Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

On 2023-06-29 18:09, Bastien Nocera wrote: Do you want to pick up the rest of the libimobiledevice stack as well? That's ifuse, libplist, libusbmuxd and usbmuxd. I've just picked these up, thanks! Will work together with Neal on this stack as part of the Fedora Asahi SIG. Cheers Davide

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

Do you want to pick up the rest of the libimobiledevice stack as well? That's ifuse, libplist, libusbmuxd and usbmuxd. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:48, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice > packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, > multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and soun

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

I've picked up low-memory-monitor On 6/29/23 08:46, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:48 AM Bastien Nocera wrote: Hello, As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth,

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:48 AM Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Hello, > > As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice > packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, > multimedia applications (namely totem

Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

Hello, As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of m

[EPEL-devel] Re: Missing RHEL 9 buildroot packages in EPEL 9 buildroot

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 05:20:04PM +, Brandeburg, Jesse wrote: > If I may, I'd like to revive this long ago [1] thread, and now that RHEL9.1 > is out, can we proceed to build coccinelle for EPEL 9.1? > > Is there anything I can do to help? > > [1] >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

On 28. 06. 23 15:33, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 6/28/23 09:43, Miro Hrončok wrote: Dear maintainers. Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages should be retired from Fedora 39 approximately one week before branching. 5 weekly reminders are required, hence

Re: orphaned packages

On 6/27/23 17:46, Simon de Vlieger wrote: Hi, I've orphaned some packages that I am too unfamiliar with to maintain, especially now that these are mostly FTBS/FTI and have unmaintained upstreams: - preproc: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc - preproc-rpmspec: https

Re: orphaned packages

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 05:48:06PM +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote: > Side-question: am I supposed to do anything with Bugzilla's currently related > to these packages that are assigned to me? (unassign/assign to orphan?). You shouldn't have to. Automation should come along and reassig

[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

Lance, I can sponsor/mentor you. I'll reach out to ya via Mattermost. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Lance Albertson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Please note that I've orphaned by packages,

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

Lance, I can sponsor/mentor you. I'll reach out to ya via Mattermost. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Lance Albertson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Please note that I've orphaned by packages,

[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj wrote: > Hello, > > Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. > > Best regards > -Othman > > rpms/mod_limitipconn > I'm interested in maintaining this but I am not a packager yet and

Re: orphaned packages

Side-question: am I supposed to do anything with Bugzilla's currently related to these packages that are assigned to me? (unassign/assign to orphan?). Regards, Simon ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

orphaned packages

Hi, I've orphaned some packages that I am too unfamiliar with to maintain, especially now that these are mostly FTBS/FTI and have unmaintained upstreams: - preproc: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc - preproc-rpmspec: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc-rpmspec - rpkg-macros

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Dne 27. 06. 23 v 8:43 Jeffrey Stewart napsal(a): Would like to take**golang-github-lithammer-dedent and aqemu but I believe I still need a sponsor. Anyone willing to sponsor? I think you can follow this guideline:

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Would like to take**golang-github-lithammer-dedent and aqemu but I believe I still need a sponsor. Anyone willing to sponsor? On 6/9/23 07:24, Omair Majid wrote: Hi, Jens-Ulrik Petersen writes: What would be really helpful is to know how it compares with other Naskh fonts like Paktype

Re: Orphaning packages

, Othman Madjoudj wrote: Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms/mod_limitipconn rpms/mod_qos rpms/mod_ruid2 rpms/mod_security3 rpms/mod_security_crs rpms/python-paramiko rpms

[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

, Othman Madjoudj wrote: Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms/mod_limitipconn rpms/mod_qos rpms/mod_ruid2 rpms/mod_security3 rpms/mod_security_crs rpms/python-paramiko rpms

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

e source of Centos Stream , what is the problem ? > I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I > have involvement with. > > Regards > > Phil > > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Orphaning packages

Hello. I orphaned the following packages: rpms/axc rpms/git-subrepo rpms/jdns rpms/maddy rpms/mdns rpms/pidgin-groupchat-typing-notifications rpms/pidgin-privacy-please rpms/pidgin-toobars rpms/psi rpms/psi-plus rpms/purple-discord rpms/purple-googlechat rpms/purple-libsteam rpms/purple-lurch

Re: Orphaning packages

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6. Thank you for your contributions, Othman! --Neil On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote: Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms

[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6. Thank you for your contributions, Othman! --Neil On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote: Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms

Re: Orphaning packages

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:48:18 AM CDT Othman Madjoudj wrote: > Hello, > > Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. > > Best regards > -Othman > > > rpms/aria2 > rpms/hydra > rpms/libmodsecurity > rpms/lynis >

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

On 21/06/2023 19:33, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote: If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain them.  FAS jonathanspw Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day. Hi Jonathan, If you want help with remmina, you can add me as a co

Re: Orphaning packages

AM, Othman Madjoudj wrote: > Hello, > Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. > > Best regards > -Othman > > > rpms/aria2 > rpms/hydra > rpms/libmodsecurity > rpms/lynis > rpms/mod_limitipconn > rpms/mod_qos >

