Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-28 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 18 Apr 2024 at 09:44pm +02, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I am unaware if I am alone in maintaining Haskell packages outside of > the team giant-git-repo thingy. I wouldn't maintain libraries outside of the monorepo but typically programs are maintained outside of it. I maintain

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2024-04-18 09:35:41) > On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 7:26 PM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > To be fair, I _was_ upset (not with Jonathan, but) earlier in this > > thread, which makes it harder to err on the side of a mistake when I > > write something that can be read as being

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 4/9/24 03:25, James McCoy wrote: When I first started looking into Rust packaging it was initially going to be for a workspace of crates. I didn't receive any pushback when I asked about taking over the one crate that had already been packaged and handling it from a single source package for

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-18 Thread Timo Röhling
Hi, * Jonathan Dowland [2024-04-18 08:35]: Sorry, Jonathan, for being difficult to read here. No problem: Sorry for lapsing in assuming good faith on my part. The way both of you handled this misunderstanding was... exemplary. SCNR Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 7:26 PM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > To be fair, I _was_ upset (not with Jonathan, but) earlier in this > thread, which makes it harder to err on the side of a mistake when I > write something that can be read as being sarcastic. I would be upset too if my packages were

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Russ Allbery (2024-04-17 19:53:06) > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2024-04-17 17:29:11) > >> On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 10:39 AM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >>> Interesting: Can you elaborate on those examplary contributions of > >>> yours which highlighted a

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2024-04-17 17:29:11) >> On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 10:39 AM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> Interesting: Can you elaborate on those examplary contributions of >>> yours which highlighted a need for maintaining all Haskell packages in >>> same git

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[replying list-only - unable to identify who is subscribed] Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2024-04-17 17:29:11) > On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 10:39 AM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > (or did I misunderstand your point?) > > You misunderstood my point: I was actually supporting your position. Oh! >

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 10:39 AM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > (or did I misunderstand your point?) You misunderstood my point: I was actually supporting your position. You've read it entirely backwards. > Interesting: Can you elaborate on those examplary contributions of yours > which

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2024-04-17 11:14:20) > On Mon Apr 8, 2024 at 9:21 PM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > What I am not open to is abandon the one-git-repo-per-source-package > > packaging style that is commonly practiced in Debian. As I understand > > it, only Haskell and Rust teams use

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Apr 8, 2024 at 9:21 PM BST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > What I am not open to is abandon the one-git-repo-per-source-package > packaging style that is commonly practiced in Debian. As I understand > it, only Haskell and Rust teams use giant-git-for-all-team-packages > style I've never

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting James McCoy (2024-04-09 03:25:16) > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:21:49PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > ...and about moving on: Can you please also clarify if you understand > > "moving on" as reverting to me maintaining the package that you > > accidentally hijacked, or if you instead

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-08 Thread James McCoy
On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:21:49PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > ...and about moving on: Can you please also clarify if you understand > "moving on" as reverting to me maintaining the package that you > accidentally hijacked, or if you instead understand it as you (on bhalf > of the Rust team)

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Alexander and James, Quoting Alexander Kjäll (2024-04-08 16:42:22) > I'll second what James wrote, this was done by mistake by me as our > tooling didn't discover your package and I'm sorry for the extra work > it caused. Thanks for clarifying that it was an accident. Accidents happen. Let's

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-08 Thread Alexander Kjäll
Hi Jonas I'll second what James wrote, this was done by mistake by me as our tooling didn't discover your package and I'm sorry for the extra work it caused. It would indeed be nice if we could collect all rust packaging efforts together, that would reduce the risk of mistakes like these. best

Re: Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-08 Thread James McCoy
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 09:58:10PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > And when you do hijack packages²³, then please be respectful and give > credit, by preserving/reviving past contributions in the changelog file. As the person who uploaded rust-lazy-regex-proc-macros, I wasn't aware the crate

Silent hijacking and stripping records from changelog

2024-04-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Sylvestre and Alexander (cc Rust team and debian-devel), Please do not silently hijack packages. If you would like to take over maintenance for some package, then please ask. Then I won't bite¹. And when you do hijack packages²³, then please be respectful and give credit, by