Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-13 Thread Florian Boor
Hello, Jeff Andros schrieb: isn't maemo derived from OE too? no it isn't, but you can build packages for it using OE. Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-15 and the reality of tomorrow.

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-13 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:15:16PM +0100, joerg wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM,

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread David Pottage
On Tue, March 11, 2008 9:31 pm, Robin Paulson wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything available

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:29:30 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/03/2008, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and some other dependencies? if it's possible, there is always skype That is like asking if there is anything

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Jeff Andros
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N800 The operating system, Internet Tablet OS 2007 (also known as Maemo), is a modified version of Debian GNU/Linux (running Linux 2.6.18) isn't maemo derived from OE too? -- Jeff

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Denis
Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI to port anything to OpenMoko from it. 2008/3/12, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread mac2k
If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. Regards Julian On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:15:16 +0100 joerg

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Markus Schlichting
Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus 12. März 2008 23:27:56 Denis wrote: Maemo uses framebuffer instead of X, you will have to re-write GUI

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Denis
OK, looks like I was wrong. 2008/3/13, Markus Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, i think, Maemo is not using FB directly, it's using an x-server and the matchbox WM. see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_architecture.html#WM cheers Markus

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
mac2k ha scritto: If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype with its's proprietary protocol. Why use closed software if the open source alternative could do a better job. I do totally agree with this, btw a skype

Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Mary Stovel
I have been following this list almost since the beginning with much interest. In fact, I named my dog Moko. I am just an occasional user of a cell phone, no tech or development experience. I also have Voip service at home and when away from home use Gizmo Project to make long

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Steven **
I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. As far as loading new applications, you will not need a data plan to do that. You could download them straight to the Neo over wi-fi or load them onto the Neo over USB from

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Steven **: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. Provider: any SIP, there are legion Client: any SIP, IIRC there's been a thread on SIP-clients here in the group. Qtopia had one?

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/03/2008, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Jeff Andros
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, I named my dog Moko.http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community just in case you're wondering why all the latino people are laughing, moko is booger in spanish... depending on your dog this may be