RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Right. and for the newer no code hams this will help how? At 04:18 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: IDing in CW has the benefits that its universally understood, requires no decoding software, and is trivial to implement. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Almost anyone can learn to decode a callsign and mode designator conveyed via 10 WPM CW, John. Worst case, you can write down the dots and dashes and decode it after the fact. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Becker, WOJAB Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:20 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Right. and for the newer no code hams this will help how? At 04:18 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote: IDing in CW has the benefits that its universally understood, requires no decoding software, and is trivial to implement. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Skip, you don't really mean that! Any witches to burn.. thieves to cut the hands off.. I'll go now and monitor the bands.. woe betide I find a NBEMS signal that interferes another signal.. Andy, DF4WC Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:50:52 -0500 Von: kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Jim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Greg Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albert Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Sent this email this morning: Good morning Charles, It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, especially since I copied you perfectly. Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to download the software. We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision happened. 73, Skip KH6TY -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger?did=10
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Andy, It is an honest attempt to work together to resolve a continuing problem. WG3G has been off the air for months, I believe, so the question is why is his transmitter automatically trying to connect with WG3G. I'll bet he doesn't even know it. Wouldn't you like to know? WG3G is in Trinidad according to ZS5S. No thanks for the sarcasm. Maybe you can help if you are so inclined...Would you like to? Skip - Original Message - From: Andreas Rehberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Skip, you don't really mean that! Any witches to burn.. thieves to cut the hands off.. I'll go now and monitor the bands.. woe betide I find a NBEMS signal that interferes another signal.. Andy, DF4WC Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:50:52 -0500 Von: kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Jim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Greg Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albert Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Sent this email this morning: Good morning Charles, It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, especially since I copied you perfectly. Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to download the software. We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision happened. 73, Skip KH6TY -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger?did=10 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
It is getting a bit crazy on 30m. I have been seeing a lot of Winlink QRM lately. If anyone doubts this, put your receiver on 10.140 USB and watch the PSK31 QSOs for a while. You can guarantee you won't have to wait very long before some Pactor station Winlink server switch to Pactor-3 and cover everyone up. I find it hard to believe that the initiating station couldn't hear at least one of the PSK31 signals. 73 Sholto KE7HPV. - Original Message - From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. 73, Rick, KV9U kh6ty wrote: Andy, It is an honest attempt to work together to resolve a continuing problem. WG3G has been off the air for months, I believe, so the question is why is his transmitter automatically trying to connect with WG3G. I'll bet he doesn't even know it. Wouldn't you like to know? WG3G is in Trinidad according to ZS5S. No thanks for the sarcasm. Maybe you can help if you are so inclined...Would you like to? Skip
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Rick wrote: I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. I was working an MFSK QSO Saturday, and a Pactor station fired up right on our frequency. He obviously couldn't have cared less at the initiating end that we were there. And of course at the other end there was no human being to curb this illegal activity. The QRM was intense, but I QROed to 200 watts and eventually it went away. Plain and simple illegal behavior by the Pactor station. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
At 04:57 AM 1/7/2008, Rick wrote: I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. 73, Rick, KV9U I bet that guy did not have a clue, he has a hardware box that can only use Amtor/Pactor. probably PSK31 and a couple of other modes.most of which he can't, or has never used. He has probably never been on any Internet forums or newsgroups, so he has not a clue what is going on in the digital world of Ham Radio, nor does he probably care. I would cite a lack of knowledge of modes and bandwidths etc on his part, maybe he thinks the various digital modes all have retrys and error correction..so it will just sort itself out and all modes will simply share frequencies! Yesterday, I was on 20m and I heard a stack of signals which were not Pactor (I had a Pactor sked setup) I switched to PSK31 on my hardware boxno go. I fired up HRD on my SLUSB, still no go :-( I was not sure what signals they were, to be able to try and resolve them, being just interested in what they were. Being a little tone deaf and not having an intimate knowledge of all the modes and what they sound like, did not help me. Were they