Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol __malloc_lock'
Quoting Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr: Upgrading between major versions requires all installed ports to be rebuilt, so they get linked to the new versions of the libraries. I suppose you missed this step, older apps may still work but there is a problem installing new ones. Please see the instructions at the end of section 24.2.3 (portupgrade etc): This is why I'm at a loss here. I upgraded the base system from the sources and then used portupgrade -af to rebuild all installed packages. Right after upgrading the base system, essentially everything from X to Emacs was broken (I tried, just for the heck of it). After running portupgrade, these problems were all fixed - except for xfburn. (AFAIR, if you upgraded via source, you will also need to run make delete-old-libs in /usr/src after successfully recompiling ports) I'll try that, as I've never seen this before. I definitely didn't do that. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoeni...@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with mhoenicka) http://www.mhoenicka.de ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
2009/6/25 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com: I like M$ Notepad - is there a version of that for FBSD? Actually the old edit from dos is sweet too I'll humour you... gedit is similar and better than notepad for BSD, but there's nothing like 'edit' (actually a stripped down QBasic) AFAIK. Maybe you should write one! Perhaps the closest thing there is ee. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Editor in minimal system (was Re: The question of moving vi to /bin)
This whole thread only really got started because I questioned Manish Jain's assertion that there was no editor available in /bin. To summarise: There are several editors available ranging from ed (49604 bytes) and ee (60920 bytes) (both with two library dependencies) to emacs (in ports; 5992604 bytes and 50 library dependencies in my installation) and probably beyond. One of them, ed, is available in /bin and therefore in single-user mode. Two of them, ed and vi, are available in /rescue and therefore in single-user mode even when something horrible happens and libraries are broken (although /rescue/vi is currently slightly broken itself due to the termcap issue which is being fixed in -CURRENT and I hope will be MFC'd). Anyone who wants /usr/bin/vi available in single-user mode can install FreeBSD with one large partition; or mount /usr once in single-user mode. The original poster suggested that the fix for not having vi in /bin was not to have any editor at all in /rescue, which comprehensively misses the point of /rescue. The only argument that's been advanced for moving vi seems to be ``vi should be in /bin because that's how I want it''. I find that argument unconvincing, but it's not up to me. I'm open to a sensible argument, if anyone has one. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kernel panic - umount xfs partition
Hello, I have a Dabian 5.0 and FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 on i386 athlon-xp. I have two partitions under Debian. They are xfs file system. So I mount it from FreeBSD # mount -t xfs -o ro /dev/ad0s1 /mnt # ls /mnt # umount /mnt Everything is OK, but now I do the following # mount -t xfs -o ro /dev/ad0s2 /mnt # ls /mnt # cp /mnt/my_file /home/zbigniew when cp finish the system was frozen and after a while do reboot. After reboot I saw coredump on the swap file. This is only for me or also maybe you have such problem. My system is for desktop usage. I work at school. Zbigniew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
I recently went through the ropes of installing latex on my FreeBSD machine. You may the discussion I had helpful. See # 256 and below, from here: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Jun 26, 2009 6:41am, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: I recently went through the ropes of installing latex on my FreeBSD machine. You may the discussion I had helpful. See # 256 and below, from here: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions.html Thanks for the link to the previous discussion. So, should I use the TeXLive or teTeX given by Polytropon? Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,
2009/6/26 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Polytroponfree...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:21 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: What kind of editor do you need for rescue? Just edit one or two lines in some config file to allow the full system to start again. Rescue does not need an editor programmers are used to edit their source files. I won't say anything different. For the usual maintenance and get the damn thing working again tasks the /rescue editor, especially vi, should be enough. Commands are i, a, and :wq. Don't forget about dd ;) -- Glen Barber Or :wq! for when it _just_ _won't_ _write_! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
2009/6/26 Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for TeXLive. It's found at http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/wiki/Installing I'm supposed to be doing work on it involving porting LyX... but I'm committed to other stuff at the moment too :( Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for TeXLive. I didn't know that. I've had no problems with the generic version though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? No, but it's not necessary. Just go here http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image. well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together. Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
QEMU + FreeBSD
