allocation and not limit you in any way.
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supporting them? Sorry, I think this is ridiculous. Does
debconf really need money from a proprietary software company? Why
does Debian promote of non-free software (indirectly)? I thought
Debian was about free software.
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On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:25:10PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 15:09, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
I don't *like* the registration page being hosted on IIS. But I prefer a
registration page to no registration page at all.
Is it that difficult to make a registration page
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Thom May wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
It subverts my principles (and probably also others). The fact that
the company itself is probably also going to distribute non-free
software also subverts my principles.
The thing
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote:
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 18:59, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
The keyword here is prominent.
Yes, it is.
The
Debian servers don't run non-free software provided by HP and/OR
Sun. The debconf2 registration page is hosted on a server
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:48PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 17:54, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
The thing I want say is: Debian is about free software, IMHO we should
not have such a prominent sponser promoting non-free
software. Especially as we probably don't need
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:12:16AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:03:14AM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
We should not advertise directly or indirectly non-free software.
Er, we _host_ non-free software on our servers, and distribute it via
our mirror network
because the manpages
are under the GNU FDL.
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move all GPL'd software to non-free at same time.
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-topic.
The funny thing is that this is made clear in the thread he pointed
at. That thread is a really interested read BTW (it makes me subscribe
to debian-legal :-).
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:28:12PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers
| It does also other things, like making distribution creation more
| flexible. I'm thinking of having a some kind of package file for every
| source package. That would include the current information
before most servers have the images.
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think this is the right thing, because almost all init scripts
can be run by a non-root user in the Hurd. Also the check isn't good
enough for SE Linux. Maybe you could do chmod o-x for the all the init
scripts or other things, but IMHO those things should not go into
Debian.
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 05:28:19PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ?
In case this is true, nearly all KDE packages have to be moved to
non-free as they use the GNU FDL for the documentation
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 05:22:53PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:29:27PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
IMO, an FDL-licensed document with invariant sections is non-free. As a
user of Debian, I'd like to know that they're not installed on my system
if I'm only
software, now you get
the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else
with your vmware problems. (Debian does support plex86 and bochs, BTW)
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:49:49AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:37:31AM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get
the consequences. Debian
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:37:31AM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get
the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else
with your vmware
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:09:39AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
hello
we sould stop this and start after woody again...
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 08:17:46PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:55:17PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
Sorry, diffs are simply silly! Use rsync
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:10:20AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
And yes, I think vmware is a waste of processing power and
bandwith. Those posts also waste my time.
Filtering them out would save you more time, bandwidth and processing
power than
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:31:35AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
Do you really think it's a waste of
bandwidth and processing power to let the vmware users discuss a
problem caused by a change in _Debian_?
First of all
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:46:33AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
That isn't my biggest concern.
Apparently. This implies, of course, that the additional bandwidth due
to those messages isn't the real problem.
I never claimed that. I was asked if I
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:34:35PM +0200, Peter Mathiasson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
First of all this isn't a Debian-specific change but a change in
glibc. Second vmware isn't Debian. Third Debian goes about free
software, vmware isn't
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get
the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else
with your vmware problems. (Debian does support plex86 and bochs, BTW)
As this might
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:21:49PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:29:14PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:31:35AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:30:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
First of all this isn't a Debian
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:13:25PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I agreed with the social contract, but I think it should be
changed. Some parts are just wrong, other things are confusing.
That certainly looks like a contradiction to me. How do
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:53:59PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:25:47PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get
the consequences
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:20:38PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:25:47PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
This problem is very common for non-free software. If you want to
avoid such problems, you could try one of the free alternatives in
Debian, plex86 and bochs. Those
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:11:59PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:45:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:21:49PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:29:14PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
Vmware isn't even in Debian
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:16:07PM +0100, Stephen Stafford wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:25:47PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get
the consequences. Debian
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:30:12PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
By knowing the date it was written and what they actually meant
instead of what they actually have written down. (For example, they
meant non-free but they wrote commercial
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:52:46PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Blow off the non-free software user, no. If you have nothing to offer
by way of help with vmware itself, then your silence will be enough to
indicate that.
And the user
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:38:13PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Tue, 09 Apr 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
But does that mean they can posts question about problems with that
non-free software which are not related to Debian at all (the only
relation is that the user runs
, how do ... in dselect, etc.).
