On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 20:16 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 04:18:50PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:51:33PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Well if a bug can be solved by killing the buggy process and getting
better
functionality than when
+1 on the subject Russ for DPL
On 2/12/14, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Seriously, Russ, you should be a writer or a politician *. You're a
wizard with words. I enjoyed reading that :).
Russ for DPL!
Hi,
Sorry for the late reply.
I have no ambition to join the Debian GNOME team, for the most part I
was looking for a relatively small program to package as a kindof
training.
I have created the .deb but I don't really have an idea on how to
proceed. I read the packaging guide and everything
❦ 12 février 2014 08:16 CET, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz :
Well if a bug can be solved by killing the buggy process and getting
better
functionality than when the process is running is certainly a very very
bad
bug!
As mentioned before: File a bug.
There is no
On 02/11/2014 09:53 PM, Игорь Пашев wrote:
The discussions on init system have discovered much energy of
developers and users,
so I think they are able to use that energy to support multiple systems :-)
No, please don't. I'd rather have other DDs use this energy and
help me (and paultag) go
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:47:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
systemd is used as the default init system in:
- Fedora
- Arch Linux
- Mageia
- openSUSE
- SLES (upcoming)
- RHEL7
- Frugalware
- (see Wikipedia)
And what is this prove? That a small part of a distro dev team
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:37:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On the other hand, what companies and distributions and companies
actively support Upstart and OpenRC.
Is this important? Or our way is to make init such a complex, that it
can be supported only by companies? If you
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:20:55PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
$ journalctl | grep
$ journalctl | tail -n 500
grep /var/log/syslog
tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog
Hm... Is this really simplier? O, wait. I can easily copy my log to any other
machine to analyze it there with:
scp /var/log/syslog ...
Please avoid the topic that uses the util-linux program,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:28:55PM +0400, Oleg wrote:
I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with gnome3,
etc).
Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some
interfaces provided (solely,
previously on this list Russ Allbery contributed:
One person in particular is currently creating new throwaway
accounts at various free email providers to post violent threats and
invective-filled rants to various project mailing lists.
Maybe it's Lennart and he's hired a psychologist ;-)
There is no bug if its not installed.
Which is the case for most programs. We could close almost all our bugs
on this ground.
But the normal case is that uninstalling a software you also stop getting the
functionality it provides, with pulseaudio you START getting the functionality
it
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51:38AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with
gnome3,
etc).
Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some
interfaces provided (solely, currently) by systemd. And it's not
On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote:
I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a
strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work
of others.
But you obviously have enough time to join this discussion and ask
questions that have been
Dear all,
I'm afraid that at present I don't have the time or inclination to be able
to give sbuild any real support in terms to keeping up with bug reports,
including those with patches which need review. There are a number which
could use some attention, particularly those with patches which
On 02/12/2014 11:28 AM, Oleg wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:47:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
systemd is used as the default init system in:
- Fedora
- Arch Linux
- Mageia
- openSUSE
- SLES (upcoming)
- RHEL7
- Frugalware
- (see Wikipedia)
And what is this prove?
On 02/12/2014 11:33 AM, Oleg wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:37:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On the other hand, what companies and distributions and companies
actively support Upstart and OpenRC.
Is this important?
Yes, it is. Large market share means large interest of
On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:01:46 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:41:56AM -0600, Michael Shuler wrote:
On 02/07/2014 10:25 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
Is there a policy on how to package software that does not make releases?
A version similar to skia_0.0-1~svnr1234
On 02/12/2014 11:53 AM, Oleg wrote:
Why do i need an unneeded layer for this - journalctl?
We have discussed this over and over again and there is tons
of documentation and discussions explaining the reasoning
behind that.
Please do your homework yourself and stop asking the same
questions over
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:32:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote:
I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a
strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work
of others.
But you
+++ John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2014-02-12 01:36 +0100]:
On 02/12/2014 01:26 AM, Wookey wrote:
Anyone trying to win an argument by suggesting that changing bits of my
car is a _bad_ thing has a very cock-eyed view of the world.
Ever heard of the German TUEV?
Driving a car with arbitrary
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:51 +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Please avoid the topic that uses the util-linux program,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:28:55PM +0400, Oleg wrote:
I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with
gnome3,
etc).
Great. gnome3 does not depend
Le mercredi 12 février 2014 à 12:10 +0100, Salvo Tomaselli a écrit :
But the normal case is that uninstalling a software you also stop getting the
functionality it provides, with pulseaudio you START getting the
functionality
it claims to provide by uninstalling it.
Oh really? You get
Le 12/02/2014 12:10, Salvo Tomaselli a écrit :
There is no bug if its not installed.
Which is the case for most programs. We could close almost all our bugs
on this ground.