I have installed FreeBSD 7.2 on my notebook in the last week, and installed QEmu as well. I cannot seem to get the network interface working. It works on my desktop machine, but that is running 7.0 looking around, I tried to find some other options, and went here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/qemu and got stuck at this step: # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=fxp0,tap0 # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1 because nothing matching net.link.ether.bridge* exists. Does anyone know of a current good setup document? thanks, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
troubleshooting sudden memory spikes
Hello, I have a 7.2 FreeBSD server that has recently started to exhibit some strange behaviour. For a few days (since Monday) the number of inactive memory is constantly on the rise. When it gets to a certain level (around 1300-1400M), the system will start swapping, the inactvie memory gets released and free memory jumps to about 1300-1500M. You can see some graphs here to better realise what I am trying to describe: http://www.slowo.pl/_files/mem/ I was once able to see the memory spike occuring and I noticed that proftpd was intensively being used at that time. We have implemented some changes to proftpd setup to make sure it does not cause trouble. However, the spikes still occur. I am wondering how to troubleshoot it. Where would you start looking to solve the problem? I am suspecting: 1/ proftpd still causes some kind of a problem on one jail 2/ at least one website is quite buggy and generates a lot of entries in error.log so maybe it is the site? 3/ something about the jail system which was added about two weeks ago? As of writing this email... last pid: 85820; load averages: 0.20, 0.17, 0.17 up 16+00:10:51 17:30:49 73 processes: 1 running, 72 sleeping CPU: 2.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.2% interrupt, 96.5% idle Mem: 256M Active, 1393M Inact, 234M Wired, 61M Cache, 112M Buf, 50M Free Swap: 4492M Total, 285M Used, 4207M Free, 6% Inuse The system is not very busy (load average above is quite typical for that machine) and prior to Monday it has never swapped. For the whole year I haven't managed to use more than 2MB of swap space. But this changed this Monday. I would like to find out what causes such behaviour so your suggestions are very much appreciated! Thank you and have a nice weekend! Zbigniew Szalbot www.fairtrade.net.pl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? No, but it's not necessary. Just go here http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image. well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together. Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now. The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt). Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of additional packages than teTeX. So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with FreeBSD binaries. Look at the mailing list archives for threads called LaTeX oder teTeX in October 2007, and Installing latest version of LaTeX in June 2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpbX9jB78X2J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Device naming on scbus using isp
I'm wondering about how device names are assigned on scbus, specifically when using the isp driver. It seems to me that there's potential when an HBA has access to multiple LUNs that on boot the scbus will have entries in /dev scrambled compared to the previous run (thus messing up mounts). My experience so far has been that da0 will be assigned to the first target scanned, da1 to the second, etc. Is this generally something countered with device.hints? If a LUN were to go away, but a device hint pointing to the target:unit remained, would that cause any issues on boot? Thanks, Brent ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vde2 tap brings down external networking
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: I'm trying to network a couple of qemu vm together and to the outside world. After much pain and gnashing of teeth I found a setup that works temporarily. I start both vm's with a command similar to this: vde_switch -hub -tap /dev/tap0 chmod -R 666 /var/run/vde.ctl vdeqemu -vga cirrus -localtime -hda linux-boot-0.img -hdb linux-boot-1.img \ -hdc linux-data-0.img -hdd linux-data-1.img -m 392 -boot c -kernel-kqemu ipfw divert and natd are present. ifconfig looks like this: midco# ifconfig xl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU ether 00:04:76:d2:50:25 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP half-duplex) status: active nfe0: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4 ether 00:04:4b:04:01:28 inet 208.107.54.67 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 208.107.55.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex,flag0,flag1) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 bridge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 ether e6:56:26:6d:f8:f8 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: nfe0 flags=143LEARNING,DISCOVER,AUTOEDGE,AUTOPTP ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20 ipfw show: midco# ipfw show 65535 1483037 1334261656 allow ip from any to any once I add tap0 to bridge0 I have only a few minutes to access my external network. Once it goes down, I am unable to revive via normal methods eg /etc/rc.d/netif restart /etc/rc.d/routed restart. Anything going to external network timeouts, but tap/vm stuff is great. Even destroying vm's/bridge/tap and bringing everything up doesn't restore networking, I have to reboot. netstat -nr looks the same before and after. midco# netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default208.107.54.1 UGS 0 591581 nfe0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 24lo0 192.168.0.0/24 link#4 UC 00 bridge 208.107.54.0/23link#2 UC 00 nfe0 208.107.54.1 00:13:5f:05:e3:d9 UHLW20 nfe0 1198 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#3UHL lo0 ff01:3::/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 /var/log/messages only had arp stuff relating to bridge which I suppressed. Thanks, PS bring up qemu networking in multicast mode to achieve this hangs my cable modem. -- Adam Vande More Disabling divert rule fixed it, but unable to get nat to work -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Restrict process(es) to single core
