[Relinux-dev] [Question #199608]: Customize Appearance
New question #199608 on relinux: https://answers.launchpad.net/relinux/+question/199608 Can we have clear instructions on how to: 1) Change the background wallpaper in the final iso 2) Change the splash initial page 3) Change the Usplash loading page Thank you very much! -- You received this question notification because you are a member of relinux development team, which is an answer contact for relinux. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev Post to : relinux-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Relinux-dev] [Bug 897581] Re: Ubiquity not working / Live CD/DVD User not added to sudo group?
I would add that I am using the gnome classic session. Anyway since using latest version of relinux only this has changed. Thank you, Marco -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of relinux development team, which is subscribed to relinux. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/897581 Title: Ubiquity not working / Live CD/DVD User not added to sudo group? Status in relinux: New Bug description: I discovered by chance downloading the last .tar.gz that we should have a regression. Basically when you remaster a live CD/DVD with http://launchpad.net/relinux/0.3/0.3.0a2/+download/relinux_0.3.0a2.tar.gz the installer ubiquity will not launch, asking for a password (which is not set because we are running live). sudo su in a terminal will ask also for a password, but this time I can press enter twice and I'm drop to the root prompt, so it seems the password is only blank or something like this. Let me know how can I help, debug? Marco To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/relinux/+bug/897581/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev Post to : relinux-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Relinux-dev] [Bug 897581] Re: Ubiquity not working / Live CD/DVD User not added to sudo group?
artistx@artistx12:~$ uname -a Linux artistx12 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:25:36 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux artistx@artistx12:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 11.10 Release:11.10 Codename: oneiric artistx@artistx12:~$ dpkg -l ubiquity* casper Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++--- ii casper 1.287.1 Run a live preinstalled system from read-only media ii ubiquity 2.8.7Ubuntu live CD installer un ubiquity-artwork-2.8.7 none (no description available) ii ubiquity-casper 1.287.1 Configuration hooks for live installer un ubiquity-frontend-2.8.7 none (no description available) ii ubiquity-frontend-gtk2.8.7GTK+ frontend for Ubiquity live installer ii ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork 2.8.7Ubuntu artwork for Ubiquity live installer un ubiquity-ubuntu-doc none (no description available) artistx@artistx12:~$ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of relinux development team, which is subscribed to relinux. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/897581 Title: Ubiquity not working / Live CD/DVD User not added to sudo group? Status in relinux: New Bug description: I discovered by chance downloading the last .tar.gz that we should have a regression. Basically when you remaster a live CD/DVD with http://launchpad.net/relinux/0.3/0.3.0a2/+download/relinux_0.3.0a2.tar.gz the installer ubiquity will not launch, asking for a password (which is not set because we are running live). sudo su in a terminal will ask also for a password, but this time I can press enter twice and I'm drop to the root prompt, so it seems the password is only blank or something like this. Let me know how can I help, debug? Marco To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/relinux/+bug/897581/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev Post to : relinux-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~relinux-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Bug 676488] Re: dbus.proxies:Introspect error when cleaning up prevents clean up action
Still not resolved in Maverick. what can I do? thank you -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676488 Title: dbus.proxies:Introspect error when cleaning up prevents clean up action To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/computer-janitor/+bug/676488/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 676488] Re: dbus.proxies:Introspect error when cleaning up prevents clean up action
Still not resolved in Maverick. what can I do? thank you -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676488 Title: dbus.proxies:Introspect error when cleaning up prevents clean up action To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/computer-janitor/+bug/676488/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: ArtistX 0.6 question: rewrite wiki and manual