But the normal case is that uninstalling a software you also stop getting the
functionality it provides, with
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 12:32 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote:
I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a
strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work
of others.
But you obviously have
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:24:03PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
And what is this prove? That a small part of a distro dev team choose to
use
a systemd? Where are votes of all distro users?
Those are among the most important distributions which attract most
users and
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:10:58PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
There is no bug if its not installed.
Which is the case for most programs. We could close almost all our bugs
on this ground.
But the normal case is that uninstalling a software you also stop getting the
functionality
2014-02-12 12:26 GMT+01:00 Oleg lego12...@yandex.ru:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51:38AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with
gnome3,
etc).
Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some
interfaces
Hi,
I liked sysv-rc for the same reason I still use my TI-89. I know how it
works and I know how to use it. I think I can see the merits of systemd
though.
It would be nice if someone could update the wiki with some links for
getting started though. At present, the wiki makes it look like
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:26:39PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/12/2014 11:33 AM, Oleg wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:37:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On the other hand, what companies and distributions and companies
actively support Upstart and OpenRC.
On 02/12/2014 03:01 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Why not stop here with OpenRC and call it day?
You cannot always win in life :).
Short version:
Why don't you just call it a day, and let me work on what I wish? What
is your problem with me working on it???
Longer version:
Part of why
On 02/12/2014 04:10 AM, Simon McVittie wrote:
Wasn't there some plan to have OpenRC look for its runscripts in a
parallel directory alongside init.d as well as in init.d itself, and
treat /etc/openrc-init.d/foo (or whatever) as a replacement for
/etc/init.d/foo? Then you could just say OpenRC
Hi Iain,
I recommend
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html
for starters.
Sincerely,
Jan.
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org wrote:
Hi,
I liked sysv-rc for the same reason I still use my TI-89. I know how it
works and I know how to
On 02/12/2014 12:59 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
And you seem to have infinite amount of time defending systemd, please
do some work as Debian Developer too (your hundreds of replies are
annoying)!
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=glaubitz%40physik.fu-berlin.de
Ranked 4th:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:48:12PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
gdm3 for example does, via systemd-logind, why don't you search for bugs
caused by that package!
Anyone is free to provide an alternative. There is a fork and it is
planned as an alternative. That GNOME depends on a dbus interface
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:42:54PM +0400, Oleg wrote:
A small part of a distro dev team choose to use a systemd and others users are
simply forced to use it.
Kind of empty speak. In any distribution you have a small amount of
people who contribute loads of time. E.g. ctte people, etc. If they
Hi,
Oleg:
If you want to use sysvinit, don't use Debian.
Why? I want to use debian as i used before - with a classic init. I like
debian in the form as it is now. You doesn't like it. May be _you_ should
use an another system, that meet your wishes?
Since Jessie (at least) will still
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:57:53PM +0400, Oleg wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:26:39PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/12/2014 11:33 AM, Oleg wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:37:59PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On the other hand, what companies and
Hi,
Oleg:
A small part of a distro dev team choose to use a systemd and others users are
simply forced to use it.
(a) then you should have complained / started a GR *instead of* delegating
the question to the TC.
Are we engineers or marketers? I thought we talk about a technical side
of
hello sir,
I want to make a debian package of my software so how to that
one. I couldn't find any proper document. can you help me by document or
link so that i can understand. at last I want to install of my software like
apt-get install safesquid(my software).so waht i have to do.
On 02/12/2014 01:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate what you and the other
maintainers are working on. But I think that it's not leading
anywhere.
That's entirely your view, and it's fine if you have it. Though *we got
your point* Adrian, no need to
Hi!
On 02/12/2014 01:04 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 02/12/2014 03:01 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Why not stop here with OpenRC and call it day?
You cannot always win in life :).
Short version:
Why don't you just call it a day, and let me work on what I wish? What
is your
On 02/12/2014 01:49 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 02/12/2014 01:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate what you and the other
maintainers are working on. But I think that it's not leading
anywhere.
That's entirely your view, and it's fine if you have
hi.
On 2014-02-12 13:47, ANGESH KUMAR wrote:
hello sir,
not exactly ;-)
I want to make a debian package of my software so how to that
one. I couldn't find any proper document. can you help me by document or
link so that i can understand. at last I want to install of my
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:28:49PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Please do your homework yourself and stop asking the same
questions over and over again.
Agree, I explained various things already in the same thread. There are
indications of people who indicate they don't like the
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 14:08 +0100, forum::für::umläute wrote:
On 2014-02-12 13:47, ANGESH KUMAR wrote:
I want to make a debian package of my software so how to that
one. I couldn't find any proper document. can you help me by document or
link so that i can understand. at last
Hi!
