Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-07 Thread Barmak Kusha
But Gilberto, As Baha'is, we recognize the Firm Handle ("urvat'ul vuthgha") of the Word of God, "the unerring balance." This is not something that can be "solved" outside of that, is it? If that were the case, then why would Baha'u'llah establish unerring proofs? Or am I looking at this from a

Re: ONE COMMON FAITH - Dominus Iesus, side-by-side common study (1)

2005-05-07 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Gilberto, you wrote: So for example, I realize and appreciate (really I do) that from your perspective the issue of who is or isn't Bahai is rather clear. But there are also other people claiming to be Bahai who don't necessarily meet your criteria. So implicitly or explicitly, you are

RE: The Hands withholding

2005-05-07 Thread Vaughn Sheline
-Original Message- From: Brent Poirier Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:35 AM I am interested, not in how God withholds gifts, but in how you friends see that the Hands of the Cause have withheld. Hi Brent, I think the implications of withheld is similar to the passages below. Best

RE: The Hands withholding

2005-05-07 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Brent, H, you mentioned looking at a particular section in context. My current reference is the document on Ocean - I've misplaced the book. Is there something I've missed that delineates sections of the Surih of the Temple? Fix your gaze upon Him Who is the *Temple of God* amongst

RE: The Hands withholding

2005-05-07 Thread Brent Poirier
Vaughn, super job of locating other references to withholding. Thank you, that's right on target and what I was looking for. Sandra, I quite agree that in this Tablet the Manifestation is addressing His own eyes, heart, ears and hands. But then, I believe He transitions into both viewing the

The spiritual process of drawing proofs from the objections

2005-05-07 Thread Brent Poirier
Should you acquaint yourself with the indignities heaped upon the Prophets of God, and apprehend the true causes of the objections voiced by their oppressors, you will surely appreciate the significance of their position. Moreover, the more closely you observe the denials of those who have

Re: One Common Faith

2005-05-07 Thread JS
Dear Khazeh and friends, I am interested in studying this text. I just skimmed through it and loved it. This is finals weeks so I cannot participate. Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One Common Faith has been placed on the web by Dr

Re: One Common Faith

2005-05-07 Thread JS
When was this document written, and what does it mean that it was 'comissioned' by the House?Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One Common Faith has been placed on the web by Dr Fosterhttp://bahaistudies.net/bwc/onecommonfaith.htmlOne Common FaithCommissioned by the Universal House of

RE: The Hands withholding

2005-05-07 Thread Don Calkins
At 13:35 + 5/7/05, Brent Poirier wrote: Sandra, I quite agree that in this Tablet the Manifestation is addressing His own eyes, heart, ears and hands. But then, I believe He transitions into both viewing the Hands of the Cause as His own hands; or alternatively says that He will raise up

the Mu'tazili school

2005-05-07 Thread Mark A. Foster
Here is an interesting site which attempts to revive the nominalist Mu'tazili school, which may have served as part of the historical context for Baha'u'llah's views: http://www.moatazilla.org/ Via moderna, Mark A. Foster • Portal: http://markfoster.net ... since [a] word is said to be

Wilmette Institute Course

2005-05-07 Thread Susan Maneck
The Wilmette Institute will be offering a three-month e-learning course titled The Baha'i Administrative Institutions: This Unique and Wondrous Systemstarting May 15. The National Spiritual Assembly has asked the friends in the United States to study the two arms of the administrative order-the

Re: the Mu'tazili school

2005-05-07 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Thanks. That was interesting. And at the same time really weird. A couple of things though: 1. It was my impression (at least this is what I've read, and I've never read anything different) that the historical Mutazilite school basically survived within 12-er Shiism. So I'm not sure what it

Re: One Common Faith

2005-05-07 Thread JS
Hi, I don't think my messages are getting through, so let me try again. This is a very interesting document, and I am interest in reading through this.This was written for Naw-Ruz 2005, right? Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One Common Faith has been placed on the web by Dr