Hi all, time to report back! ArtistX 0.6 seems running fine, it was a 3 day attempt but at the end I got it. :-) Here's what I did (I'm preparing the tutorial): A) create graphics customizations: - create a 640x480 splash.png image for the isolinux background, put into config/binary_local-includes/isolinux/data/ - customize the README.html, README.mirrors.html cdrom files and put them into config/binary_local-includes/ - create a 1024x768 background-color.png image for the splashy background, put into config/chroot_local-includes/etc/splashy/themes/moreblue-orbit - create a 1024x768 moreblue-orbit-wallpaper.svg (infact is a jpeg just renamed to .svg), put into config/chroot_local-includes/usr/share/images/desktop-base/ B) create a starting ISO (adding only splashy, splashy themes, kcontrol, konqueror, tango-icons-theme as a start to customize more after): 1) lh_config in an ARTISTX_0.6 directory somewhere on my Desktop 2) change config accordingly to my parameters (I'll try to keep online the config dir, which is the best place on Debian Live website? - or I could upload it on ArtistX website and link there). I change many things, most notably enabling the interactive build for later customizations. 3) lh_build 4) running live I install GNOME and KDE themes, enable the Debian Menu (otherwise many apps wont show in the normal Gnome menu and customize the Desktop (except for the background), copy /home/artistx/ into /tmp , compress it, send it to my building machine and put relevant files (.gnome2, .kde, .config, .local ...) it into config/chroot_local-includes/etc/skel/ C) create the final ISO 1) lh_build 2) when it has finished installing Gnome (gnome-full list) or Kde (kde-full list) it brings me to the prompt where I apt-get install all multimedia software 3) apt-get clean 4) update-menus 5) update-rc.d -f service-name remove to remove unnecessary starting services (like mysql or apache2 brought in by other software) 6) exit to start the building process That's all, few problems: 1) if I use the config/chroot file for installing a lot of software (2000) I will get a xargs error about cp not able to copy because of an Argument list too long. So I enable the interactive build and apt-get from inside the chroot. 2) One thing it took me a long time to fix is that installing the motion software will prevent Debian Live from creating the ArtistX user with GID 1000, since motion is creating exactly the same GID for its user. What can be done? Ask the motion Debian packager to change the GID? 3) For some reason the file used for splashy background and Desktop background seems to default to the MoreBlue-Orbit theme 4) I don't know how to write a script so I'm out of luck for istant NTFS support, which needs the user ArtistX to be added to the fuse group. 5) The installer is not working: I enable the live installer, but when I try both Graphical and Text install I get a message after cdrom detection saying that the kernel modules could not be found, so the installation cannot continue. I think this is something regarding some modules debs name being too long for the ISO standard and being converted to shorter names just before .iso creation (after squash file creation). To whom should I report? That's all guys, hope it's useful infos for Debian Live newbies/not so advanced users like me :-) I will turn all this into a tutorial, if you wish. Ciao all, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ArtistX 0.6 question: rewrite wiki and manual
Hi All, I'm in the process of building the new ArtistX ( www.artistx.org ) and would like to use DL as for the last 5 versions :-) (as always I will add a reference to DL in the Distrowatch announcement and on the ArtistX website to give DL the maximum credit). Long time ago I made a tutorial (which is now in the Wiki under unsupported) and I would like to update it as DL has changed a bit over the last two years...:-) My usual steps 1) lh_config and change config/ files by hand (setting only boot parameters to make splashy work and enabling the interactive build) 2) during interactive build add packages and graphic customization (basically I create a empty iso with the same Kde/Gnome, save home dir and copy to /etc/skel the relevant files + change isolinux splash pic + wallpaper in /usr/share/images/desktop-base and splashy background in /etc/splashy/themes) I understand now how to use the include files using binary_local-includes/ and chroot_local-includes/ but: 1) how to use external apt sources and make sure they will go into the final iso? Need to add only debian-multimedia.org packages. 2) how to add the user artistx to various groups for making effective the installation of software like ntfs3g or other packages that require that the user is added to groups he is not part of. 3) how to test and include the new live installer (should I put the live installer udeb into binary_local-udebs/ ?) I'm willing to write all your answers in the wiki in the tutorial and help to write relevant section of the manual about these topics so nobody should ask again to build his custom Debian. I would strongly recommend to include graphic customizations, groups management and the installer as options of Live Magic. In that way it would become more like the Reconstructor GUI ( http://reconstructor.aperantis.com ) and spread DL also between non-technical people. I would be the first tester! Best regards, Marco Ghirlanda
Re: ArtistX 0.6 question: rewrite wiki and manual
Thanks everybody for the replies. I didn't understand so much the hook thing. Should I add a script that basically repeats usermod commands but where (which dir)? And when will be run? (I mean at which point of the iso creation or booting?) Groups are really important for many application, is there a simple way of adding my user to a list of groups? Without this I get lots of complains from people about not supporting ntfs and such things. After I sort this out I will to write relevant infos and possibly upload to the documentation or send it to the right person to publish it (Daniel?). Again thanks everybody (especially the developers), Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem for building a live cd