MT63? PSK250? I don't know If you run Digipan, you have no hope! With the increasing number of new modes being developed, the problem will get worse :-( Add the coming of improved propagation and this will become a spectrum quagmire in which no one will be able to operate easily. We have all helped create the mess we have. A gazillion software programs, all doing their own thing some with many modes and expanding more modes, nearly daily, others that don't have so many modes. No software that I know of has a decoder function, with an identify signal menu. Unless the software guys can come up with something like that as an integrated or standalone solution, the schemozzle will get worse. IF people can identify a signal, with callsigns, they will be less inclined to interfere with it, if a operator can't resolve a signal.they probably care a lot less about any interference to it. Sadly, only soundcard software solutions can be given this signal decoder ability, hardware boxes are a different deal. You need operator digital modes knowledge too, many people do not know what all the modes sound like, I know I don't, even though I have a recording of mode sounds that someone on the group was good enough to post! Now, this is not bagging all the good people, who do software development for the benefit of Hams, for little or no cost BUT.. Someone bright enough to do it...is going to have to write that signal decoder program very soon.otherwise this whole problem will get worse. Fixing the WinLink problem is another deal altogether. 73s Jack VK4JRC
[digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Hello Jack,
In MultiPSK, the RS ID provides this function...automatically
changes mode and frequency also, when implemented. Not sure of any
other software that uses this function but it works very well and can
decode mode and center frequency fairly deep into the noise.
73,
Bill
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jack Chomley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
{snip}
No software that I know of has a decoder function, with an identify
signal menu. Unless the software guys can come up with something
like that as an integrated or standalone solution, the schemozzle
will get worse.
{end of snip}
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Jack Chomley wrote: At 04:57 AM 1/7/2008, Rick wrote: I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. 73, Rick, KV9U I bet that guy did not have a clue, he has a hardware box that can only use Amtor/Pactor. probably PSK31 and a couple of other modes.most of which he can't, or has never used. He has probably never been on any Internet forums or newsgroups, so he has not a clue what is going on in the digital world of Ham Radio, nor does he probably care. I would cite a lack of knowledge of modes and bandwidths etc on his part, maybe he thinks the various digital modes all have retrys and error correction..so it will just sort itself out and all modes will simply share frequencies! Yesterday, I was on 20m and I heard a stack of signals which were not Pactor (I had a Pactor sked setup) I switched to PSK31 on my hardware boxno go. I fired up HRD on my SLUSB, still no go :-( I was not sure what signals they were, to be able to try and resolve them, being just interested in what they were. Being a little tone deaf and not having an intimate knowledge of all the modes and what they sound like, did not help me. Were they MT63? PSK250? I don't know If you run Digipan, you have no hope! With the increasing number of new modes being developed, the problem will get worse :-( Add the coming of improved propagation and this will become a spectrum quagmire in which no one will be able to operate easily. We have all helped create the mess we have. A gazillion software programs, all doing their own thing some with many modes and expanding more modes, nearly daily, others that don't have so many modes. No software that I know of has a decoder function, with an identify signal menu. Unless the software guys can come up with something like that as an integrated or standalone solution, the schemozzle will get worse. IF people can identify a signal, with callsigns, they will be less inclined to interfere with it, if a operator can't resolve a signal.they probably care a lot less about any interference to it. Sadly, only soundcard software solutions can be given this signal decoder ability, hardware boxes are a different deal. You need operator digital modes knowledge too, many people do not know what all the modes sound like, I know I don't, even though I have a recording of mode sounds that someone on the group was good enough to post! Now, this is not bagging all the good people, who do software development for the benefit of Hams, for little or no cost BUT.. Someone bright enough to do it...is going to have to write that signal decoder program very soon.otherwise this whole problem will get worse. Fixing the WinLink problem is another deal altogether. 73s Jack VK4JRC Hi Jack.you didnt mention the 20m frequency that you were on and heard the digital signal that you could not recognise or decodei have been a digital op since 2000 and even i get problems with some digital modes..im usually on 14076 most evenings using JT65A..this looks like a carrier on the left side and tone dotes out to the right.it is part of the WSJT suite of modes.every night i get what are obviously Winlink PMBO's at around 14075.2 and 14075.6they come on even when there are strong signals on the freq so they must be auto and unattended..i believe these PMBO's use Pactor 3 which is a commercial program of SCS in Germany.i also believe that Winlink is a commercial program by the same company. there was a RTTY contest on this week end.14076 was unusable as many RTTY stations just used what freq they liked...some of us qsy'd to 18102 to see if we could get any VK to EU propagation..i put out a JT65A CQ and was immediatly clobbered by a very strong RTTY station.deliberate interference...by the look of his signal he was not calling CQ and there is no contests allowed on WARC bands any way.i continued to call CQ and he went away after about 5 minutes.. i agree Jack it looks like a mess and we ops have made it sothere has been some attempt to get areas for each one but once again there are ops who who dont know or wont comply with gentlemens agreements.. for those ops using Windows the program Multipsk has the most digital modes in it BUT not all of them as new ones are being made all the time 73 David VK4BDJ