Suppose I'm running a multi-threaded program that's utilizing both cores of my CPU. I'm not interested in it's speed, however, and would like to free up another core for general purpose. Is there a way (without altering/recompiling the program, obviously) to restricting a process and its children to a single core? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Jun 26, 2009 10:40am, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? No, but it's not necessary. Just go here http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image. well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together. Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now. The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt). Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of additional packages than teTeX. So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with FreeBSD binaries. Look at the mailing list archives for threads called LaTeX oder teTeX in October 2007, and Installing latest version of LaTeX in June 2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive. Roland Thanks Roland. Looks like TeXLive it is. Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Adding data to existing CD/DVD
I have tried both xfburn and cdrecord; however, I cannot figure out how to add data to an existing CD, or create a CD that I can later add data to. It seems that once the CD is written to, this disc is closed. I have seen a few options that allow writing to the disk multiple times; however, they are then only viewable on a FreeBSD system. I need to create discs that are viewable on multiple OS's and that I can add data to after the initial burn. Using mkisofs creates an ISO that makes adding data to impossible as far as I can tell. On windows, it is easily done. I just cannot get a handle on how to do it on FreeBSD. Maybe I need a different program? -- Carmel car...@hotmail.com If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings -- including this one. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
vde qemu write: No buffer space available
I'm having issues with high network throughput with vde and qemu. There are two qemu vm's each running debian lenny and they are configured for drbd. The vm's work fine until drbd is started then the networking fails. The only message I get(on the host side) is write: No buffer space available which is echoed to console, and nothing appears in the logs. I believe this to be an issue with vde, but I can't be certain because I can't seem to find any way to turn on more extensive logging. Anyone have an idea how to resolve this? Thanks, -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
torrents.freebsd.org
Hello, I'm currently trying to setup a bittorrent tracker to distribute files, such as patches, to users when they're stuck behind our captive portal. My experience over the last several weeks is that the software is flaky, the documentation is poor, and no projects are being actively maintained (or at least, projects in the FreeBSD ports tree). I'm getting the feeling that you need to be a member of an elite, invitation-only group that performs heavy customizations every time a tracker is installed. I found net-p2p/bnbt and I thought it was the way to go. I somehow managed to get it setup in the dev environment, load some torrents to be tracked, and away we went. When I tried to reproduce this success in our testing environment, I failed miserably. I can no longer figure out what I did to get bnbt to load the torrents (apparently it was more complicated than just dropping them off in the allowed_dir). I discovered from a ktrace that bnbt is indeed scanning my allowed_dir on startup and periodically after that, but it won't list the torrents in the web interface, and it tells clients requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker. I'm hoping to find somebody who's successfully running bnbt for some pointers. If nothing else, I'd love to get in touch with the operators of torrents.freebsd.org to find out what they're doing. Thanks for any help, -- Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley pgpL1Mud44fTt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Restrict process(es) to single core
On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: Suppose I'm running a multi-threaded program that's utilizing both cores of my CPU. I'm not interested in it's speed, however, and would like to free up another core for general purpose. Is there a way (without altering/recompiling the program, obviously) to restricting a process and its children to a single core? The simple way would be to use renice to change the process priority; other normal processes you run would get CPU first, but this task would be able to use all system resources if nothing else is. I'm not sure whether FreeBSD currently has a way to bind tasks to only running on a subset of available CPUs (ie, CPUSETs mechanism in Linux, set CPU affinity in Windows, etc). Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Restrict process(es) to single core
