Re: Firmwares (was Re: Bits from the DPL)

Andrey Rakhmatullin dijo [Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 10:41:45PM +0500]: > Why is updating the firmware packages not trivial? Is it because of > licensing issues? I always thought it's just copying a bunch of files from > the linux-firmware repo (but I also often wondered why is the package > often not

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

Dominik George dijo [Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43:03PM +0200]: > > So, let's at least be consistent. > > Totally agree with that. > > Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system. > > But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in the > name

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

Simon McVittie dijo [Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:33:45AM +0100]: > - For game-related use cases in particular, 2030 GPU models aren't going > to work with 2023 user-space graphics drivers (typically Mesa or > NVIDIA-proprietary) because the 2030 GPU didn't exist yet at the time > the 2023 driver

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

Simon McVittie dijo [Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 11:45:26AM +0100]: > On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 at 09:33:22 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > Judging from the conversation, killing i386 quite obviously is desired > > by some participants, but evidently not by all. How quickly we want to > > kill it is not

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

John Goerzen dijo [Wed, May 31, 2023 at 07:29:38AM -0500]: > (...) > I guess the question is: is this use case too niche for Debian to > continue supporting? I would suggest that as long as we have 32-bit > ARM, are the challenges for 32-bit x86 really worse? Do note, however, the ARM64 started

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

Alexandre Detiste dijo [Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:00:42PM +0200]: > Le mer. 31 mai 2023 à 12:44, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > 20+ year old machines are typically more power hungry, more expensive, > > less performant, and less reliable than an up-to-date raspberry pi. > > Embedded systems and

Re: Problem with detection of hard disks on a hub

Ralf Lehmeier dijo [Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 06:43:42PM +0200]: > No problem. > I already moved the part with the hub alternative to > linux.debian.user.german. > But the part with the question why Debian does not recognize the hub, > although Manjaro does, should interest the Debian developers. >

Re: Problem with detection of hard disks on a hub

Ralf Lehmeier dijo [Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 03:21:38PM +0200]: > Andrey Rakhmatullin schrieb: > > The user support list is debain-user@ > > > > Thanks for the tip. > I will ask the question again on linux.debian.user.german. > > But one question remains unanswered. > Why are the disks recognized

Re: Introducing Declarative Debian

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud dijo [Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 03:54:55PM +0200]: > > For example: > > * httpserver-is-apache > > * imapserver-is-dovecot > > You need to think larger! > > * christoph-got-you-to-think-about-this-seriously > * april-s-fool-is-less-and-less-fun-in-an-era-of-fakenews > *

Re: my package uploads silently rejected

Jonas Smedegaard dijo [Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 03:03:14PM +0100]: > Hi, > > I am unable to succesfully dput packages. Most likely the cause is my > too late updating my PGP key expiry date - but that should be solved by > now, and I am unable to figure out how to debug the problem or whom to >

RFH: Packaging Intel's userspace tools for Data Streaming Accelerator

Hi all, I was recently approached by Intel engineers Miguel and Jair (Cc:ed on this mail). They asked for my help in getting Debian Bookworm and higher to support the Data Streaming Accelerator, and we have exchanged a couple of messages about this. I'm reproducing next part of our conversation.

Re: Keep both images but stop pretending no-free is unofficial

Hakan Bayındır dijo [Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 09:21:07PM +0300]: > A further evolution of this idea might be adding another question to > Debian Installer regarding to non-free software. > > If the users choose “No” for enabling non-free repositories, another > question might ask “Your system seems to

Re: Keep both images but stop pretending no-free is unofficial

Marc Haber dijo [Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 06:56:54PM +0200]: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 08:21:10 -0600, Sam Hartman > wrote: > >One valuable suggestion was to make sure users could easily select > >freedom if that's what they wanted. > >So I think a free installation image is important. > > Would that

Re: getting pinta updated in Debian

Timotheus Pokorra dijo [Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 10:35:36PM +0100]: > Hello Mike, > > I have some experience with Mono packaging in Fedora. > I know of the dotnet SIG in Fedora. They made a massive effort, involving > Microsoft employees, to get dotnet core built according to the Fedora rules >

Re: developers-reference "vs" wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer

Holger Levsen dijo [Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:49:05AM +]: > hi, > > so Stephan Lachnit submitted an MR for developers-reference on Monday to > document how to grant DM upload permissions, which I gladly merged, even > though I was aware of "#653399: developers-reference: Please include a >

