Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-09 Thread Phil Steitz
Do you think the Maven developers can be convinced to make this the default behavior for generated build.xml files? It isn't at the moment. Case in point ... I generate nightly builds for a large number of Jakarta Commons (and Commons Sandbox) projects. The standard execution path for my

RE: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-09 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 5:53 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles On 8/8/05, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the intention is to keep standalone Tiles

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-09 Thread Greg Reddin
On Aug 8, 2005, at 8:18 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Both is also an option. :) There is already a Maven build for Standalone Tiles-- it came over from struts-tiles when the files were copied, and it works. The project.xml file needs a few changes-- I'll check them in if no one minds. In the

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-09 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think the Maven developers can be convinced to make this the default behavior for generated build.xml files? It isn't at the moment. Case in point ... I generate nightly builds for a large number of Jakarta Commons (and Commons

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-09 Thread David Geary
Both sounds good to me too. If nobody objects, that's what we'll do. david Le 05-08-08 à 19:59, Craig McClanahan a écrit : On 8/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm +1 for ANT. I agree with Joe's comment, but standalone Tiles is not part

[Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi guys, Is it possible to *use* Apache Tiles (standalone one) inside of Struts 1.2 ? I didn't see a plugin inside of the tiles standalone dist. thx, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi guys, Is it possible to *use* Apache Tiles (standalone one) inside of Struts 1.2 ? I didn't see a plugin inside of the tiles standalone dist. There is currently no plugin or TilesRequestProcessor in the Standalone Tiles project. I question whether it would

Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread David Geary
On 05-08-08, at 08:23, Greg Reddin wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi guys, Is it possible to *use* Apache Tiles (standalone one) inside of Struts 1.2 ? I didn't see a plugin inside of the tiles standalone dist. There is currently no plugin or TilesRequestProcessor in the Standalone

RE: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Yes, the intention is to keep standalone Tiles completely separate from Struts. The plugin and request processor should be in Struts, not standalone Tiles. ok I see, but Tiles currently depends on Struts ... ;) -Matthias david Greg

Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the intention is to keep standalone Tiles completely separate from Struts. The plugin and request processor should be in Struts, not standalone Tiles. ok I see, but Tiles currently depends on Struts ... ;) Here's a spot where

Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread David Geary
While we're thinking about supporting portlets in standalone Tiles, we need to make another decision: do we use ANT or Maven to build it? So, I'd like to call for a vote: ANT or Maven? david Le 05-08-08 à 09:53, Craig McClanahan a écrit : On 8/8/05, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Non-committer input: If I had a vote I'd vote for Maven. I *prefer* Maven but I can work with Ant. It's not an issue that will keep me from supporting the project. I prefer Maven because, to me, it makes dependency management, scripting builds, and some other things easier (i.e. I have to

Re: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread James Mitchell
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Joe Germuska
At 1:33 PM -0400 8/8/05, Ted Husted wrote: +1 for Maven. I don't have the bandwidth to support Ant for Struts 1.3.x, so unless someone else steps up, we'll need to go with just Maven for Classic. +1 for Maven; I think it will be confusing to use different build strategies within Struts, and

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're thinking about supporting portlets in standalone Tiles, we need to make another decision: do we use ANT or Maven to build it? So, I'd like to call for a vote: ANT or Maven? No surprise from my other comments, but +1 for Ant based

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread David Geary
I'm +1 for ANT. I agree with Joe's comment, but standalone Tiles is not part of Struts, so I don't think it will be confusing. Also Ted's comments about Maven being most useful when it's used for a set of projects convinced me even more to use ANT. It ain't called standalone Tiles for

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm +1 for ANT. I agree with Joe's comment, but standalone Tiles is not part of Struts, so I don't think it will be confusing. Both is also an option. :) There is already a Maven build for Standalone Tiles-- it came over from struts-tiles when the files

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm +1 for ANT. I agree with Joe's comment, but standalone Tiles is not part of Struts, so I don't think it will be confusing. Both is also an option. :) There is already a Maven build for Standalone

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Martin Cooper
+1 for Maven. My reasons are in the other thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-devm=112354929615256w=2 -- Martin Cooper On 8/8/05, David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're thinking about supporting portlets in standalone Tiles, we need to make another decision: do we use

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd be ok with the both approach. It seems to work fine for Commons packages. And the number of dependencies for standalone Tiles is really small, so the redundant downloads don't bug me that much. Redundant, how? Any one developer is likely to be

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd be ok with the both approach. It seems to work fine for Commons packages. And the number of dependencies for standalone Tiles is really small, so the redundant downloads don't bug me that much.

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread James Mitchell
The solution, from my understanding of Maven, is to decouple the build environments so that they explicitly do *not* benefit from the shared standardization advantage. At an absolute minimum, that seems to imply separate dependency lists ... and that also seems to imply that I'll end up with

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The solution, from my understanding of Maven, is to decouple the build environments so that they explicitly do *not* benefit from the shared standardization advantage. At an absolute minimum, that seems to imply separate dependency lists

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what should struts-faces do in detail, to avoid a dependency on Struts Core 1.3.x? The overall build file doesn't list any 1.3.0-dev dependencies, so they are not inherited by Faces. The dependency was coming from struts-faces' own project.xml

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what should struts-faces do in detail, to avoid a dependency on Struts Core 1.3.x? The overall build file doesn't list any 1.3.0-dev dependencies, so they are not inherited by Faces. The