2009/6/27 Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com: On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: Suppose I'm running a multi-threaded program that's utilizing both cores of my CPU. I'm not interested in it's speed, however, and would like to free up another core for general purpose. Is there a way (without altering/recompiling the program, obviously) to restricting a process and its children to a single core? The simple way would be to use renice to change the process priority; other normal processes you run would get CPU first, but this task would be able to use all system resources if nothing else is. I'm not sure whether FreeBSD currently has a way to bind tasks to only running on a subset of available CPUs (ie, CPUSETs mechanism in Linux, set CPU affinity in Windows, etc). Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If you're running FreeBSD 7.1 or up, theres a program called cpuset. man cpuset I think that's what you're after. Allows binding of process to certain CPUs. Regards David N ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Restrict process(es) to single core
That's great, thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
my kernel is not build/install
When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 KERNEL Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
Кирилл А. Фомин wrote: Здравствуйте, Rolf. In my first mail i attach my config file. Latest i attach full console output. Вы писали 26 июня 2009 г., 23:35:14: Brent Bloxam wrote: fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org According to the makefile, make kernel does make buildkernel + make installkernel, so that shouldn't be the problem. Your question is very vague. Could you please attach the complete output (or at least the last portion of it, e.g. 10-15 lines or so). First, please do not reply to me only. Put the list on CC, in case somebody else has some insight on the matter. I looked at the kernel config file, but it is pretty difficult to see what is wrong, without either knowing all the options by heart or comparing it to the NOTES files. Moreover, I am sorry, but I cannot find the console output that you say you attached. Either I am blind or it got stripped somewhere on the way. -- Rolf Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
On Friday 26 June 2009 12:50:22 pm Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Кирилл А. Фомин wrote: Здравствуйте, Rolf. In my first mail i attach my config file. Latest i attach full console output. Вы писали 26 июня 2009 г., 23:35:14: Brent Bloxam wrote: fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org According to the makefile, make kernel does make buildkernel + make installkernel, so that shouldn't be the problem. Your question is very vague. Could you please attach the complete output (or at least the last portion of it, e.g. 10-15 lines or so). First, please do not reply to me only. Put the list on CC, in case somebody else has some insight on the matter. I looked at the kernel config file, but it is pretty difficult to see what is wrong, without either knowing all the options by heart or comparing it to the NOTES files. Moreover, I am sorry, but I cannot find the console output that you say you attached. Either I am blind or it got stripped somewhere on the way. He has umass # USB support device uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface device ehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen# Generic device uhid# Human Interface Devices device ukbd# Keyboard device ulpt# Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da But in his SCSI peripherals he has scbus and da commented out. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
Dnia piątek 26 czerwiec 2009 o 21:27:58 Brent Bloxam napisał(a): fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig- building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` From /usr/src/Makefile: # kernel - buildkernel + installkernel. This shouldtn't be the main problem. You should look for full log from kernel building. f.ex. run: cd /usr/src; make buildkernel | tee kernel_compilation.log and search in this log for an error in this log. Cheers, Maciej Milewski ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
Brent Bloxam wrote: fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org According to the makefile, make kernel does make buildkernel + make installkernel, so that shouldn't be the problem. Your question is very vague. Could you please attach the complete output (or at least the last portion of it, e.g. 10-15 lines or so). -- Rolf Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: my kernel is not build/install
On Friday 26 June 2009 12:50:22 pm Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Кирилл А. Фомин wrote: Здравствуйте, Rolf. In my first mail i attach my config file. Latest i attach full console output. Вы писали 26 июня 2009 г., 23:35:14: Brent Bloxam wrote: fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org According to the makefile, make kernel does make buildkernel + make installkernel, so that shouldn't be the problem. Your question is very vague. Could you please attach the complete output (or at least the last portion of it, e.g. 10-15 lines or so). First, please do not reply to me only. Put the list on CC, in case somebody else has some insight on the matter. I looked at the kernel config file, but it is pretty difficult to see what is wrong, without either knowing all the options by heart or comparing it to the NOTES files. Moreover, I am sorry, but I cannot find the console output that you say you attached. Either I am blind or it got stripped somewhere on the way. He has umass # USB support device uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface device ehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen# Generic device uhid# Human Interface Devices device ukbd# Keyboard device ulpt# Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da But in his SCSI peripherals he has scbus and da commented out. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html May be Kent Stewart wright, cose http://dumpz.org/10103/. I try compile the my kernel whith the all SCSI peripherals uncomment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor in minimal system (was Re: The question of moving vi to /bin)