Re: Debian's branches and release model

Thomas Goirand dijo [Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:51:59PM +0200]: > >> That's obviously what I'm doing. But when there's 2 releases during the > >> freeze, it means one of them will never reach Unstable. > > > > Right, which makes perfect sense. > (...) > > I guess very few will, but if it's needed,

Re: Debian's branches and release model

Thomas Goirand dijo [Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 09:11:13AM +0200]: > > You can upload it to experimental > > That's obviously what I'm doing. But when there's 2 releases during the > freeze, it means one of them will never reach Unstable. Right, which makes perfect sense. The group of people

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

Phil Morrell dijo [Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:04:44AM +0100]: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:03:35AM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: > > - should a package debian/control list bundled dependencies to make > > sure to avoid duplications ? > > Maybe? I noted in my final paragraph that Fedora has a mechanism

Re: Shall we serve scripts as application or as text?

Simon McVittie dijo [Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 03:13:02PM +0100]: > Using types outside text/ is definitely appropriate for very verbose text > languages like SVG and "flat" OpenDocument, where it's *technically* > text, and *technically* you could edit it with a text editor, but in > practice that's

Re: Future of /usr/bin/which in Debian?

Clint Adams dijo [Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 04:20:02AM +]: > > Besides, will the new "which" tool be installed in Debian by default? Since > > debianutils is Essential:yes, not providing "which" tool by default could > > probably break some existing packages. > > My personal opinion is that no one

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

As I said, on a separate mail... Marc Haber dijo [Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 07:12:24AM +0200]: > In an ideal world, would the package manager not be a service utility > to SUPPORT policy and adapt to changing environment contitions instead > being a showstopper for innovation? > > Who is the dpkg

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

Sorry to single you out here, Marc -- This goes to many people. This goes, in fact, to the discussion itself. Marc Haber dijo [Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 07:12:24AM +0200]: > In an ideal world, would the package manager not be a service utility > to SUPPORT policy and adapt to changing environment

Bug#990010: ITP: mymake -- A tool for compiling C/C++ programs

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Filip Strömbäck * Package name: mymake Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Filip Strömbäck * URL : https://github.com/fstromback/mymake/ * License : MIT

Bug#990009: ITP: progvis -- Program visualization tool for C/C++ (and others)

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Filip Strömbäck * Package name: progvis Version : 0.5.7 Upstream Author : Filip Strömbäck * URL : https://storm-lang.org/index.php?q=06-Programs%2F01-Progvis.md

Re: Reconsider sending ITP bugs to debian-devel: a new list?

Steve McIntyre dijo [Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 01:45:20PM +]: > >I think the ITP mails can make reading the rest of the list difficult > >without extra local filtering or steps. Some times they are the > >majority of the list traffic. I think it would be better if > >ITP mail went to a separate,

Re: Request for Pricing

Hello Tony, I don't know where you got this mail address as a source for providing the goods you need, but it's not correct -- Debian is a volunteer organization that produces a distribution of the free "Linux" operating system. We cannot provide what you require. Andrej Shadura dijo [Fri, May

Re: Thanks and Decision making working group (was Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result)

Steve Langasek dijo [Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 01:53:02PM -0700]: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 11:25:50PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > IMHO, it's better to have a vote quickly on a limited set of GR options, > > > with the

Re: a proper-unix meta package (Re: Proposal: plocate as standard for bookworm)

Jonathan Carter dijo [Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 07:29:14PM +0200]: > >> Define "proper Unix"... > > > > The definition depends on whether you are a longhair or shorthair. > > If you're a proper blue-haired person, then the only proper Unix is Debian. Please do note that your definition might be of

Re: DAM Key and identity requirements

Mattia Rizzolo dijo [Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:45:48AM +0200]: > > > * Minimum key size and acceptable algorithms are actually the domain of > > >keyring-maint, and we just check those for them. > > >At the time of writing this, a new key must be larger than 1024bits, > > >ideally at

Re: RFC: Final update of DEP-14 on naming of git packaging branches

Seconded. Thanks! Raphael Hertzog dijo [Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 01:01:09AM +0200]: > Hello, > > following the recent discussions of June and of the last days, I'm > proposing the changes below to DEP-14. Basically it replaces debian/master > with debian/latest for all the reasons already discussed

¡El horario del MiniDebConf en español está en línea!

