Am Dienstag, den 01.04.2008, 22:07 +0800 schrieb Alex Zhang:
That is the point where a good build system comes into play.
OpenEmbedded handles this for us. I hope you don't build all the stuff
for your device by hand.
Yes, I did it by hand, because my device is based on MIPS. I
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
What do we need the CAN interface for?
We already know the speed before we enter the tunnel, and if the neo
is in a car holder in a stable position, calibrated with some
software, it knows from the accelerometers if we are driving strait
ahead or making a turn
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| Hi guys,
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| just got around to testing one (the 2nd one seems broken or unaccessible
| on my prototypes) of the Neo FreeRunner accellerometers.
|
| Apart from a bit of jitter, I think its pretty accurate
Can the usb board be used with the freerunner phone as well? How much
of a branch is the new firmware for freerunner going to end up being?
Matt
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| Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 09:57 +0100 schrieb Andy Green:
| We can wake up from one of the accelerometers and not the other -- which
| is likely okay for real use -- but there is no driver support or
Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 09:57 +0100 schrieb Andy Green:
We can wake up from one of the accelerometers and not the other -- which
is likely okay for real use -- but there is no driver support or API to
enable or disable it yet. I guess it can just expose something in /sys.
Agreed. Can
Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 09:57 +0100 schrieb Andy Green:
Sounds good. I am curious about what happens if you take that app for a
ride in your car. What does it show after you accelerated to cruising
speed and just go constantly along with it sat on the passenger seat?
If it stops to
It seems to me there is basically one number you can set, and then you
can decide if X, Y and/or Z go above or below that number makes an
interrupt. It looks like this number is absolute, ie, if you set it to
5 then going above or below 5 x 18mG in + or - will trigger it.
So you can almost
what if you become part of openmoko? Just sign some kind of work
contract (like other freelancers had and still have with openmoko),
but with only USD 1 in return for your work, adding a clause that you
keep the copyright on your work?
This way you are legally part of openmoko, have access
| So you can almost get what you are looking for, just that there is only
| one number allowed.
|
| Excellent! When do you have time to give that a go? :)
Right now... to be clear we talk about wake CPU from suspend with this?
100%, yeah.
Also is
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Date: 03rd April 2008 2:21 pm
what if you become part of openmoko? Just sign some kind of work
contract (like other freelancers
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| It seems to me there is basically one number you can set, and then you
| can decide if X, Y and/or Z go above or below that number makes an
| interrupt. It looks like this number is absolute, ie, if you
I notice you mention only one chip is currently working as isr source.
But isn't there two independently configurable pins connected to irqs
from that one chip? I didn't dig into the schematic, not sure.
Matt
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I like this idea, I think this is legally OK and if we are open and
honest about it, may even become an accepted practice known to our
vendors.
Need to do some more checks on that...
Wolfgang
On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Harald Welte wrote:
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:32:31AM +0100, Tom
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:37 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Hi guys,
just got around to testing one (the 2nd one seems broken or unaccessible
on my prototypes) of the Neo FreeRunner accellerometers.
Both seem to work on my prototype (GTA02v5), as long as X isn't running.
If I start my X
I think it would be the best way...
And why is it not fair?
He would be a real part of the project. What's wrong with that?
cheers
Sebastian
Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 23:17 +0800 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul:
I like this idea, I think this is legally OK and if we are open and
honest about
Hi there!
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen...
I got the following idea:
If you can't find you moko, you only have to send an SMS with a special
keyword/passphrase to your moko.
It recognises the special text and sends the current coordinates to a
server. So
Dear Hervé,
here is my perspective:
Most chip vendors see their business in selling chips. Documentation
is just a necessary evil to them, they are trying to get away with the
minimum amount of documentation that will still sell the chip.
Unless in very few cases, chip vendors do not see good
Some days ago I was thinking something about this.
My idea was this:
1. An application to install (who want) on openmoko. It is running as a
deamon. Configure very simple like username, password, server.
2. If it is running, check if there is connection. If yes, it send his
mac and gps
Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
Hi there!
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen...
I got the following idea:
If you can't find you moko, you only have to send an SMS with a special
keyword/passphrase to your moko.
It recognises the special text and sends the
Hi.
Very good Idea !
just : if it has been stolen, the sim card will be changed. So may be,
each time the sim card is changed, an sms could automatically be send to
another number (so you have the new phone number and can continue to
communicate with it ...). Or, if gprs works, maybe a post can
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen...
I got the following idea:
If you can't find you moko, you only have to send an SMS with a special
keyword/passphrase to your moko.
It recognises the special text and sends the current coordinates to a
server. So
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| On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:37 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
| Hi guys,
|
| just got around to testing one (the 2nd one seems broken or unaccessible
| on my prototypes) of the Neo FreeRunner
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen...
I got the following idea:
If you can't find your moko, you only have to send an SMS with a
special keyword/passphrase to your moko.
It recognises the special text and sends the current coordinates
Or it could be programmed to send this GPS-locating message to the
server each time the SIM card is changed, for the ultra-paranoid.
