Robin Opletal wrote:
> I think this wouldn't be that much of a problem - what I think is bad is
> that CentOS Stream security updates aren't going to come before RHEL's
> will, and they will essentially be backported, at least as I understood
> it.
That would be a forward-port then, not a
On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 04:45, Robin Opletal wrote:
> I think this wouldn't be that much of a problem - what I think is bad is
> that CentOS Stream security updates aren't going to come before RHEL's
> will, and they will essentially be backported, at least as I understood
> it.
>
>
a) CentOS
I think this wouldn't be that much of a problem - what I think is bad is
that CentOS Stream security updates aren't going to come before RHEL's
will, and they will essentially be backported, at least as I understood
it.
Correct me if I am wrong
On Wed Dec 9, 2020 at 5:52 PM CET, Adam Williamson
One more aspect I missed in my previous reply:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> CentOS Stream […] [i]s also not going to have short release intervals. It
> will be released every three years, and maintained for five years.
That is still only half of the 10 years that were originally announced for
CentOS
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:31 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> >
> > Quite literally here:
> >
> > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of
> > 2021"
> >
>
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>
> Quite literally here:
>
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
>
>
> and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
>
> For example,
El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 16:30, Sérgio Basto ()
escribió:
> On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>
> Quite literally here:
>
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
>
>
> and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
>
> For
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> Quite literally here:
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream)
branches, and the
Quite literally here:
"CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
Br,
El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto ()
escribió:
> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does this
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi,
> How does this (
> https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) affect
> Fedora?
where you read that is the end of centos ?
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:39:52PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21:02AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > It is still a form of a rolling release though, just one with branches. I
> > think it was actually clear to most of the readers that CentOS Stream is
> >
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:21:02AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> It is still a form of a rolling release though, just one with branches. I
> think it was actually clear to most of the readers that CentOS Stream is not
> Rawhide directly (because then it would be Rawhide, not CentOS
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> The release announcement was confusing, in that it used "rolling
> release" to describe something that doesn't resemble the common
> definition of that term.
>
> CentOS Stream isn't a rolling release. It will have distinct major
> releases. It just won't have point
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:49:23PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> The release announcement was confusing, in that it used "rolling
> release" to describe something that doesn't resemble the common
> definition of that term.
Yeah, that was accidental — written in good faith by someone who doesn't
On 12/9/20 5:07 AM, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
Instead I would like LTS system that I comfortable with, which is from
the RHEL ecosystem.
...
If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams
is rolling release or a release with short
release interval.
The release
Am 09.12.20 um 12:33 schrieb Jaroslav Prokop:
I am starting to get really confused on Fedora's position here. Are we
anywhere in the pipeline?
Are we prelude for software before it gets on CentOS streams or maybe
testing grounds for
RHEL if something got proved on the ground of CentsOS
Am 09.12.20 um 12:12 schrieb Christoph Karl:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was planning to support CentOS via EPEL as
a kind of
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:12 AM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
>
>
> El jue, 10 dic 2020 a las 9:52, Josh Boyer ()
> escribió:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:55 AM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El mié, 9 dic 2020 a las 9:28, Peter Robinson ()
>> > escribió:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020
Jaroslav Prokop píše v St 09. 12. 2020 v 14:07 +0100:
> Hello,
>
> On 09/12/2020 13:28, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl
> > wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > > > How does this (
> > > >
El jue, 10 dic 2020 a las 9:52, Josh Boyer ()
escribió:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:55 AM Sergio Belkin wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > El mié, 9 dic 2020 a las 9:28, Peter Robinson ()
> escribió:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello!
> >> >
> >> > On
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:55 AM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
>
>
> El mié, 9 dic 2020 a las 9:28, Peter Robinson ()
> escribió:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> > > How does this
On Thu, 2020-12-10 at 03:59 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> > But apparently some already took on this task [0].