Hi all, Is a problem solvable via a particular configuration in the config directory or is a more hard problem ?? Bad mirror (or some strange networking error)? Debootstrap has failed. personally I couldn't find a way to use apt behind proxies. So using a Linux box in corporate environments I normally succeed (not always) in connecting to the Internet using their proxies, but I can't update my Debian box by using apt-get or aptitude. regards, Marco ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
[Fwd: DL Installer]
For who may concern, thanks for reading :-) I tried to contact premier Debian Live developer and got no answer. silence. Anyone's willing to send me a quotation for this? m Still I'm very sad Installer is not working and tried to ask how to debug: no answer :-( that will be focused next week, don't worry. Any news with the installer? I offer my help to test it and debug it, just let me know how can we proceed. Do you mind if I offer a sponsorship for it? What would be the most appropriate way of paying this feature to Debian Live in your opinion? Much thanks for your time and hope to hear from you soon. Marco Ghirlanda ArtistX Team ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: HDD installation from Live CD
Sebastian Hilbert wrote: On Donnerstag 08 Mai 2008, Daniel Baumann wrote: Sebastian Hilbert wrote: I included the Debian installer and used it inside vmware. When finished it drops me in a login shell. if you use 'regular' d-i, then regular d-i is what you get, means, you end up with the same d-i behaviour as on the debian install cds. so no surprise there. Is there any way to tell it to install exactly like on the CD (like GUI , XFCE setup ) ? if you set LH_DEBIAN_INSTALLER=live, then it will use the live-installer udeb inside d-i, making d-i installing the squashfs to the hd rather than bootstraping the regular way from .deb packages. however, it is said that there are still some glitches there and then when using live-installer, don't expect it working yet but you're encouraged to try it, and report bugs and send patches. I set LH_DEBIAN_INSTALLER=live. The resulting iso is a lot smaller then when using the original d-i. The CD works ok for the live part but does not react to typing install at the boot prompt. I have the exact problem building ArtistX (Sid repositories). What should happen using the LH_DEBIAN_INSTALLER=live option? Should we see a Install button on the desktop? Following my last mail I verified that a clean build (only added to a gnome-core base iceweasel and icedove) won't boot into X except under Vmware, VirtualBox or other virtualization software. On physical computers I get an [EMAIL PROTECTED] prompt and only a startx or sudo gdm will start Gnome. Any other experiencing this? I will try on Testing today and let you know if this is Sid-related. Thanks, Marco ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Problems building on Ubuntu my ArtistX 0.5
Hi all, working for ArtistX 0.5 (Sid) on Ubuntu Feisty with Debian Live v.47 I have this two little problems: - putting a LOT (2000) .deb in the chroot_local_packages dir stops Live Helper with a argument too long error. Same is if I move during the interactive phase all my debs in chroot/var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i *.deb. I guess this is not Live Helper related (cp gives me the same error, I have to use nautilus as root...). Workaround: move all necessary debs in chroot's apt cache and then just fire up aptitude in the interactive shell and install ONEbyONE (sigh!) all necessary packages. - My final iso works only in the Virtual World (Vmware Server, Virtualbox) at Vga 640x480. On ANY other computer I've tried (Laptop Thinkpad T42p, HP63xx series, assembled ones and Desktops: Asus P1, Assembled Athlon) it will bring me down to a full shell on the live system (not busybox) and I can start X by doing: sudo gdm and then it will work just fine. Workaround: None for the moment (tried to install sequentially or all together mdetect, discover1, acpid with no luck). Any hints really appreciated, I wasn't seeing this on older ArtistX releases. I'm starting thinking again to a GUI (Live Magic is far too complicate for Joe user). No other features except (in any order): - step 1 choose your distro (Stable, Testing and Unstable) - step 2 select copy three files for graphic customization (splash.png of isolinux, background.png for splashy and debian-blueish-wallpaper.svg for gnome wallpaper) - step 3 launch aptitude and let he user add software - step 4 interactive shell - step 5 chose distro name, hostname, username and pwd (ArtistX in the isolinux menu and as the username and hostname) I definitely think this would be a success between distro customizers and a great occasion to sponsor Debian Live and bring it to the attention of Linux users. How long would it take to do a such thing in GTK? How much would it cost? Is it possible to sponsor it? Any guys willing to collaborate on this?... Regards, Marco Ghirlanda ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Simple GUI