[EPEL-devel] Orphaning packages

Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms/mod_limitipconn rpms/mod_qos rpms/mod_ruid2 rpms/mod_security3 rpms/mod_security_crs rpms/python-paramiko rpms/thc-ipv6

Orphaning packages

Hello, Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message. Best regards -Othman rpms/aria2 rpms/hydra rpms/libmodsecurity rpms/lynis rpms/mod_limitipconn rpms/mod_qos rpms/mod_ruid2 rpms/mod_security3 rpms/mod_security_crs rpms/python-paramiko rpms/thc-ipv6

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 12:33 -0500, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote: > If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain > them. FAS jonathanspw > > Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day. > > Hi, I have added you with com

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain them. FAS jonathanspw Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:27 PM Philip Wyett wrote: > Hi all, > > After the announcement below today. > > https:/

Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

Hi all, After the announcement below today. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I have involvement with. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian

Re: LibreOffice packages

I built it successfully in the side tag by disabling tests. There's a new release; I'll see if that fixes things. --  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie Sent with Proton Mail secure

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:40:39 +0200 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 01. 06. 23 22:16, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote: > > I've taken ownership of libreoffice for the time being, at least to keep > > the lights on. Co-maintainers, as always, welcome. > > Thanks. > > Could you please prioritize making it

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 01. 06. 23 22:16, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote: I've taken ownership of libreoffice for the time being, at least to keep the lights on. Co-maintainers, as always, welcome. Thanks. Could you please prioritize making it build? The LibreOffice package fails to build in rawhide for months.

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Hi, Jens-Ulrik Petersen writes: > What would be really helpful is to know how it compares with other Naskh fonts > like Paktype (current default) and Nafees, and even Noto Nastaliq Urdu > (they are all in Fedora 38). I lack the tools/skills/knowledge/jargon to describe the differences I see.

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:47 PM Omair Majid wrote: > Not an expert, just a casual Urdu speaker with a drive by contribution. > I don't write Urdu much these days but I can read it. > Cool Akira TAGOH writes: > > I have no idea if Noto Sans Arabic or Noto Naskh Arabic is qualified > > for Urdu

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Hi, Not an expert, just a casual Urdu speaker with a drive by contribution. I don't write Urdu much these days but I can read it. Akira TAGOH writes: > I have no idea if Noto Sans Arabic or Noto Naskh Arabic is qualified > for Urdu and Punjabi. Even though they have minimal coverage in >

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Actually nafees-naskh-fonts would need some font config to become default. So I guess the easiest thing is indeed to unretire the old default package. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

I suggest we can go with nafees-naskh-fonts for now. Though we should have caught some of the paktype fonts anyway. :-( ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: LibreOffice packages

Michael Catanzaro píše v St 07. 06. 2023 v 08:15 -0500: > > Ideally all bundled dependencies should be hooked up to some sort of > automation that notices when there are upstream updates available, > comparable to upstream release monitoring. On Flathub this is done by >

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

I have no idea if Noto Sans Arabic or Noto Naskh Arabic is qualified for Urdu and Punjabi. Even though they have minimal coverage in fontconfig perspective, there might be minor differences which look strange for native speakers like punctuation marks in CJK etc. If we are going to change, we

Re: Upcoming retirement of unused compat packages for Rust crates

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 10:21 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > All listed packages are compat packages with newer versions of these > projects already being available in Fedora 37+, and all listed > packages have no dependent packages left. If anybody has objections to &g

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Wed, 2023-06-07 at 11:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 13:45 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > paktype-naskh-basic-fonts orphan, vishalvvr    2 weeks > > ago > > So this one is a problem: it appears to be our intended default font > for Arabic. It's

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 13:45 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > paktype-naskh-basic-fonts orphan, vishalvvr    2 weeks ago So this one is a problem: it appears to be our intended default font for Arabic. It's part of the @fonts group in comps and it's also in the lorax templates

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/7/23 15:15, Michael Catanzaro wrote: [1] https://github.com/flathub/flatpak-external-data-checker Oh, thanks, didn't know about that. Will try to make use of it for LibreOffice, "Add metadata for

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note

Re: LibreOffice packages

The main difference is that Fedora - be it rpms, flatpaks from module rpms (current state), flatpaks from whatever - comes with the promise of all the four F's, including freedom from legal issues as outlined in our guidelines. That enables RedHat to make the guarantees which they make for

Re: LibreOffice packages

Ideally all bundled dependencies should be hooked up to some sort of automation that notices when there are upstream updates available, comparable to upstream release monitoring. On Flathub this is done by flathub-external-data-checker [1], but using it is optional and it's not useful if

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Wed, 2023-06-07 at 11:43 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > plexus-component-api  orphan   6 > weeks ago - this package (plexus-component-api) was retired an hour ago, running [1] I checked the depending packages are: maven-native plexus-active- colle

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 18:07:04 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On the other hand, the libreoffice flatpak bundles ~80 projects: > - gpgme (huh?) This... > - openldap (huh?) and perhaps this are probably because it is possible to sign and encrypt ODF documents using OpenPGP. Some details are