Matt
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of
I think it would be quite likely that a phone thief/finder would
change the SIM, either because they want to use it themselves, or
because they want to sell it. I'd do the following:
Set up a script so that the phone regularly connects to a server you
control, downloads the contents of a folder
Could also put an FPGA between the processor and the display, and
maybe some developers will figure out how to accelerate the most
frequently used drawing functions. Just an idea... I know it's a long
shot and probably takes too much power too... but for a while there
was an open PCI video card
True, but frankly there's a lot of bad stuff that could happen if
someone malicious got that level of access to our servers...
On 03/04/2008, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Joseph Reeves wrote:
I think it would be quite likely that a phone
Really, it's intellectual property being sold. Skimping on docs is just trying
to sell less for more. It costs money to produce documentation and
documentation is regularly the final victim of tight schedules in the design
factory. The best docs do seem to be from companies that have
Why not merge all this ideas?
Could anyone try to implement this?
If not, I'll do it in summer (when I'll buy a freerunner;-))...
cheers
Sebastian
Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
True, but frankly there's a lot of bad stuff that could happen if
someone
Some days ago I was thinking something about this.
My idea was this:
1. An application to install (who want) on openmoko. It is running as a
deamon. Configure very simple like username, password, server.
2. If it is running, check if there is connection. If yes, it send his
mac and gps
I know from my experience with 3D accelerometers that there is a lot
of drifting. We would also need a filter to take away vibrations. But
I also know that some guys at my Uni. managed to keep a model
helicopter at the same position in the air by only using input from
the accelerometers and the
On 3 Apr 2008, at 17:58, Andy Green wrote:
neod has them both open, but the input subsystem should be okay with
that and you having them too. I think you need to make sure you have a
real recent kernel with the patch to improve locking for the service
routine.
Before I tried the test, I
On jue, 2008-04-03 at 18:30 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
Some days ago I was thinking something about this.
My idea was this:
1. An application to install (who want) on openmoko. It is running as a
deamon. Configure very simple like username, password, server.
2. If it is running, check
It looks like someone has done exactly what I want to do
http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home
Anyway, I will make my own hw and try to learn more about it.
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Lets not forget, you should be able to download the server software too, and
run it on your own server :)
/me points to the GPS location sharing project and thinks it could suite the
task with authentication.
Cheers,
Federico
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Mike Baroukh wrote:
Very good Idea !
just : if it has been stolen, the sim card will be changed. So may be,
each time the sim card is changed, an sms could automatically be send to
another number (so you have the new phone number and can continue to
communicate with it ...). Or, if gprs works,
I noticed that you guys were participating in the Google Summer of Code. I
also noticed a project that interests me:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Software:Ambient_Noise_Detection
I find this interesting because:
1. I want a feature like this
2. It deals with intelligent decision making
I would also recommend that some form of authentication and (optionally)
encryption be used on the data, in case you don't want the whole world to know
your location. That way, you could have your phone report home its position by
default, and if it gets stolen you just need to look to see
I'm also a student applying to Summer of Code (different project
though). I'd say, since the deadline is coming up quickly, at least get
an application in. If I recall correctly, there are a number of other
students apply for this project as well.
Also, the person(mickeyl) who is kind of
Hi Mickey,
Uh Oh... we have half a dozen of MIPS machines in OpenEmbedded. Building
all that stuff could have been done by:
MACHINE = mtx-1
DISTRO = openmoko
bitbake networkmanager
Thanks a million for your tip, I will have a try. :)
Cheers,
Alex
I think the original idea was a sensible one, but I doubt many would be
willing to risk losing all their data for the rare situation where it
would be a security advantage.
I think there is something to be said for nifty GPS features. I've lost
my phone... why not SMS it and ask it to email me
The idea of a homing beacon is pretty cool. I have to say, however
that havign a centralized place for this information to be stored
is... as politely as possible, stupid.
Asking Can we do something expresses creativity but requires a
should we do something. We know the device CAN do that,
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:48:56 -0400
Steven Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The questions I have for this project are:
1. Must the final result work on the phone? In other words can I
build the software on the PC and have it working on the PC with say
Mono/Java? 2. Is there a programming language
Taiwan CPE developers of WiMax (etc..) are looking for a new
OS/plateform ,
so their applications won't be limited .
We are planning
1.City surveillance (live project) --- installing digital camera
wirelessly sending clear image back to control center.
2.Remote
On Thursday 03 April 2008 11:25:17 pm Joseph Jon Booker wrote:
3. What is required to deem the project complete?
http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_evaluations
the evaluations determine if you get paid is the closest to what you're
thinking of, after all, good
Thank you
It seem to be what I was searching for: to follow a standard is always a
good idea :)
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I would also recommend that some form of authentication and (optionally)
encryption be used on the data, in case you don't want the whole world to know
your location.
According me the sms or email solution is not ok for this reason:
When I steal the phone, the first thing that I will do is to turn off
the phone. Then because I am afraid to be detected by cell I will change
the internal sim, before to turn on it.
So: we need something that periodically
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