In fact, I installed systemd on my jessie system just yesterday. So
far I filed two (not very major, promptly being dealt with) bugs and
after a lot of initial conservative scepticism, I'm quite excited
especially by journald. :)
I found switching to systemd trivial by just
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On 02/12/2014 07:45 AM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Again. If these companies invest money into the development of
their embedded platforms init, we must not use it in our desktops
and servers.
So, in your opnion, everybody who works on their
On 12/02/14 13:53, Petr Baudis wrote:
[... lots of useful stuff ...]
Thanks!
That's pretty much exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
Should give me enough to get started, and I'll give all my knowledge
back to the wiki once I've acquired it.
Iain.
--
urn:x-human:Iain R. Learmonth
On 02/12/2014 09:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On 02/12/2014 01:49 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 02/12/2014 01:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate what you and the other
maintainers are working on. But I think that it's not leading
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:11:41PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:06:42AM -0500, James McCoy a écrit :
That being said, I don't have access to most of the packages. Even if I
did, it feels dirty to go and commit to a couple hundred packages I
have no
On 02/12/2014 03:35 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
To sum up what Adrian wrote, according to him, I'm:
- derogative
- arrogant
- utterly annoying
- hypocrite
- and finally, I wasn't honest before
Well done... ! Anything else?
Telling me to shut up and using sentences like we get it while you
Maybe time for both to agree to take this offlist or just not continue?
I don't think anyone means any harm, but arguing will just result in bad
blood IMO.
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Thomas, John: could you please move your personal argument off-list?
This thread is already way too long and isn't bringing anything new (or
positive for what is worth) to the discussion.
Let me also remind you that the purpose of this list is to discuss
technical development topics: it can
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On 02/11/2014 12:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
In my case: because I want to be able to read them conveniently at
a glance, without requiring the presence of a functioning
specialized tool for doing so.
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On 02/11/2014 10:15 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:05:48AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
I do not trust the systemd project to not do things I consider bad
or even insane, because they've already done such things, and they
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On 02/12/2014 04:07 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Thomas, John: could you please move your personal argument
off-list?
I already said I wanted to stop posting and asked Thomas to do the
same. I don't want to discuss this anymore since the TC
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previously on this list John Paul Adrian Glaubitz contributed:
You know that you did this before and you apologized to me in private.
If you like, I can post this mail to the public list. You said the exact
same things before and I have heard other Debian Developers who think
the same way
Oh really? You get per-application mixing, dynamic output redirection,
bluetooth support, network transparency, all of that with alsa+dmix?
No, but per application mixing with no sound coming out from the speakers is
not the most useful thing.
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Io non mi sento obbligato a
Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org writes:
Things I'd like to see are:
* A systemd primer (like what is a service file?)
* Packaging documentation for systemd (some has been started [1])
* How to hack together a service (this is something I did quite a lot
for homebrew scripts on servers)
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Oh really? You get per-application mixing, dynamic output redirection,
bluetooth support, network transparency, all of that with alsa+dmix?
No, but per application mixing with no sound coming out from the speakers is
not the
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:54:48PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If they have decided on systemd as default [...]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg5.html
Can we please end this thread?
Thanks!
Paul
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So I'm working on backporting enlightenment e17 from jessie to wheezy since
my request to backports went unanswered. Anyway, I believe I've found out
why.
Enlightenment is comprised of about a dozen packages, each of which depends
on the previous having been built and installed beforehand. And
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:05:41 -0800
Schlacta, Christ aarc...@aarcane.org wrote:
So I'm working on backporting enlightenment e17 from jessie to wheezy
since my request to backports went unanswered. Anyway, I believe I've
found out why.
Enlightenment is comprised of about a dozen packages,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 09:03:54AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
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On 02/12/2014 07:45 AM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Again. If these companies invest money into the development of
their embedded platforms init, we must not use it in our desktops
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:36:14PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Oleg:
If you want to use sysvinit, don't use Debian.
Why? I want to use debian as i used before - with a classic init. I like
debian in the form as it is now. You doesn't like it. May be _you_ should
use an
On Feb 12, 2014 10:19 AM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:05:41 -0800
Schlacta, Christ aarc...@aarcane.org wrote:
I don't know how to handle this complex dependency of each package on
previous packages in the complex build process
Keep building all
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:39:06AM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
But the normal case is that uninstalling a software you also stop
getting the functionality it provides, with pulseaudio you START
getting the functionality it claims to provide by uninstalling it.
Really? Uninstalling Pulseaudio
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:36:14PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Snarkiness aside, IMHO it makes much more sense to have the
most-featureful init system be the default, because then those features
actually get used and tested -- and thus the situation will be more
reliable than if only those
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Users (at least users from Debian Stable) are not beta testers.