apt install feminismos Lunes 24-ago 18:00-18:20 Edwin Caldon: Shell ZSH en Debian 19:00-19:45 Gunnar Wolf: ¿Puedo usar limpiamente Debian en las Raspberry Pi? 20:00-20:45 Jonathan Bustillos: Construcciones reproducibles en

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

Colin Watson dijo [Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:13:31PM +0100]: > I think my ranked preferences are: > > 1. devel (for the sorts of reasons smcv@ gave; also, debian/devel is a > nice allusion to this list) > 2. trunk (historical familiarity from other VCSes) > 3. main or maybe mainline (some

Re: Pimp your shell - Debian developer tips?

Hello world, Like Paul said in his reply, I also have a "bash monstrosity" as a Bash prompt. I last spent time tweaking it many years ago, so... This migh reflect what my head was like in the past, not today :-] I am attaching here the relevant portion of my .bashrc > Basically the only

Re: [Summary]: RFC: Standardizing source package artifacts build paths

Michael Biebl dijo [Mon, May 04, 2020 at 11:51:05AM +0200]: > >> Personally, I don't see any real benefit of standardizing on (making up an > >> example here) debian/.build over debian/build. > > > > Same here. The arguments against debian/build are very weak. If we care > > about a source

Re: RFC: Replacing vim-tiny with nano in essential packages

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:40:43PM +0100]: > >> The only problem you mentioned was vim-tiny (arch: any) depending on > >> vim-common (arch: all) and these sometimes getting out of sync on Debian > >> Ports. I don't think that is a good reason to switch editors and

Re: RFC: Replacing vim-tiny with nano in essential packages

Ansgar dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:49:49AM +0100]: > And Debian ships vim-tiny, not vim, as part of the minimal > installation. That the same source package also builds other versions > doesn't really matter for vim-tiny. > > The only problem you mentioned was vim-tiny (arch: any) depending on

Accepted raspi-firmware 1.20200114-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:49:12 -0600 Source: raspi-firmware Architecture: source Version: 1.20200114-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: pkg-raspi Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Changes: raspi-firmware (1.20200114-1

Accepted vmdb2 0.13.2+git20191220-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 10:56:15 -0600 Source: vmdb2 Architecture: source Version: 0.13.2+git20191220-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Closes: 922713 928485 Changes: vmdb2 (0.13.2

Accepted vmdb2 0.13.2+git20191206-2 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:39:34 -0600 Source: vmdb2 Binary: vmdb2 Architecture: source all Version: 0.13.2+git20191206-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: vmdb2

Accepted vmdb2 0.13.2+git20191206-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 10:47:42 -0600 Source: vmdb2 Binary: vmdb2 Architecture: source all Version: 0.13.2+git20191206-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: vmdb2

Re: BITS from the DPL For September/October 2019

Simon Richter dijo [Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:46:21PM +0100]: > Hi, > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:38:32PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > If we have such vote again, I'll continue on this direction: I'd prefer > > if we didn't have to vote. > > >From a Policy perspective, packages are

Re: quedada debianita en Madrid jueves 3 de octubre

Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 03:36:44PM +]: > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 01:28:59PM +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > > El próximo jueves 3 de octubre vamos a quedar alguna gente Debian (y quien > > quiera sumarse) para tomar algo, a las 21:00 en Mercado San Anton - Calle > > de >

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, May 28, 2019 at 04:51:10PM +0100]: > While trying to write the dgit FAQ, and some of the relevant docs, it > has become even more painfully obvious that we lack a good handle on > what all the different ways are that people use git to do their Debian > packaging, and what

Accepted raspi3-firmware 1.20190215-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:59:36 -0600 Source: raspi3-firmware Architecture: source Version: 1.20190215-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: pkg-raspi Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Changes: raspi3-firmware (1.20190215-1

Accepted vmdb2 0.13.2+git20190215-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:47:15 -0600 Source: vmdb2 Binary: vmdb2 Architecture: source all Version: 0.13.2+git20190215-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: vmdb2

Accepted vmdb2 0.13.2+git20190214-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:17:52 -0600 Source: vmdb2 Binary: vmdb2 Architecture: source all Version: 0.13.2+git20190214-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: vmdb2

Accepted raspi3-firmware 1.20181112-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:00:06 -0500 Source: raspi3-firmware Binary: raspi3-firmware Architecture: source Version: 1.20181112-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: pkg-raspi Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: raspi3