Erwan Le Gall wrote: So... I'm asking you if you see something missing that you want to found in this application. A particular option, a hook script that's you found useful... At this moment our first things to do before deliver is : -i18n -some hooks scripts -some client options to delete/rework -your ask :) 1) Graphic customization (Grub, Splashy, Desktop - metacity border, gtk controls, icons) as done in Reconstructor for Ubuntu 2) Add external sources to sources.list before AND after building 3) Use an external pc to do the job (nobody wants it's pc to sit down as it is slowed down during remastering). Many others, but these things are 100% necessary. Feel free to ask any question and if I can help, I am very interested into your soft. I even dare to say that the lack of a COMPLETE GUI is one of the main lacks of this project and for sure limiting it's diffusion between non tech. I would like to see thousands of Live CD based on Debian, but there are far more based on Ubuntu thanks to simple gui's like Reconstructor ( http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ ) or UCK ( http://uck.sourceforge.net/ ) Cheers all and keep the great work! Marco Ghirlanda ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Making small modifications and rebuild
Hi all, I'm building many times during these days and some questions came to my mind. I got that if I leave the cache directory between remastering LH will use those debs already downloaded. BUT if I just want to make small modifications and rebuild, like when you are refining the cd adding apps, making symlinks ...which is the best way to go? Normally I would delete .stage/binary* and do a lh_build again but maybe there is a better way? I'm following this steps: 1) Build a Lenny based (Sid won't go in X) and add custom apps (multimedia for artistx) changing user, hostname etc. Grub works, isolinux not (eltorito error) 2) Change default gnomekde splashscreens and wallpaper (everything is in chroot/usr/share/images) 3) Add Splashy from Unstable in chroot and change splashy background (chroot/etc/splashy/...) At this point I'm quite satisfied :-). Now I'm trying to find a way to customize gnome/kde appearance like in artistx 0.3 but somehow I cannot remember how I did. Are the instructions on the wiki still valid FAQ nr.13 on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ ?? I fon't get the point where I need to have a ./home/casper directory. My username will be artistx so why can't I put .kde and .kderc (and .gconfd .gnome2 ...) in chroot/etc/skel and be fine? Thanks to everybody on the list for this beautiful project and keep on the great work! Marco ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Making small modifications and rebuild
Damian Lubosch wrote: Marco Ghirlanda wrote: Hi all, I'm building many times during these days and some questions came to my mind. I got that if I leave the cache directory between remastering LH will use those debs already downloaded. BUT if I just want to make small modifications and rebuild, like when you are refining the cd adding apps, making symlinks ...which is the best way to go? Normally I would delete .stage/binary* and do a lh_build again but maybe there is a better way? I'm following this steps: 1) Build a Lenny based (Sid won't go in X) and add custom apps (multimedia for artistx) changing user, hostname etc. Grub works, isolinux not (eltorito error) 2) Change default gnomekde splashscreens and wallpaper (everything is in chroot/usr/share/images) 3) Add Splashy from Unstable in chroot and change splashy background (chroot/etc/splashy/...) At this point I'm quite satisfied :-). Now I'm trying to find a way to customize gnome/kde appearance like in artistx 0.3 but somehow I cannot remember how I did. Are the instructions on the wiki still valid FAQ nr.13 on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ ?? I fon't get the point where I need to have a ./home/casper directory. My username will be artistx so why can't I put .kde and .kderc (and .gconfd .gnome2 ...) in chroot/etc/skel and be fine? Thanks to everybody on the list for this beautiful project and keep on the great work! Marco Hi! One small thing: If you want to put in some additional files on your CD then please put them in config/chroot-local_includes. I.E. you want different /etc/skel then put the adjusted dir into [livecd]/config/chroot-local_includes/etc/skel. My usual way to rebuild CDs is to lh_clean first (careful! This deletes you chroot!!! But also .stages. It only keeps config and cache) and then to lh_build. To install new packages I add them to [livecd]/config/chroot (file) in the section LH_PACKAGES=emacs less mc ... You can also put some extra .deb files into [livecd]/config/chroot-local_packages so that they will be installed during the build. (Take care of the dependencies though ;-) ) I think that putting files into the chroot is not a clean way to build the CD. This way it takes (me) about 10-15 minutes for a new CD build but it is clean afterwards. Nice way, I'm trying it by NOW :-) I'll make another question which I' sure it has already been discussed but I didn't found it in the wiki. Groups. How to add my username to the netdev or other groups I may need to be included? I don't do it in the chroot because the user artistx is not present yet, in the configuration files there is no mention of groups and so? Thanks for the tips, Marco ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Bug#423012: Confirmed
I confirm this bug on my machine (Debian Unstable). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Roadmap to live-helper 1.0
Daniel , sb* binary images * grub (i386/amd64) boot support on net binary images * multi-binary builds in one shot the following I'd like to add: * vmware binary image flavour * usb-zip binary image flavour * support splitted/partial squashfs images * a fetch everything, then build option * introduce package groups Live installer? Can't we do a bounty and sponsor a developer to work on this? How much time would it take IYHO? Just my two cents, egoistically sent in the bit (many ArtistX users are asking about this, so I've had to put a Debian to ArtistX tutorial on the ArtistX site). Regards, Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Roadmap to live-helper 1.0