This is assuming that either:
1) This is not going to be tested in Debian
2) systemd is not production quality
I don't think 1 is fair, seeing as how quite a few
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:25:14 -0500
Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
If they have decided on systemd as default [...]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg5.html
Can we please end this thread?
Sure but perhaps you could save me the trouble to say if there is a
general
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
Sure but perhaps you could save me the trouble to say if there is a
general outline of the factors that the decision made was based upon
perhaops somewhere in the ctte mailing list archive. Or a round up
published before voting.
Don't tell me it
On Mi, 12 feb 14, 19:02:00, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:25:14 -0500
Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
If they have decided on systemd as default [...]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg5.html
Can we please end this thread?
Sure but perhaps
On 2014-02-12, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:25:14 -0500
Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg5.html
Can we please end this thread?
Don't tell me it was just a vote with licensing issues being taken by
Hi,
Kevin Chadwick:
Can we please end this thread?
Sure but perhaps you could save me the trouble to say if there is a
general outline of the factors that the decision made was based upon
perhaops somewhere in the ctte mailing list archive. Or a round up
published before voting.
The
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:25:14 -0500
Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
If they have decided on systemd as default [...]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/02/msg5.html
Can we please end this thread?
Hi,
Bjørn Mork:
http://lwn.net/Articles/584175/
http://lwn.net/Articles/584176/
You'll have to subscribe to read those now (or wait)
… or find somebody who generates free links to the articles in question.
Since LWN's subscriber link page says that these links may be given to
others,
I got some debs built for E 18 not 17 gby oing from the source on
enlightenment.org and building them on Wheezy. They've been working
pretty well for me on a couple machines.
You might want to look at the E18 situation because many of the
dependencies for E17 have been combined into one tarball
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
Debian developers. Please go ahead !
There was adoption of DEP-12 outside of Debian Med and also outside
VCS repositories. I think it would be much better to fix
Le Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 07:08:44AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
Debian developers. Please go ahead !
There was adoption of DEP-12 outside of Debian Med and also
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote:
I got some debs built for E 18 not 17 gby oing from the source on
enlightenment.org and building them on Wheezy. They've been working
pretty well for me on a couple machines.
Thank you for the suggestion, but I'm
I thought they would be set up automatically when I made the repo. I
just tried to get source with apt-get source from my repo and it said
no source package available. What is the right way to add source
packages to the repo?
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:10:25 -0800 Schlacta, Christ
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:53:49PM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote:
Hi!
In fact, I installed systemd on my jessie system just yesterday. So
far I filed two (not very major, promptly being dealt with) bugs and
after a lot of initial conservative scepticism, I'm quite excited
especially by
I'm sure this isn't the right way to do it, but I put up the tarballs
and dscs and a couple pages that link to them.
http://www.vin-dit.org/~jholland/tarballs.html
http://www.vin-dit.org/~jholland/dscs.html
You have to build them (and install after building) in the order given
at
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:10:25PM -0800, Schlacta, Christ wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, John Holland [1]jholl...@vin-dit.org
wrote:
I got some debs built for E 18 not 17 gby oing from the source on
[2]enlightenment.org and building them on Wheezy. They've been
If you have a local apt repository (e.g., with dput and mini-dinstall),
then after building each package you would install it to your local
repo. (typical commandline: dput local packagename*.changes) If
properly configured, pbuilder can look at the local apt repository and
pick up the -dev
Hi,
http://lwn.net/Articles/584175/
http://lwn.net/Articles/584176/
Part 1 is now no longer behind the paywall.
Part 2: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/584176/0c6d3dd9a5243211/
Since LWN's subscriber link page says that these links may be given to
others, which is not quite the same as
After ***forcing*** users to use libav instead of ffmpeg in debian therefore making it to stuck with outdated fork istead of rapidly developing original it's too late to talk about freedom..-- Sergey Krasnikov
Thanks everyone! These sound like just exactly the pieces I was looking
for. I'll absorb everything I can and either start a new thread or follow
up on this one with any questions I develop.
On Feb 12, 2014 5:22 PM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote:
If you have a local apt repository
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 08:00:56AM +0400, Сергей Красников wrote:
After ***forcing*** users to use libav instead of ffmpeg in debian
therefore making it to stuck with outdated fork istead of rapidly
developing original it's too late to talk about freedom..
Clint Adams cl...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 08:00:56AM +0400, Сергей Красников wrote:
After ***forcing*** users to use libav instead of ffmpeg in debian
therefore making it to stuck with outdated fork istead of rapidly
developing original it's too late to talk about freedom..
On 02/12/2014 11:01 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Again, are you the listmaster or DPL or what?
I thought you were smarter and would understand you went too far and
should stop. Though if the only way to stop your insults is to go to the
DPL or the listmaster, I believe I wont even have
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