Accepted listadmin 2.42-1.3 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:26:39 -0500 Source: listadmin Binary: listadmin Architecture: source Version: 2.42-1.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Noël Köthe Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: listadmin - command

Accepted listadmin 2.42-1.2 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:40:56 -0500 Source: listadmin Binary: listadmin Architecture: source Version: 2.42-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Noël Köthe Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: listadmin - command

Accepted listadmin 2.42-1.1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:41:39 -0500 Source: listadmin Binary: listadmin Architecture: source Version: 2.42-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Noël Köthe Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: listadmin - command

Accepted raspi3-firmware 1.20180619-1 (source) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:05:26 -0500 Source: raspi3-firmware Binary: raspi3-firmware Architecture: source Version: 1.20180619-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: pkg-raspi Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: raspi3

Re: Leftover in ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt after DM -> DD transition

Boyuan Yang dijo [Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:17:17PM -0400]: > Hello all, > > My role in Debian recently changed from Debian Maintainer to Debian > Developer. > However, my DM permission record [1] in > https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt are still left untouched. When I try to > remove them, I

Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft Acquisition of GitHub

Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 04:33:46PM +0100]: > Asavaseri Natnaree writes ("Re: Research survey: Impact of Microsoft > Acquisition of GitHub"): > I am happy to announce that we are ready > to release preliminary results of the "Developer Perception to > Microsoft's acquisition of

Accepted swaks 20170101.0-4 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:00:08 -0500 Source: swaks Binary: swaks Architecture: source all Version: 20170101.0-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Andreas Metzler Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: swaks - SMTP

Accepted swaks 20170101.0-3 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:04:01 -0500 Source: swaks Binary: swaks Architecture: source all Version: 20170101.0-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Andreas Metzler Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf Description: swaks - SMTP

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

Matthew Crews dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 01:10:06PM -0400]: > On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> wrote: > > But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example > > before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and >

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

Athos Ribeiro dijo [Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 06:31:31PM -0300]: > (...) > I can not change what had happened here but I hope we can put this > behind us and move forward. > > @debian-devel: > > I am sorry my past actions have been taking so much time of everyone > else, which could be put into

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]: > On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words? > > yes, sorting depends on the

Re: libzstd_1.3.3+dfsg-2_multi.changes REJECTED

Chris Lamb dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100]: > (...) > Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying > this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our > mailing lists. > > As has been pointed out elsewhere, people make mistakes in > technical

Re: Invitación Lección Magistral de Jesús M. González Barahona - Fuenlabrada, 6.4 a las 19:00

Gregorio Robles dijo [Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 10:55:33AM +0200]: > Estimados desarrolladores de Debian, > > os envío noticias de este evento, de especial interés si sois de Madrid y > si conocéis a Jesús, antiguo desarrollador Debian. Aceptad mis disculpas el > resto. > > A mitad de camino

Accepted drupal7 7.58-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:04:53 -0600 Source: drupal7 Binary: drupal7 Architecture: source all Version: 7.58-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@d

Re: Bug#880014: Technical committee appointment

Thomas Goirand dijo [Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:18:18PM +0200]: > On 03/16/2018 07:51 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > I have to pick a nit here - I know this mail probably comes from a template > > and you are repeating what used to be true here. But, according to GR > > 003 in 2016¹,

Re: Bug#880014: Technical committee appointment

Chris Lamb dijo [Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:14:37PM +]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Dear fellow developers, > > As defined by our constitution (§6.2.2), the Debian Technical Committee > has recommended the appointment of Simon McVittie (smcv). Yay! Welcome on board!

Re: FTP Policy Development

Steve Robbins dijo [Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 01:15:35PM -0600]: > (...) > To me, one of the puzzling aspects is why the FTP policy work has been so > secretive. The release team has a mailing list, tech committee has a mailing > list. There is Debian Policy list. It doesn't seem in congruence

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] three.js_80+dfsg2-2_amd64.changes REJECTED

Pirate Praveen dijo [Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 03:15:42PM +0530]: > >> 1. If a single ftp master is in disagreement, there should be a team > >> decision (in previous cases of disagreement also, other team members did > >> not get involved). > > > > I'm lost already, sorry. As I understand the case of

Accepted drupal7 7.57-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:37:09 -0600 Source: drupal7 Binary: drupal7 Architecture: source all Version: 7.57-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@d