Daniel, so, don't worry about it for the long-term (aka lenny), thanks Daniel. SUPERCLEAR. Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: live.debian.net 'unaccessible' because of DNS changes
Daniel , it /should/ already be ok again by now for most people. works for me in Italy. Cheers, Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: G-I , D-I
Alex, Is that you are including a Debian installer (D-I)? But if it's that I don't understand G-I ;-) D-I = Debian Installer G-I = Graphical Debian Installer = D-I GUI install thanks so much for detailing ;-) So are we going to have it in Debian Live.? Isn't against rule n.3? Personally I really would like to have the installer into my live dvd because ArtistX user are asking this obsessively, Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: G-I , D-I
Daniel, but that requires some time to work it out, and that's why rule 3 is there to let people know it will not happen so soon. thanks so much for the clear and detailed explanation. I understand that it has to be done correctly and so I'll wait patiently and help in testing for sure when it's done. In the meanwhile I'm suggesting to ArtistX users to install a plain Debian and upgrade it to ArtistX (http://artistx.org/site/artistx-dvd-user-manual/how-to-install-artistx.html) and find out that many of them are: 1) Succeeding in doing this quite easily 2) Learning a lot as Linux/Debian newbies and thanking me... I know they should thank you and Marco and all the guys here who have contributed. A big thanks from me as if it was directly from them ;-) Good night Debianlivers, Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Daniel, you are right, sorry. Let's see asking for it to Bernardini... Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Hi Daniel, Hi Marco, 1) A multimedia/desktop oriented kernel like the one in 64Studio or here: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/kernel/n I believe Musix now uses the 64 Studio kernel packages, so that's one less variable ;-) Ubuntu Studio is not going for a Molnar-style RT kernel, according to an interview with Cory Kontros I read. Nice, but I was meaning having it into the official Debian archive, not in an external repository. I know many people who use Ubuntu kernel on Debian for its responsiveness and this is a bit strange. IMHO Debian should install a desktop friendly kernel if the user chose during the installation the Desktop task. Does it make sense? The reason why this has not been made already it's a secret to me, and a even weirder one. I believe it's because in the mainstream, audio on GNU/Linux has mostly been addressed from the point of view of a so-called 'consumer'. So distros have tried to solve questions like How do I make my iPod work out of the box, so I can re-arrange my collection of Britney Spears downloads? rather than How do I tune my kernel and OS for maximum performance when tracking 24 channels over my ADAT interface? I love Britney, especially after she shaved everywhere... ;-) Poor girl... I believe free software has a role to play in providing serious, reliable tools to the people that need them, in order to enable and enhance their creativity. Among other free software advocates, there is an argument that says we need to chase the tail-lights of OS X and Windows Vista in providing a slick 'consumer' experience, which has very little to do with RT kernels or tools like jackd. Responsiveness, always IMHO, is exactly the point. I get lots of question from people saying two things: 1) a default Linux installation is less snappy (responsive) than a fresh Windows install (in example using the same software like Audacity) BUT 2) they all see easily that Linux doesn't get slower also if you add thousands of packages (no defrag needed, as we all know) and the two things in a way are inexplicable to them. Short version: 1) Include in Debian a Multimedia/Desktop Kernel 2) Make Jackd usable out of the box or after the installation of a normal package In any way I want to make clear that my questions/suggestions are based only on a personal point of view/experience and in no way I have the rights/merit to contrast your opinions. Free as in speech... Regards, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ArtistX + Debian Live on Distrowatch
Daniel Baumann wrote: Marco Ghirlanda wrote: based on the new code of Debian Live oh, thanks for the advertisment :) Are you serious? Thanks to you guys! You're doing a workl I've dreamt of for years now! May I add directly the link to the homepage of DL? of course. Which one? http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ or http://live.debian.net/ ? cheers, marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: the right place
Eric Crastes wrote: If need advise in french ;-) you can contact me directly you francophone are always grouping :-) long live Esperanto ;-) m ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Example of a GUI for remastering
http://reconstructor.aperantis.com ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: [patch] casper: configure gksu+kdesu to use sudo
Guys I've been playing all night long with the new live-helper system. I have just one word: thanks. I understand as Daniel told on the list that is far from being perfect but it's a major step forward for this project. Practically easy of customization has scaled x10. Every operation is now modular, I cannot stop experimenting... ...stop me :-) Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Saving GUI settings inside the ISO
