Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Rhoades
radek On 2011-04-23 15:44, radek polak wrote: Since: linux-image-2.6.37-qtmoko-gta02_v34-1_armel.deb is v34, should: uImage.bin-2.6.37-qtmoko be installed along with: qi-v34.udfu and: qtmoko-debian-v34.ubi ? (I currently have the v35 stuff installed). You can use it also with v35.

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread dmatthews.org
I tried it but then I can't get a USB connection to 192.168.0.202 . . which I need for x11vnc etc . . I'm finding that is problematical with the stable v35 kernel also; the only way I can make the desktop recognize a usb0 is by rebooting it with the phone already connected. That is not

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread dmatthews.org
Here's an illuminating article about a (well known) alternative to an open phone. :) http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news22-04-11.php#rotten -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Rhoades
dmatthews, On 2011-04-23 17:12, dmatthews.org wrote: I tried it but then I can't get a USB connection to 192.168.0.202 . . which I need for x11vnc etc . . I'm finding that is problematical with the stable v35 kernel also; the only way I can make the desktop recognize a usb0 is by rebooting

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, April 21, 2011 a las 10:10:37AM +, Niels Heyvaert escribió: Hi all, To those of you who didn't see summary flying by on Linuxtoday.com, there is recent article published about the Openmoko:

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Toby D. Young
Greetings, I'm still using my FR as my daily and only cellphone (it still runs Om2008.9) and I'm happy with it, [...]. I am glad to see someone saying that :-) I am also using my freerunner (with QtMoko) as my only phone and I am also very happy with it. Of course, I also find a few

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 22 April 2011 09:56:07 Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm still using my FR as my daily and only cellphone (it still runs Om2008.9) and I'm happy with it, even if the battery is poor and lasts only 6-8 hours. But I don't care because I nearly always have my laptop or some external batteries

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani
I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and after 5 days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked. So it looks like freerunner is maybe one of the best smarphones as for battery life, Regards Radek WOW When will it be available for us?

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Philip Rhoades
Radek, On 2011-04-22 18:56, Radek Polak wrote: On Friday 22 April 2011 09:56:07 Matthias Apitz wrote: I'm still using my FR as my daily and only cellphone (it still runs Om2008.9) and I'm happy with it, even if the battery is poor and lasts only 6-8 hours. But I don't care because I nearly

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread pike
Hi I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and after 5 days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked. So it looks like freerunner is maybe one of the best smarphones as for battery life, Just for the record, I find that remarkable. I'm running

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 22 April 2011 11:04:29 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote: I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and after 5 days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked. So it looks like freerunner is maybe one of the best smarphones as for battery

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Philip Rhoades
Radek, On 2011-04-23 00:40, Radek Polak wrote: On Friday 22 April 2011 11:04:29 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote: I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and after 5 days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked. So it looks like freerunner is maybe

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread radek polak
Since: linux-image-2.6.37-qtmoko-gta02_v34-1_armel.deb is v34, should: uImage.bin-2.6.37-qtmoko be installed along with: qi-v34.udfu and: qtmoko-debian-v34.ubi ? (I currently have the v35 stuff installed). You can use it also with v35. Regards Radek

Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Hi all, To those of you who didn't see summary flying by on Linuxtoday.com, there is recent article published about the Openmoko: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/mowi/article.php/3931296/What-Happened-to-Real-Open-Source-Phones.htm I'm sure that after reading the article, you'll have the

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread Thomas Bellembois
Le 21/04/2011 12:10, Niels Heyvaert a écrit : Hi all, To those of you who didn't see summary flying by on Linuxtoday.com, there is recent article published about the Openmoko: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/mowi/article.php/3931296/What-Happened-to-Real-Open-Source-Phones.htm I'm sure that

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread SZENTE Balint
Hello! After reading the article, I think it is just a waste of time. The article does not even deserve to react on it. By commenting you just give importance to it and that's what the post seek. In my opinion it is just a confusing and lousy article with no relevant information to make a bit

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread Iain B. Findleton
The article pretty well sums up my experience with the GTA02, although I certainly have no regrets about buying one. All things considered, the idea of the machine was great, but it is really unfortunate that the performance, stability and general quality of the applications was somewhat below

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Balint, I think it is just a waste of time. Actually, I disagree. What the article's author is saying is what a lot of people outside the project have said, and with the GTA04 on the threshold of moving forward, I think it is time to start putting down the naysayers again. From my viewpoint

Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-21 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Unfortunately, I feel the struggle for a Linux phone is pretty much submerged by the Android phenomenon, which is in my opinion, too bad. Phone hardware that ran linux out of the box would be wonderful. It depends on what you mean by Linux. Personally I would like the GTA04 to run a Linux