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
IDing in CW has the benefits that its universally understood, requires no decoding software, and is trivial to implement. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Chomley Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:28 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M At 04:57 AM 1/7/2008, Rick wrote: I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. 73, Rick, KV9U I bet that guy did not have a clue, he has a hardware box that can only use Amtor/Pactor. probably PSK31 and a couple of other modes.most of which he can't, or has never used. He has probably never been on any Internet forums or newsgroups, so he has not a clue what is going on in the digital world of Ham Radio, nor does he probably care. I would cite a lack of knowledge of modes and bandwidths etc on his part, maybe he thinks the various digital modes all have retrys and error correction..so it will just sort itself out and all modes will simply share frequencies! Yesterday, I was on 20m and I heard a stack of signals which were not Pactor (I had a Pactor sked setup) I switched to PSK31 on my hardware boxno go. I fired up HRD on my SLUSB, still no go :-( I was not sure what signals they were, to be able to try and resolve them, being just interested in what they were. Being a little tone deaf and not having an intimate knowledge of all the modes and what they sound like, did not help me. Were they MT63? PSK250? I don't know If you run Digipan, you have no hope! With the increasing number of new modes being developed, the problem will get worse :-( Add the coming of improved propagation and this will become a spectrum quagmire in which no one will be able to operate easily. We have all helped create the mess we have. A gazillion software programs, all doing their own thing some with many modes and expanding more modes, nearly daily, others that don't have so many modes. No software that I know of has a decoder function, with an identify signal menu. Unless the software guys can come up with something like that as an integrated or standalone solution, the schemozzle will get worse. IF people can identify a signal, with callsigns, they will be less inclined to interfere with it, if a operator can't resolve a signal.they probably care a lot less about any interference to it. Sadly, only soundcard software solutions can be given this signal decoder ability, hardware boxes are a different deal. You need operator digital modes knowledge too, many people do not know what all the modes sound like, I know I don't, even though I have a recording of mode sounds that someone on the group was good enough to post! Now, this is not bagging all the good people, who do software development for the benefit of Hams, for little or no cost BUT.. Someone bright enough to do it...is going to have to write that signal decoder program very soon.otherwise this whole problem will get worse. Fixing the WinLink problem is another deal altogether. 73s Jack VK4JRC
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Dave AA6YQ wrote: IDing in CW has the benefits that its universally understood, requires no decoding software, and is trivial to implement. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Jack Chomley *Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:28 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M At 04:57 AM 1/7/2008, Rick wrote: I sure wish more hams would work on solving this problem, rather than exacerbating the situation and being part of the problem. Just a few minutes ago I was trying to have a Q with VE5MU using FAE 400 around 10137. A Pactor station starting transmitting right over our frequency. It is really unbelievable how hams think this is acceptable. It is just plain illegal operation. Period. There is no other way to call it. The Pactor station was S-9 at my location so I doubt very much if that station did not hear one of us and we had been on for quite some time before that happened. 73, Rick, KV9U I bet that guy did not have a clue, he has a hardware box that can only use Amtor/Pactor. probably PSK31 and a couple of other modes.most of which he can't, or has never used. He has probably never been on any Internet forums or newsgroups, so he has not a clue what is going on in the digital world of Ham Radio, nor does he probably care. I would cite a lack of knowledge of modes and bandwidths etc on his part, maybe he thinks the various digital modes all have retrys and error correction..so it will just sort itself out and all modes will simply share frequencies! Yesterday, I was on 20m and I heard a stack of signals which were not Pactor (I had a Pactor sked setup) I switched to PSK31 on my hardware boxno go. I fired up HRD on my SLUSB, still no go :-( I was not sure what signals they were, to be able to try and resolve them, being just interested in what they were. Being a little tone deaf and not having an intimate knowledge of all the modes and what they sound like, did not help me. Were they MT63? PSK250? I don't know If you run Digipan, you have no hope! With the increasing number of new modes being developed, the problem will get worse :-( Add the coming of improved propagation and this will become a spectrum quagmire in which no one will be able to operate easily. We have all helped create the mess we have. A gazillion software programs, all doing their own