Marco, launching your cd, customize it, then use the snapshot feature to build a squashfs out of /cow, then remaster oputting this squash on /casper dir on the iso. Seems very nice, is it documented somewhere? Can you give us a start? Seems like the way I was looking for! :-) It is not yet user friendly, I know, but it will became easier and easier in the future to do that. If you need any help in testing this is real ok for me. Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Saving GUI settings inside the ISO
Gracie wrote: Hello, What is the best way to save parameters from a GUI to the final ISO file? For example, firefox defaults to saving downloads to the desktop. I'd like to change it to Ask where to save files and have that setting saved in the final ISO file. I'd also like to have my custom firefox bookmarks in the final ISO file. Look in the Debian Wiki here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ this is the FAQ of the Debian Live project. I just added the How to customize the KDE/GNOME...look? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ#head-7d03f9e08f54289930ba9f9ce2166488542988ab which is based heavily on a mail on this list by Marcelo :-) Big thanks to him, if he wants to add something here... Marco ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
List of Live CD based on Debian Live
Had in idea today talking to another dev of live cd about DL. Why don't we put on the wiki links to the live cd done with DL with a short description, the link and a screenshot? In my case, I would put also my conf file if possible. My project is www.artistx.org I think it maybe a good way of getting the thing outside to people. In a way DL is WAY better than current projects for making live cd's. Just my two cent :-) Marco Ghirlanda ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: menu gnome - debian etch
Firebeam wrote: itom wrote: ti va di testare il menu di kde? quello di kde da me si apre subito :( Provato ora, ci mette una frazione di secondo anche a me. Ciao a tutti. Piccola premessa: sono uno gnomo da tanti anni. Ma il menu' di gnome e nautilus quando browsa cartelle con migliaia di file (specie grafici o multimediali) non li mando proprio giu'. Le loro controparti in kde sono velocissime. per fare una prova, provate a riempire una cartella con migliaia di foto, create un nuovo utente per evitare che usi delle icone in cache e apritela in una nuova sessione di gnome o kde. In Gnome mi si blocca la macchina e devo terminare Nautilus, in Kde aspetti 10 sec. More info here: http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/scientific3/docs/gnome-slow.shtml and here: -- Per REVOCARE l'iscrizione alla lista, inviare un email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con oggetto unsubscribe. Per problemi inviare un email in INGLESE a [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ArtistX, an intro...
Hello guys sorry for crossposting on other lists (Piksel), my name is Marco Ghirlanda and I'm folow this list for a while now. I wanted to tell you about a project we are running with some friends based on my former work at the Mediainlinux project. ArtistX (www.artistx.org) is a Debian Live DVD containing more than 1500 softwares for multimedia production. Is far from the stability and robustness of some other media distributions but it's just started: 0.2 :-) The goal is to improve the multimedia side of Debian and introduce new users to GNU/Linux in a completely free environment (no patents encumbered softwares). Feel free to submit comments, critics and suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a nice day and a nice download :-) MG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Change Gnome or Kde graphics
There's an option in make live for including images but it's undocumented but still I would by far prefer the Knoppix way of customization (on the graphical part). We have been including into my former project Mediainlinux using Xnest at the last of the scripts (before compressing the ISO). Any difference or clues on this?: Launching KDE to Change Menus, Icons, etc. While you are in the chroot environment you can load KDE and use the configuration tools to change buttons, icons, etc. Once you are finished you can exit KDE and copy /home/knoppix to /etc/skel to keep these changes. To load KDE do the following. 1. If you are not at runlevel 2 (i.e. if you are already in KDE), switch to runlevel 2. * init 2 2. Copy /etc/skel to /home/knoppix * cp -Rp /etc/skel /home/knoppix 3. Change permissions to the user 'knoppix' * chown knoppix:knoppix -R /home/knoppix 4. Copy over your X11 configuration to the chroot'd environment (press ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to a non-chroot'd terminal, then ctrl+alt+F1 to switch back when done) * cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/hda1/knx/source/KNOPPIX/etc/X11 5. (Optional)Switch to user 'knoppix'. If you want to uninstall packages, stay as root -- e.g. skip this step. If you want to configure the buttons, icons, background, etc., that you see when KDE boots, be sure to do this step. * su knoppix 6. Launch KDE * startx 7. Do your KDE changes 8. Exit KDE 9. (Optional - do this step only if you did step #5) Exit su and switch back to user 'root'. * exit 10. Copy /home/knoppix back to /etc/skel to keep the changes * mv /etc/skel /etc/skel-old mv /home/knoppix /etc/skel 11. Set the owner back to root * chown root:root -R /etc/skel 12. Remove the xorg.conf file * rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Change Initial Splash Screen background