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Philipp Kern dijo [Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:18:13AM +0100]: > Putting security support over all else is surely how some people see it. But > some upstreams also complain if you are going to ship ancient versions > because the most recent ones contain all of the fixes. It's certainly more > work to

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Raphael Hertzog dijo [Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 03:19:59PM +0100]: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: > > > - we could relax our requirements and have a way to document the > > > limitations of those packages (wrt our usual policies) > > > > Which requirements are you

Re: Bug#890816: ITP: autovpn -- Connect to a VPN in a country of your choice

Michael Meskes dijo [Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:44:40PM +0100]: > > I'd strongly urge you to reconsider packaging this project, for > > three main reasons: > > > > * It relies upon the external VPNGate.net site/service. If this > > goes away in the lifetime of a stable Debian release users

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Michael Meskes dijo [Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 01:57:53PM +0100]: > > Minification is quite comparable to compilation. I will give you some > > examples from my frustration with Drupal8 in this answer. This can no > > longer be seen as source code: > > ... > > I disagree, it is not maintainable source

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:07:06PM +0100]: > > Is was a relevant part of the problem mentioned in Raphaels bug > > report: Minified JS libraries without source code. this was one > > of the starting points of this discussion. (#890598) > > Right, although merely technical since

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:12:04PM +0100]: > > No, I think it's better if people know they're on their own for maintaining > > something. What's surely worse is when we ship stuff that we know we can't > > properly maintain in the long term. Better to be out of the archive than

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:58:04PM +0100]: > Can't we treat a .deb file like a container in the sense that it may > include additional source if needed? I'd very much like this. > > I know that this does create some problems for us, e.g. on the security > side, but the

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

W. Martin Borgert dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:59:21PM +0100]: > If I understand Samuels idea correctly, he likes to have multiple > versions of the same (JavaScript) library installed on Debian. > Not "stuff", but proper Debian packages, with all bells and whistles. > Only that you don't remove

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

Raphael Hertzog dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:11:29PM +0100]: > Hello everybody, > > the fact that I had to request the removal of dolibarr from Debian makes > me sad (see below for the reasons) and I believe that we should be able > to do better to provide complex applications to our end users.

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

W. Martin Borgert dijo [Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:39:12PM +0100]: > Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me minutes to find it. > I didn't even know, that there were an ISO with non-free firmware. > > There should be a beautiful ISO download page, e.g. > https://www.debian.org/download[s]/ >

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

Arturo Borrero Gonzalez dijo [Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:15:04PM +0100]: > >> It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free > >> firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download > >> the ISO without non-free firmware? > > What others say is true. It's not easy

Re: Bug#882445: Proposed change of offensive packages to -offensive

Sean Whitton dijo [Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 02:40:54PM -0700]: > Hello David, > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:18:37PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > >> > "cowsay-offensive". In this situation the "-offensive" package can > >> > be Suggested by the core package(s), but should not be Recommended > >>

Re: Proposed change of offensive packages to -offensive

Ian Jackson dijo [Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:32:40PM +]: > So to be concrete, how about this: > > N. Packages with potentially offensive content > > As a maintainer you should make a judgement about whether the > contents of a package is appropriate to include, whether it needs > any

Re: Bug#877212: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing

Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 01:29:16PM +0100]: > I have also heard of packages which do "apt-get source" in their rules > files. > > I think that both of these activities are reasonable things to do. > They don't violate the self-containedness of Debian. If they are > technically

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing

Pirate Praveen dijo [Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 04:52:37PM +0530]: > > However, that verification isn't really sufficient if a rebuild > > on the buildds could download an entirely different version of the > > out-of-archive tools: a sufficiently inventive attacker who had gained > > control over

Re: Bug#877212: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing

Jérémy Lal dijo [Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 07:46:43PM +0200]: > It might be a good idea to make policy more explicit about downloads during > build. I completely agree. This led me to look at #813471 ("network access to the loopback device should be allowed"), and... Well, it seems to set the stage to

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing

Pirate Praveen dijo [Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 12:12:54PM +0530]: > > I am completely with Sean here; I read the following messages, and am > > happy a better resolution was found. But, FWIW, I'll support Sean's > > interpretation - Contrib and non-free are *not* places where we can > > happily breach

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing

Sean Whitton dijo [Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:10:54PM -0700]: > > The whole purpose of having contrib and non-free is to host packages > > that can't be in main, either permanently or temporarily. I fail to > > see how it is against the spirit. > > To my mind, at least, the purpose of contrib and

Re: popularity-contest reachs 200000 submitters!

