he beholdeth justice in injustice, and in justice, grace.
Seven Valleys, p. 12
That God-born Force, irresistible in its sweeping power, incalculable in
its potency, unpredictable in its course, mysterious in its workingssuch
a Force, acting even as a
Brent,
This servant offers one perspective on the ramifications of this verse:
If we take Baha'u'llah literally when He says to be detached from all
things, we put things into a different perspective.
Likewise, when we disregard all things current amongst men, we perceive
that all that is
Ten thousand Prophets, each a Moses, are thunderstruck upon the Sinai of
their search at His forbidding voice, Thou shalt never behold Me!; whilst
a myriad Messengers, each as great as Jesus, stand dismayed upon their
heavenly thrones by the interdiction, Mine Essence thou shalt never
Brent,
I know that you are familiar with the quote in which the Guardian likens the
Word to a sphere, which has points that are poles apart, but which are
connected by the thoughts and doctrines that are between them.
In the Gems of Divine Mystery, He alludes to the contingent world of
Brent,
In like manner, those words that have streamed forth from the source of
power and descended from the heaven of glory are innumerable and beyond the
ordinary comprehension of man.
(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 5)
Baha'u'llah also states that there are innumerable meanings
66. O CHILDREN OF THE DIVINE AND INVISIBLE ESSENCE!
Ye shall be hindered from loving Me and souls shall be perturbed as they
make mention of Me. For minds cannot grasp Me nor hearts contain Me.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)
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Khazeh wrote:
The more you read all the Bahai writings [impossible to do in one life time
! as there are literally thousands and thousands of Divine Tablets] the more
you become convinced that the Bahai teachings have a way of harmonizing and
even TRANSCENDING both sides of this two thousand year
Dear Friends,
Re-reviewing the messages of the Universal House of Justice since the
beginning of the 5YP is very insightful. In its message dated 9 January 2001
to the Conference of the Continental Board of Counsellors, the Supreme Body
notes that the continued development of training
Dear David,
A guideline can be established by the following Persian Hidden Word (#3):
Treasure the companionship of the righteous and eschew all fellowship with
the ungodly.
Fellowship, of course, can be seen in many ways.
The bottom line is: do the things you watch make you feel uplifted? Do
Does anyone know how to contact (by email) the people that produce Ocean?
Or can someone point out a link to them on the Ocean/Baha'i Education
website?
James
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Thanks
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Subject: Re: punishment of crimes - was arson.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:38:51 -0600
James,
At 10:30 AM 1/25/2005, you wrote:
What is the basis of this statement?
Thanks Susan. From experience at the Baha'i National Center (and keeping up
with those statistics during that time) their availability in the US is
known. On the International level, they would be interesting.
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Dear Friends,
Can someone please point out where any type of warfare is condoned?
It occurs to this mind that many statements have been made opposing war,
such as
In the new age Baha'o'llah has prohibited war.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 45)
Every war is against the good
Your in danger of falling off your high horses.
No one is making any judgmental assumptions about anyone (specifically). In
fact, this reader would not have known who posted the comment about Paul
until others mentioned specific names. This comment was made:
Yes, this is one of the
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Sent: 18 January 2005 18:56
To: Baha'i Studies
Subject: A Freudian Slip
It just occurred to this poster that a Freudian Slip was inadvertently made
in a recent post about Paul Lample. The word inciteful
Yes, this is one of the difficulties I find and that is that one of the
principal publishers of the Ruhi materials is Palabra Publications which is
associated with Paul Lample who is one of the staunchest supporters and
promoters of the Study Circle engine on the ITC. I wonder too if there
are
The opposite would also be true. Areas where Baha'is are very active in
study circles might experience large-scale growth just because they have
active Baha'is to begin with, not because of Ruhi. I expect to see high
growth, for instance, in the triangle area of North Carolina which is very
It just occurred to this poster that a Freudian Slip was inadvertently made
in a recent post about Paul Lample. The word inciteful was inadvertently
written instead of insightful. This slip, however, has significance to
this poster.
During the period in which this soul had the pleasure
This avoids the fact that Ruhi is not the process. Study Circles are the
process and Ruhi is just ONE system of study.
