Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-15 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:40:45 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G: And the point I'm making is that even from a Christian perspective, they aren't claiming finality for themselves in the same way that Muslims are. That in concrete ways they are actually open to future revelation and

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread JS
Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:48:03 -0800 (PST), JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: G: Just to try to explain more why I think it is reasonable to draw a distinction between exclusiveness and final, and perhaps why I see it as a real difference (and why Bahais seem

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:11:56 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J: I can't remember point of this theat anymore. But I thought it was to show that just as Christians believe in the Finality of the Bible and the Finality of Jesus, Muslims believe in the finality of Muhammad and the

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread JS
G: Yes, I understand that this is what Bahais are trying to say. ThatChristians have a concept of finality, but were wrong because Muhammadcame afterwards. So the point is to try to say that the Muslim conceptof finality is the same, and equally wrong, so it would make it moreplausible that

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread JS
G: And the point I'm making is that even from a Christian perspective,they aren't claiming finality for themselves in the same way thatMuslims are. That in concrete ways they are actually open to futurerevelation and future prophets and future messages. J: Gilberto, reading this again, I have

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread Mark A. Foster
Gilberto, At 09:34 AM 1/14/2005, you wrote: Just to try to explain more why I think it is reasonable to draw a distinction between exclusiveness and final, and perhaps why I see it as a real difference (and why Bahais seem not to) I would say this. I didn't say there weren't differences. I

Re: Exclusive/Final

2005-01-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:58:44 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G: Yes, I understand that this is what Bahais are trying to say. That Christians have a concept of finality, but were wrong because Muhammad came afterwards. So the point is to try to say that the Muslim concept of