Zlatan Todoric dijo [Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 01:05:10AM +0200]: > > Reports by versions of popcon: > > > > 1.46 (lenny) : 2925 > > 1.49 (squeeze) : 9600 > > 1.56 (wheezy) : 33450 > > 1.61 (jessie) :

Accepted drupal7 7.56-1 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:59:07 -0500 Source: drupal7 Binary: drupal7 Architecture: source all Version: 7.56-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@d

Re: Switch default installation image link?

> [ Note Reply-To: set to d-devel ] (answering only to said list) > Hey, Hiya, > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch > that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the >

Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

Arturo Borrero Gonzalez dijo [Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:42:09PM +0200]: > Hi Paul, > > I believe that what we are actually looking for is a bit of > improvement in the marketing side. > Modern and fancy things. > > The LXDE example is good on that. Is a good example on how to craft content-void

Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?

Jonathan Dowland dijo [Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:27:27AM +0100]: > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > Nice to have: > (snip) > > - Mailinglists > > I've always thought it a bit weird, unfortunate (and possibly a historical > accident) > that we have

Accepted gnuhtml2latex 0.4-3 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 12:17:53 -0500 Source: gnuhtml2latex Binary: gnuhtml2latex Architecture: source all Version: 0.4-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Changed-By: Gunnar Wo

Bug#860714: general: disk became full after running a perl program

The bug submitter followed up by private mail to me only; I'm cc:ing the bug report before closing it to provide a reasoned follow-up. - Forwarded message from Luis Duarte <turcova...@sapo.pt> - Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 16:36:29 +0100 From: Luis Duarte <turcova...@sapo.pt> To:

Bug#860714: general: disk became full after running a perl program

Luis Duarte dijo [Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:40:10AM +0100]: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > My windows manager is Xfce. Using Thunar - when I opened a directory > containing > perl programs, somethimes I click two times on a perl program to start it. No > Xterm appears - what I think

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Nikolaus Rath dijo [Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:18:57PM -0700]: > >> I have a very different perception > > > > Me too. I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to buy > > a good laptop which works well with Linux. > > I think there's a pre-requisite that's much harder for a lot of

Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

Sean Whitton dijo [Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:33:15PM -0700]: > > So, my idea was, in short: Thinking in a post-Buster world, do we even > > need the finalized line? I mean, take a look at debian/changes. The > > archive handling tools do get both «Date» and «Changed-By» fields, > > which reflect

Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

Sean Whitton dijo [Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:35:19PM -0700]: > > (Of course, the signoff line in the changelog is redundant with > > the GPG signature, which is what actually matters but isn't at all > > user-visible...) > > It's not redundant for sponsored uploads where the sponsor is not a >

Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

Let me explain. I think this line has clear signs of days long past: -- Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:37:57 +0600 Yes, in some way it summarizes who did the last (or first? or n-th?) modification to the changelog entry in case. But, given we see team-maintaine

Re: Team analysis graphs

Andreas Tille dijo [Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM +0100]: > Hi, > > this is my yearly hint to the teammetrics graphs you can find for your > team at > > http://blends.debian.net/liststats/ Very interesting! I will share this link with a student who is working with me and doing

Re: If you can't describe what the package is, you probably should not Intend To Package it.

Hi Jordi, Jordi Mallach dijo [Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:38:18PM +0100]: > I know dh-make-golang creates an "ITP template" that you edit to > correct/improve the autogenerated stuff, and the description comes > directly from the README.md in the github repo. I wonder if the nodejs > stuff does

Re: Bug#851306: ITP: freebayes -- Bayesian haplotype-based polymorphism discovery and genotyping

Scott Kitterman dijo [Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:34:40PM +]: > >> "freebayes" seems like a very generic name for something specific to > >such a > >> narrow field. Maybe freebayes-genetic-variance or some such instead. > > > >I fully agree with your generic name consideration. The software is

Accepted drupal7 7.52-2 (source all) into unstable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 11:09:27 -0600 Source: drupal7 Binary: drupal7 Architecture: source all Version: 7.52-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> Changed-By: Gunnar Wolf <gw...@d

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