The quote was: Ruhi is ABOUT process...it was never stated that Ruhi IS
the process. But the point remains, Ruhi encourages a process, which is the
key. Study circles, like
I've heard this accusation alot from Bahais but I don't believe it is
valid. I think there is a very big and clear distinction between
saying that God can't do something and that God didn't do something.
Dear Gilberto,
The Jews never said God couldn't literally do something. They were
basically
Dear Friends:
I, for one, have been directly involved in the review process (as a
reviewer). From my perspective, review is in no way a form of censorship,
but is, instead, a means of preventing gross errors.
For example, I have seen works (which will remain unnamed) that had
questionable
A previous message stated:
literal interpretation of a specific very
...that was supposed to be speicific verse
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It's the same here in Thailand and most of South East Asian countries.
There
has been much emphasis on Ruhi classes and hence the teaching and enrollment
has
stopped.
I recently read a recent report noting one cluster in Cambodia that has
grown from 500 Baha'is to over 2000, in a relatively
even where they contradict known laws of nature and common sense
What is a known law? If you had asked people 600 years ago, they would
have proven to you that the world is flat.
We cannot accept things known today as scientific fact.
Mathematicians, astronomers, chemical scientists
Ron wrote:
Do you see my point?
Your point is understood. This non-scientific mind, however, would assert
that nothing is final.
There is but one power which heals -- that is God. The state or condition
through which the healing takes place is the confidence of the heart. By
some this state
Mark wrote:
I am saying that texts, irrespective of whether we know the language, have
no meaning.
Mark, the Word has unlimited meaning
Know assuredly that just as thou firmly believest that the Word of God,
exalted be His glory, endureth for ever, thou must, likewise, believe with
undoubting
Dear David,
You wrote:
I'm currently perplexed, as while the House is infallible in guidance I
have difficulty in seeing it as such in recent times. I want to make it
clear I'm not having any crisis of faith and unwilling to accept that the
House is infallible. I just would like it's recent
Ron,
Your points are quite thought provoking. And, by the way, when it was previously stated that we can't know the condition of the martyrs thoughts or faith, thatwas not meant to contradict your comments in any way.it is simply to further highlight the uncertainty.
Ron further noted:
It
Ron,
Your most eloquent observation is thought provoking. Regarding the following passage from your comments:
This actually highlights the great honor and worth of those early
followers of new religions who suffered and were martyred for the
Cause. They took the supreme risk, for if they were
Dear David,
In my recent studies of the Writings, I have come to find a lot of paradoxessituations where two apparently conflicting statements are madesuch as "the most manifest of the manifest and the most hidden of the hidden", the two being opposites. I can cite numerous others too,
I sent out a post yesterday regarding my experience on the John Ankerberg show twenty years ago. I never received a copy of my postdid it make it to the board?
James
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There was apparently an interview on American Television about the Baha'i
faith
and Christianity.
The Protagonist for hristianity was Ankerberg and Martin
The Baha'i was Mary Kay Radpour James Mock.
When I look back (and that interview took place about 20 years ago), I let them shake
Beloved Khazeh,
As always, your eridition and wisdom shine forth like the sun. Your references show a consistency of thought and logic.
This one has been incapable of recognizing where the Guardian "admitted" "confusion" on this issue.
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Mark, I'll just ask the point that confuses me in this manner: you say: "Why would he admit to confusing the two dogmas if he did not do so?" I ask: Where does he state that HE confused the two concepts?
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I think what Ahang is saying is that our present Baha'i conceptions are [not] necessarily relevant or useful for understanding Quddus himself. And I think we do have to take Quddus own self-understanding very seriously.
To a limited degree, this is reasonable. But it escapes this mind how one
Quddus represented himself, both in writing and apparently orally, as the return of Christ.
Can you please give examples of this?
Baha'u'llah often linked Quddus with Christ, for instance, stating that in his martyrdom no one suffered more than Quddus, "not even Christ".
Can you please give
I'm not about to start a discussion on the station of Quddus and the
concept of Manifestionhood in the Babi Faith (which is drastically
different than the same notion in the Baha'i Faith).These things have
been discussed previously on internet, where I've contributed extensively.
I suggest
Dear James
maybe if you look at this site you will find some information
it is in the Most Great website of Jonah Winters
http://bahai-library.com/uhj/letters.quddus.dawnbreakers.html
Many thanks! I appreciate your spirit of helpfulness.
James
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