thing some with many modes and expanding more modes, nearly daily, others that don't have so many modes. No software that I know of has a decoder function, with an identify signal menu. Unless the software guys can come up with something like that as an integrated or standalone solution, the schemozzle will get worse. IF people can identify a signal, with callsigns, they will be less inclined to interfere with it, if a operator can't resolve a signal.they probably care a lot less about any interference to it. Sadly, only soundcard software solutions can be given this signal decoder ability, hardware boxes are a different deal. You need operator digital modes knowledge too, many people do not know what all the modes sound like, I know I don't, even though I have a recording of mode sounds that someone on the group was good enough to post! Now, this is not bagging all the good people, who do software development for the benefit of Hams, for little or no cost BUT.. Someone bright enough to do it...is going to have to write that signal decoder program very soon.otherwise this whole problem will get worse. Fixing the WinLink problem is another deal altogether. 73s Jack VK4JRC Hi Dave CW id is not universally understood..i for one have a hearing problem and CW is very difficult for me to hear let alone decode...also what about those who are deaf...we do have a number of them around the world... most are now using digital modesi have worked a deaf op on PSK31 and i wouldnt have known he was deaf until he told me... today there are also many new hams who havent had to learn CW as it is no longer a requirement for a HF licence in most countries... 73 David VK4BDJ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
At 08:33 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote: Hi Dave CW id is not universally understood..i for one have a hearing problem and CW is very difficult for me to hear let alone decode...also what about those who are deaf...we do have a number of them around the world... most are now using digital modesi have worked a deaf op on PSK31 and i wouldnt have known he was deaf until he told me... today there are also many new hams who havent had to learn CW as it is no longer a requirement for a HF licence in most countries... 73 David VK4BDJ You are right David. Sorry, I forgot your aspect. 73s Jack VK4JRC
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
In my experience, most users of digital modes beyond RTTY and PSK-31 stay up-to-date with whatever software they are using because 1. they need the defect repairs 2. they want the new features and modes Using CW (or any other universal mode) for identification does not require registration or registration databases. It simply requires an option that when enabled automatically appends your callsign and mode in CW to the end of a transmission if you haven't ID'd in the past 10 minutes. Most hams want to do the right thing; if we got the ball rolling and set a good example, many would jump on the bandwagon. However many modes there are today, there will be lots more by this time next year (counting variants). 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Chomley Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:28 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M At 08:18 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote: IDing in CW has the benefits that its universally understood, requires no decoding software, and is trivial to implement. 73, Dave, AA6YQ OK, ask ALL software developers to bury that function in their program.so it can't be switched OFF and IDs at fixed agreed intervals. ID fixed at program reg time (cannot be edited) ALL programs registered, or they don't work. Developers to keep databases of registration. Won't fix a thingpeople would simply keep using old versions of software. No, it all comes with a mode awareness campaign and some dedicated software, to work as a decoder. So...how MANY modes are there? 73s Jack VK4JRC
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Try: http://www.w1khj.com/NBEMS CHUCK AA5J At 01:02 PM 1/6/2008, Nick wrote: Hello Haward, Happy New Year! Sorry, http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS is not a working link. Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.w1khj.com 73! Sunday, January 06, 2008, 19:50:52, you wrote: k Sent this email this morning: k Good morning Charles, k It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect k with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the k NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an k hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, k January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may k not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. k Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know k where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One k of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. k We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the k frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, k especially since I copied you perfectly. k Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the k diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. k We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this k frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. k You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you k already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the k NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to k download the software. k We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision k happened. k 73, Skip KH6TY -- Best regards, Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Should be http://www.w1hkj.com/NBEMS. The k and h were transposed. Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Chuck Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Try: http://www.w1khj.com/NBEMS CHUCK AA5J At 01:02 PM 1/6/2008, Nick wrote: Hello Haward, Happy New Year! Sorry, http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS is not a working link. Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.w1khj.com 73! Sunday, January 06, 2008, 19:50:52, you wrote: k Sent this email this morning: k Good morning Charles, k It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect k with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the k NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an k hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, k January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may k not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. k Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know k where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One k of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. k We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the k frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, k especially since I copied you perfectly. k Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the k diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. k We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this k frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. k You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you k already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the k NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to k download the software. k We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision k happened. k 73, Skip KH6TY -- Best regards, Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
Yes, Skip. My bad. You are correct except for the . at the end of the link vbg Sorry for the qrm... that is little QRM, like psk31 is 73 Chuck AA5J At 01:02 PM 1/6/2008, Nick wrote: Hello Haward, Happy New Year! Sorry, http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS is not a working link. Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.w1khj.com 73! Sunday, January 06, 2008, 19:50:52, you wrote: k Sent this email this morning: k Good morning Charles, k It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect k with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the k NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an k hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, k January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may k not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. k Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know k where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One k of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. k We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the k frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, k especially since I copied you perfectly. k Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the k diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. k We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this k frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. k You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you k already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the k NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to k download the software. k We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision k happened. k 73, Skip KH6TY -- Best regards, Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
[digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M
My attempt at installation failed with NOTE: Now spawning the main Setup program 'Setup1.exe' *** ERROR: Cannot start main setup program! (CreateProcess() returned error code 0x0005H) Did you customize Setup1? Suggestions? 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kh6ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be http://www.w1hkj.com/NBEMS. The k and h were transposed. Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Chuck Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor on 30 M Try: http://www.w1khj.com/NBEMS CHUCK AA5J At 01:02 PM 1/6/2008, Nick wrote: Hello Haward, Happy New Year! Sorry, http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS is not a working link. Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.w1khj.com 73! Sunday, January 06, 2008, 19:50:52, you wrote: k Sent this email this morning: k Good morning Charles, k It is 12:26 PM on Sunday January 6, and you transmitted, calling to connect k with WG3G on 10.138 in Pactor 1, over top of an ongoing test of the k NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System that had been going on for half an k hour. What we want to know is your boat's position at 12:20 PM on Sunday, k January 6, or if you were in Patchogue NY, so we can figure out why you may k not have seen any activity on the frequency before transmitting for WG3G. k Your website says you do not have a cruising boat yet, so we don't know k where you might have been. You were a solid S7 here in South Carolina. One k of the stations also on the air is not too far away, in Fredonia, NY. k We understand that accidents happen, but with six stations sharing the k frequency, it is unlikely that you could not have copied any of them, k especially since I copied you perfectly. k Attached is a screen capture of the incident. Your signal is centered on the k diamond and if you look hard you can see the PSK63 signal you covered up. k We will be testing the NarrowBand Emergency Messaging System around this k frequency in the coming days, so the frequency will often be occupied. k You write on your web page that the hamming bug has bitten you. Since you k already work Pactor, maybe you would like to participate in the test of the k NBEMS. If so to to http://www.w1khj/NBEMShttp://www.w1khj/NBEMS for information and a link to k download the software. k We are looking forward to your helping us understand how this collision k happened. k 73, Skip KH6TY -- Best regards, Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
