > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Amike, > >> Marco Ciampa > >> > > > -- > With regards, > Rahul P. > > - End forwarded message - > > -- > > Amike, > Marco Ciampa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "KiCad Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/Y2PgWF243Gq1aicR%40ciampix-lap2022 > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KiCad Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to devlist+unsubscr...@kicad.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/kicad.org/d/msgid/devlist/CA%2BqGbCCxuhjti5WuzT3T9G%2BaKBWcOqmRGRpGnfLz97oV%2B%3D7kwQ%40mail.gmail.com.