> > [0] https://github.com/hpcng/rocky
>
> The official website is:
> https://rockylinux.org/
> (Still somewhat under construction, of course.)
>
> It
Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> But apparently some already took on this task [0].
> [0] https://github.com/hpcng/rocky
The official website is:
https://rockylinux.org/
(Still somewhat under construction, of course.)
It was started by the original founder of CentOS with the aim of going back
to the
On 2020-12-09 16:46, Damian Ivanov wrote:
All this sounds cool, rolling release FTW!
On that topic (rolling release) I have another suggestion - please
fork the thread if that's too OT.
Rawhide is good so far but is not suitable as a productive rolling
release because some packages have debug
On 09/12/2020 20:55, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
Looks like my use case should be included and hopefully with good
options :).
Although the way of communicating it feels a bit unfortunate.
I would at least like to see what kind of
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> Looks like my use case should be included and hopefully with good
> options :).
>
> Although the way of communicating it feels a bit unfortunate.
> I would at least like to see what kind of initiatives are we talking
> about, what
On 09/12/2020 20:24, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:07:01PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
It would provide with what is lost with CentOS Linux.
Let's entertain an example:
I would like to setup a home server with some locally hosted
services, but I wouldn't like to update it
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:07:01PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> It would provide with what is lost with CentOS Linux.
> Let's entertain an example:
> I would like to setup a home server with some locally hosted
> services, but I wouldn't like to update it to new system with new
> software every
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:26:18AM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
I wrote a blog post about this last September and I think it's all still
very true:
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-and-centos-stream/
Hello!
On 09.12.20 18:08, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
For those that want the equivalent of a point release,
I would think they should be able to write an ansible
script to upgrade to the point release of packages
that EL 8.x ship with.
Just had the same idea. ;-)
So if I only upgrade to the
On 12/9/20 12:33 PM, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
Hello,
On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:52 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but
> it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running
> Rawhide.
For those that want the equivalent of a point release,
I would think they should be
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 14:07 +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
>
> If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams
> is rolling release or a release with short
> release interval. That does not make my job much easier as someone who
> just sets up services and leaves it
>> Maybe provide a rolling release fedora as well (which is
>> suitable for non-debug systems).
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
>
> -Jared
Thanks, I thought to recall that it's not just the kernel.
Also mentioned in the wiki link is that it doesn't work with secureboot.
I
(Just to be clear before I start, I was not involved in the decision
process for yesterday's announcement.)
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:29 PM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
The short version: it doesn't.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:57 AM Damian Ivanov
wrote:
> Maybe provide a rolling release fedora as well (which is
> suitable for non-debug systems).
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
-Jared
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All this sounds cool, rolling release FTW!
On that topic (rolling release) I have another suggestion - please
fork the thread if that's too OT.
Rawhide is good so far but is not suitable as a productive rolling
release because some packages have debug flags that slow the system
down
(I have
Hello,
On 09/12/2020 13:28, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
Why?
El mié, 9 dic 2020 a las 9:28, Peter Robinson ()
escribió:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > > How does this (
> https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> > > affect Fedora?
> >
> > I think
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> > affect Fedora?
>
> I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
Why? What would it provide that CentOS
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ondrej Budai wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> st 9. 12. 2020 v 12:35 odesílatel Jaroslav Prokop
> napsal:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> >> How does this
Hello!
st 9. 12. 2020 v 12:35 odesílatel Jaroslav Prokop
napsal:
> Hello,
>
> On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> >> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
> )
> >> affect Fedora?
> >
> > I
Hello,
On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was planning to support CentOS via EPEL as
a kind of
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was planning to support CentOS via EPEL as
a kind of "Fedora LTS".
Best Regards
Christoph
I think the official answer to your question is "nothing: Fedora will continue
to provide the development distro upon Centos Stream and then RHEL are built".
My opinion instead is that we have many valuable contributors that are in the
Fedora community because they have CentOS/RHEL servers in
Hi,
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
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