Actual my point was that you should ask vmware for the patch, we can't
provide it because it's non-free software.
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:29:56AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:40:41PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
s/refused/discouraged/ and I would agree. Isn't the goal of Debian
providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free
software anymore? IMHO
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:49:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Isn't the goal of Debian
providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free
software anymore?
No, no, nonono, no, no, no.
4. Our Priorities are Our Users and Free
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:02:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves
me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have
some time
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
Oh, and 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel
Wonderful news! Does this mean that we can expect the
'whine-the-linux-kernel-packages-should-all-have-linux-in-the-name
a few hours.
This would be what, package no 6, for switching laptop network config?
*t
This one does probably something different than the others. Somebody
is willing to put time in it and I don't see that there is a problem
wit that.
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* License : BSD-3-clause
Programming Lang: Objective-C
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the javascript
libraries are already packaged in Debian, then it isn't possible that
something bad sneaks in our packages. So why repack the upstream
tarball?
I don't really see any value in repacking every upstream tarball that
has a minified copy of jQuery.
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http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/w/wget/wget_1.15-1_copyright
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are working hard to get systemd working right in Debian
feel when reading such statements.
And while we as Debian can't do much about upstream maintainers not
being nice, we can at least try to set a good example by being nice
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not only
dislike systemd, but also it's maintainers.
Why are you blaming the systemd maintainers for decisions made by the
GNOME maintainers about GNOME?
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At Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:36:16 +0200,
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
That being said, sometimes you just need the binary equivalent of an
uncompressible Lorem Ipsum text (dd if=/dev/urandom), but IMHO the kernel
could (and should) provide a device for that.
If you just want to overwrite something with
At Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:35:39 +0200,
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 10:30 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
The buildd-related software (and most people when doing manual builds
with cowbuilder) uses “apt-get source foo” to download the file, fully
assuming that apt-get
At Wed, 2 Jul 2014 00:13:31 +0100,
Wookey wrote:
+++ Lars Wirzenius [2014-07-01 18:34 +0100]:
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 04:23:01PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
You get a choice of 'prevent-systemd' which stops it running as init
but allows the -shim and libpam packages so that logind and the like
At Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:20:24 +0200,
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
Don't synaptic and/or whatever honor these pins too?
I have no idea about synaptic, but there’s e.g.
At Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:26:38 +0200,
Vincent Bernat wrote:
❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com :
And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick
pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of
being inlined
it is
dual-licensed.
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a
transitional package in jessie it might be a better candidate. Then
you would have to move it again in the jessie package, but I'm afraid
there aren't any easy solutions.
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/certificates or need to
fake DNSSEC. For HTTPS it would need to have a certificate for
people.debian.org that the client trusts.
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whether
the apache2-data packages is available? Detecting that the purge
happens after the upgrade can probably be done by checking which
package owns the configuration files.
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a proxying
server such as apache or nginx (similar to for example php-fpm).
So as far as I can see, the correct dependency should be:
Depends: libapache2-mod-wsgi | httpd-wsgi, apache2 | httpd
So it also possible to run other webservers.
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At Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:43 -0700,
tony mancill wrote:
I contacted the upstream author (on the cc: - hi Frank), and his concern
with the passphraseless key trigger mechanism is precisely that you
don't have a passphrase. The key is unprotected and subject to
theft/unauthorized use. This
with the necessary files:
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/stateless.html
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At Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:51:56 +0200,
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Brian May (2014-09-23 08:02:22)
On 29 July 2014 19:04, Jeroen Dekkers [1]jer...@dekkers.ch wrote:
As far as I can see this is a bug in the apache2 packaging. The httpd
virtual package should be provided
seem to have any problem with
that.
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such as grub.
Regards,
Jeroen Dekkers
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At Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:12:02 +0200,
David Douard wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: David Douard david.dou...@logilab.fr
* Package name: libnacl
Version : 1.4.2
Upstream Author : Thomas S Hatch tha...@saltstack.com
* URL :
a „tcpdump -i eth0” is the right
command.
I think people who know how to use tcpdump will also be able to type
in ip addr to look up the device name they want to dump.
Jeroen Dekkers
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