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:59:28AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: This whole thread only really got started because I questioned Manish Jain's assertion that there was no editor available in /bin. To summarise: There are several editors available ranging from ed (49604 bytes) and ee (60920 bytes) (both with two library dependencies) to emacs (in ports; 5992604 bytes and 50 library dependencies in my installation) and probably beyond. One of them, ed, is available in /bin and therefore in single-user mode. Two of them, ed and vi, are available in /rescue and therefore in single-user mode even when something horrible happens and libraries are broken (although /rescue/vi is currently slightly broken itself due to the termcap issue which is being fixed in -CURRENT and I hope will be MFC'd). Anyone who wants /usr/bin/vi available in single-user mode can install FreeBSD with one large partition; or mount /usr once in single-user mode. The original poster suggested that the fix for not having vi in /bin was not to have any editor at all in /rescue, which comprehensively misses the point of /rescue. The only argument that's been advanced for moving vi seems to be ``vi should be in /bin because that's how I want it''. I find that argument unconvincing, but it's not up to me. I'm open to a sensible argument, if anyone has one. Jonathan What about making it be a build option? Or at least symlink the static vi in /rescue to /bin...? I mean we have 1.5TB drives now! 3700 blocks is a burp. A small burp. For that matter, why not have the option of moving the majority of /rescue to /bin? I've only had to use the rescue floppy a few times, but did so only because i needed grep and vi to edit /etc/fsck ... And major, irksome desl using cat and ed to look at that file. And a few others in /etc. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding data to existing CD/DVD
Carmel NY carmel...@hotmail.com writes: I have tried both xfburn and cdrecord; however, I cannot figure out how to add data to an existing CD, or create a CD that I can later add data to. It seems that once the CD is written to, this disc is closed. I have seen a few options that allow writing to the disk multiple times; however, they are then only viewable on a FreeBSD system. I need to create discs that are viewable on multiple OS's and that I can add data to after the initial burn. Using mkisofs creates an ISO that makes adding data to impossible as far as I can tell. You need to *not* fixate the disk, and on subsequent sessions you need to tell mkisofs where to start the new image. The burning command also needs to know that it's a multi-session disk. See the -C option for mkisofs, and the -multi option for cdrecord. My crib sheet for burning disks provides an example: # first session TZ=UTC-5 mkisofs -R $filenames |cdrecord -v driveropts=burnfree -multi -data -tao - #other sessions OFST=`cdrecord -msinfo` echo $OFST TZ=UTC-5 mkisofs -M $dv -C $OFST -R $filenames |cdrecord -v driveropts=burnfree -tao -multi -data -eject - On windows, it is easily done. I just cannot get a handle on how to do it on FreeBSD. Maybe I need a different program? Certainly the sysutils/k3b port makes it much simpler. But the command line is quite easy too, now that I have a working script written down. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: my kernel is not build/install
On Friday 26 June 2009 01:25:58 pm fo...@pisem.net wrote: On Friday 26 June 2009 12:50:22 pm Rolf G Nielsen wrote: Кирилл А. Фомин wrote: Здравствуйте, Rolf. In my first mail i attach my config file. Latest i attach full console output. Вы писали 26 июня 2009 г., 23:35:14: Brent Bloxam wrote: fo...@pisem.net wrote: When I make my kernel (make kernel KERNCONF=KERNEL) it stop whith Error code 1 According to Chapter 8.5 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html): 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL You need to use `make buildkernel`, not `make kernel` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org According to the makefile, make kernel does make buildkernel + make installkernel, so that shouldn't be the problem. Your question is very vague. Could you please attach the complete output (or at least the last portion of it, e.g. 10-15 lines or so). First, please do not reply to me only. Put the list on CC, in case somebody else has some insight on the matter. I looked at the kernel config file, but it is pretty difficult to see what is wrong, without either knowing all the options by heart or comparing it to the NOTES files. Moreover, I am sorry, but I cannot find the console output that you say you attached. Either I am blind or it got stripped somewhere on the way. He has umass # USB support deviceuhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface deviceohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface deviceehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0) deviceusb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices deviceugen# Generic deviceuhid# Human Interface Devices deviceukbd# Keyboard deviceulpt# Printer deviceumass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da But in his SCSI peripherals he has scbus and da commented out. Kent May be Kent Stewart wright, cose http://dumpz.org/10103/. I try compile the my kernel whith the all SCSI peripherals uncomment. You need to add the error messages. You got stdout and what was wrong was still missing. I have a script that I use to do a build[world, kernel] that uses /var/log/build. I added build to ..