Anthony Godshall wrote: The knoppix remastering wiki, if I recall correctly, has good instructions on how to create an rle file. It worked for me the last time I customized knoppix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Ghirlanda Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:57 AM To: debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org Subject: Change Initial Splash Screen background Hello everybody! Any advice on changing the splash with live image red image? There is a .rle in templates which I think it's the file but rletopnm gives me a beautiful segfault :-) What is the creation process of this? Thanks in advance, Marco Ghirlanda speaking about this? May I just rename logo.16 to logo.rle? thanks for the tip :-) still maybe the devs here can explain something. I will add to the wiki if they think it's worth. Changing the boot graphic The 'boot graphic' is the first image you see when the CD or DVD boots. It looks similar to ASCII art and it is normally something flashy that says 'Knoppix'. You can change this to be any graphic that you please, but you must use a 640x480 graphic that has only 16 colors. 1. Change to the /mnt/hda1/knx/master/boot directory. Swap '/mnt/hda1/' for whatever disk you are using. * cd /mnt/hda1/knx/master/boot 2. Back up your old logo in case you break things. * mv logo.16 logo.16.backup 3. Make a 640x480 pixel 16 color graphic and save it as a GIF, e.g. 'logo.16.gif'. GIMP can easily do this. Note, you can use a graphic that originally had more than 16 colors, but it is critical that you conver the graphic to 16 colors before doing the next step. 4. Convert the GIF to lss16 using the tools included on the Knoppix CD. * giftopnm 640x400x16.gif logo.ppm ppmtolss16 logo.ppm logo.16 ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Debugging Make-Live and helping sorting out things
Hi Daniel, just a note to make sure I just wanted to help this project. Immediately I would say there's a huge need of documentation (which I can collaborate to write), in a way that newbies like me (in fact I'm not a dev at all) will not leave this with a sense of unfinished/immature. If Sid and his continuous changes are the problem this should be stated clearly on the home page AND the wiki like this everybody will know devs are already conscious about this. A blinking dot (red for now it will fail the build and green now it will build at least with gnome-core) would be and extraordinary plus adn a sign of vitality. Just my two cents :-) Keep on with this great work and let me know if I can help in any way. Marco ___ live mailing list live@lists.debian-unofficial.org http://lists.debian-unofficial.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/live
Make Live fails after installing two kernels
As of today here's what I get: Setting up linux-image-2.6.16-2-486 (2.6.16-15) ... Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/source However, I can not read the target: No such file or directory Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/source Running depmod. Finding valid ramdisk creators. Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk. Setting up squashfs-modules-2.6.16-2-486 (3.0-5) ... Setting up squashfs-modules-2.6-486 (3.0-5) ... Setting up unionfs-modules-2.6.16-2-486 (1.1.4+20060530.0122+debian-2) ... WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory Setting up unionfs-modules-2.6-486 (1.1.4+20060530.0122+debian-2) ... basename: extra operand `.postinst' Try `basename --help' for more information. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure If I remember correctly the script was downloading only one kernel, now it does 2.6.17 and 2.6.16 one after another. Then it suddenly fails with the above error regarding the basename. This script is going to get me crazy :-) Happy hacking! MG ___ live mailing list live@lists.debian-unofficial.org http://lists.debian-unofficial.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/live
make-live iso kde-core won't start X
Ciao everybody, I was so pleased two months ago to give the subject command and end having a debian live system working flawlessy on my TP42P. Since a bunch of updates (I think the only one working for me was the first .deb) the ISO generated won't start X neither on Qemu or Vmware. Am I missing something? I tried with kde-core and gnome-core with no success: all I get starting X manually (startx) is: (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (Qemu) (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:0:0) found (Vmware) so I'm really stuck (chrooting is NOT the solution for me). Any advice really appreciated. I also think this should be on the project page like a WARNING because many people I know are leaving their tests of this project with a sense of buggy which in fact is not at all. Infact I think the easyness of this software was it's best functionality. Forgive me if I'm doing something wrong. :-) Best wishes, Marco Ghirlanda ___ live mailing list live@lists.debian-unofficial.org http://lists.debian-unofficial.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/live
Re: Update: Scheduling another freeze of Jack-related packages
Hi all, I would like you to know that Medialinux 2 is out for download on www.opensourcelab.it Any bug, suggestion or info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Marco Ghirlanda
Re: Legality of .DEBS in Medialinux.