\log. It does nothing more than make buildkernel KERNCONF=FREEBSD1 21 | tee /var/log/build/bkernel-`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M`.log It leaves a complete log everytime I build a kernel. Your options would be different and I also use csh. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 pm 14:01:02 Polytropon wrote: Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 was this the russian PDP-11? I'm not sure if there was a PDP-11 compatible system. Contruction mostly concentrated on IBM compatibles (and I don't mean PCs with that, of course). Maybe there's something USSR-special with a russian name (Iskra, Minsk, erm, no the Minsk wasn't a PDP-like...). There in fact was a system compatible to DEC's VAX architecture, the robotron K1840: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/k1840.htm It did not only have software support for VAX (with its OS SVP1800), but as well for UNIX (with its OS MUTOS1800). As far as I know, the russians (i. e. the soviets) participated, like every country in the RGW, in manufacturing computers. From the USSR, especially processors were delivered, while other countries specialized on other fields, such as the GDR on magnetic tape units. The P8000 was manufactured by EAW in Berlin in the GDR. It was a UNIX System III multi-user workstation environment, used mostly for application programming. http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000.htm http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000compact.htm I still own such a system and would like to get it working some day (one P8000 and one P8000 compact). So much for today's history lesson. :-) multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many years in the distant past. :-) You want to say 'yesterday'? No. Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. :-) Being into that computer stuff makes you feel old, even when you're young, because you've already seen everything... When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting pain. :-) I do not think so. He will go directly to heaven. Why? He made all computer users pray that no data get lost when the machine freezes again. And finally, he invented God, the Heaven, the Hell (delivered in small packages called Windows), the universe, life and everything. Children get educated that way, at least in today's german schools. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:32:31 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Ere I am, J. H., the ghost in the machine. :-) I've never tried TeXLive, I have to admit, because I NEVER had ANY problem using the teTeX package. And yes, I don't build it from source because pkg_add -r is so much comfortable. There are some tools that are a good put aside for teTeX, such as xpdf (which brings also pdftotext), and gv, dvitty, xdvi. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. It would be nice to hear what - in such a case - has been the problem with teTeX that TeXLive then solved. As I said, I never found myself in such a situation, and I'm using LaTeX for nearly everything. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
Hi, On 27 June 2009 am 07:08:01 Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 pm 14:01:02 Polytropon wrote: Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 was this the russian PDP-11? I'm not sure if there was a PDP-11 compatible system. Contruction mostly concentrated on IBM compatibles (and I don't mean PCs with that, of course). Maybe there's something USSR-special with a russian name (Iskra, Minsk, erm, no the Minsk wasn't a PDP-like...). there was a PDP copy available but it is not mentioned on this site: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/k1840.ht m And finally, he invented God, the Heaven, the Hell (delivered in small packages called Windows), the universe, life and everything. Children get educated that way, at least in today's german schools. :-) A real bad development, also here. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
Polytropon, here is the problem I was having: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2351398+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions Granted, that's not much to go on :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
That's a very good suggestion. But let's take into mind that we do need the most advanced and modern MICROS~1 technology, so FreeBSD should include a pirated copy of Windows 7 in order to run the latest and most expensive pirated copy of Office, programmed in Java, running through Flash. With music. And dancing puppies. Hah! I'll have to use this paragraph. Hilarious. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:53:46 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Polytropon, here is the problem I was having: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2351398+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions Granted, that's not much to go on :) Ah, I see, the famous xcolor package. Okay, I have to admit that I never used it before, so no problem for teTeX from the ports. Until now, I was fine with usepackage(color) and usepackage(colortbl), then rowcolor, columncolor and cellcolor, and finally colorbox. Seems that I am not a color-power-user. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: torrents.freebsd.org
Chris Cowart wrote: Hello, I'm currently trying to setup a bittorrent tracker to distribute files, Hi, Try http://www.freenas.org/ -- it comes with web panel and has Bittorent module along other modules. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org