Knoppix should be distributing the source from the same location that you would get the CD, so its still compliant with the GPL. Really I couldn't find the sources of Knoppix anywhere. The fact seems that it is necessary for correct application of the GPL, but it is not respected so much indeed. So I have to publish for every *.deb a *-src.deb? The real issue comes when you are handing out or selling binary only cds. Those need to have a written offer for source valid for three years (for the GPL) I would point to the Debian Source, is it right? , or the source needs to be available at the same time for no extra cost. This I don't understand. Seems like I have to create an ISO with only the sources. Is there a program who download the sources for a given list of packages? Not to seem un-ethical, but if MrKnoppix doesn't do this, why should I do it (I mean publish the sources cd) that I am a much smaller and derivative project? Anyway I'm still considering this possibility, cause Medialinux was born as a project for the students of our school, but it looks like it has many possibilities more... I'm just very sorry I have to tell to my users that they will not use this to look at their payed DVD, 'cause they have to pay for the software again. And that I need the double of the space on the server (that in our case is hosting us for free, in pure Linux tradition) to put also the sources. Thanks so much, Marco Ghirlanda
Re: Legality of .DEBS in Medialinux.
First of all thank you! [Marco: The primary function of this list is to discuss licenses and the legal ramifications of those licenses. As none (or almost none) of us are lawyers, we cannot give legal advice. The following is not legal advice either.] Sorry for expressing myself in the wrong way. I just asked a point to the right direction... Mahesh T. Pai told me to look at the Debian Policy Manual, wich I found so much interesting and wich I'm currently reading. There may be a legal risk. I have no idea about Italy's laws, but there remains a very real possibility that libdvdcss will be actionable under the DMCA in the US. So most of all Knoppix Based Distro's are on charge for this in the US? Will they come to me and ask for money? And if I have to distributer the source, then Knoppix itself it infringing this? Anyway I was thinking of removing the dvd libraries by myself, cause I can't figure out how it is going to go... As far as we know, packages in main are legal to distribute pretty much everywhere. You may need to remove the encryption parts in certain countries, although I don't think that applies to Italy. Still the server is in the US, so I think this applies. However, as most of us are not attorneys, and as such, not allowed to practice law in Italy, you should probably consider approaching someone knowledgeable in the laws of your locality who can give you more detailed and accurate information regarding the laws and how they interact with software. Sorry, but I just asked. I just wanted to know if there was a list that would go beyond the official main, contrib and non-free distinctions to help people like to me not to have to pay for a lawyer... ;-) It seems that my next CD is going to be more GPL compliant, anyway. At least is what I understand from your answers, Thank you again, Marco Ghirlanda
Legality of .DEBS in Medialinux.
Hi, I'm Marco Ghirlanda, Linux Advisor at the Virtual Reality and Multi Media Park of Turin, Italy. (www.vrmmp.it). We developed for our Open Source Lab (www.opensourcelab.it) a remastered version of the Knoppix Live Cd, Medialinux, wich includes most ot the audio, graphic and video software that is in the Debian collection of packages. This Cd was primarly done for testing purposes and to make our students try the linux + multi media softwares without too many problems. I've included many software from external repositories, but I didn't take care (until now) about the legal conseguences of this action. The fact is that I would like to know if there is a legal risk, in Italy or in the world to distribute on a cd .deb's from http://marillat.free.fr/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/ (like libdvdcss2 or mplayer, or w32codecs, and so on...). To be sure would I need to remove all this software and include only packages from the main section (excluding also contrib and non-free sections?). I'm surely a bit confused... Full list of packages is at ftp://209.50.230.46/medialinux/debs(list_of_software).txt I'm very new to this part of the Linux Story and I will like some advices on where to start Thanks in advance to everybody who is going to answer this post, Marco Ghirlanda