Re: LibreOffice packages

ewhat) to ship their > > own software correctly, do I trust them regarding these ~80 bundled - > > and partially security sensitive - libraries, as well? I'm not sure. > > Do I trust the Fedora packages for these libraries? Probably. Many of > > these libraries are

Re: LibreOffice packages

"Introduce optional krb5 support for internal PostgreSQL") "on > its own": If there are any (security) issues with their upstream > sources, we need to notice that and adapt the LibreOffice flatpak > accordingly. > > * It bundles another 83 packages (from pdfium-5408.tar.bz2

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note

Re: LibreOffice packages

t) to ship their own software correctly, do I trust them regarding these ~80 bundled - and partially security sensitive - libraries, as well? I'm not sure. Do I trust the Fedora packages for these libraries? Probably. Many of these libraries are installed by default on Fedora, and are not

Re: LibreOffice packages

led - and partially security sensitive - libraries, as well? I'm not sure. Do I trust the Fedora packages for these libraries? Probably. Many of these libraries are installed by default on Fedora, and are not only used by LibreOffice, so I basically pla

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 7:50 AM Leon Fauster via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Is the Fedora OCI flatpak approach not about the trust into the chain of > flatpak creation? src -> signed rpm -> flatpak? So, even in an ideal world > where RHEL is immutable and the best workstation

Re: LibreOffice packages

Is the Fedora OCI flatpak approach not about the trust into the chain of flatpak creation? src -> signed rpm -> flatpak? So, even in an ideal world where RHEL is immutable and the best workstation experience is based on flatpaks - RPMs are the building block. This is completly different to the

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 16:14, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:37:24 PM -0400, Stephen Smoogen > wrote: > > > > 1. What is a flatpak and what does it mean to have an application in > > it? Is it everything bundled in it or does it use layers? > > Two layers: > > * Runtime

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 04:46:42 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Fedora could, of course ship its own SELinux policy for Flatpak (and I recommend this), but Flatpak will not (and cannot reasonably be expected to) integrate with SELinux natively. Well it would have to be a very permissive

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 04:49:07 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: “several hundred megabits a second on tap at all times” is completely out of the question for the majority of the world’s population. I’m not sure what the median bandwidth in the developing world is, but it is far FAR less

Re: LibreOffice packages

kaging work? Asking upstream to create > > > > packages for every distribution is not reasonable. > > > > > > I would never want upstream to do packaging, as experience teaches, > > > they would certainly do it wrong. > > > Packaging and inte

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/5/23 15:01, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 19:51 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> On 6/5/23 19:13, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> >>> Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create >>> packages for every distribution is no

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/5/23 16:35, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 02:09:58 PM -0400, Steve Grubb > wrote: >> Yes. And how does it's security model work? > > The security model is that the application is assumed to be compromised > by malicious input and is trying to do evil things to the host

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 02:09:58 PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: Yes. And how does it's security model work? The security model is that the application is assumed to be compromised by malicious input and is trying to do evil things to the host system, like read your home directory and send

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:37:24 PM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: 1. What is a flatpak and what does it mean to have an application in it? Is it everything bundled in it or does it use layers? Two layers: * Runtime (base platform, responsibility of runtime maintainers) * Application

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:05:25 PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer can rebuild to pick it up, but until the

Re: LibreOffice packages

Il 05/06/23 19:51, Roberto Ragusa ha scritto: > On 6/5/23 19:13, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create >> packages for every distribution is not reasonable. > I would never want upstream to do packaging,

Re: LibreOffice packages

Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 13:05 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a > > specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if > > there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 19:51 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 6/5/23 19:13, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create > > packages for every distribution is not reasonable. > > I would never want upstream to do

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 13:05 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Stephen Smoogen said: > > 1. What is a flatpak and what does it mean to have an application in it? Is > > it everything bundled in it or does it use layers? > > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 14:10, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Monday, June 5, 2023 1:37:24 PM EDT Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 13:32, Michael Catanzaro > > > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:13:50 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > > > > > > wrote: > > > > zlib should be added to

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/5/23 2:05 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Stephen Smoogen said: 1. What is a flatpak and what does it mean to have an application in it? Is it everything bundled in it or does it use layers? It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a specific build of

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Monday, June 5, 2023 1:37:24 PM EDT Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 13:32, Michael Catanzaro > > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:13:50 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > > > > wrote: > > > zlib should be added to the standard freedesktop.org runtime if it is > > > not > > >

Re: LibreOffice packages

Once upon a time, Stephen Smoogen said: > 1. What is a flatpak and what does it mean to have an application in it? Is > it everything bundled in it or does it use layers? It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a specific build of a lower layer. So using the

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/5/23 19:13, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create packages for every distribution is not reasonable. I would never want upstream to do packaging, as experience teaches, they would certainly do it wrong. Packaging and integration

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 13:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:13:50 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: > > zlib should be added to the standard freedesktop.org runtime if it is > > not > > already included. > > zlib is included in both freedesktop-sdk and also GNOME

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5 2023 at 01:13:50 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: zlib should be added to the standard freedesktop.org runtime if it is not already included. zlib is included in both freedesktop-sdk and also GNOME runtimes, so nobody should need to bundle it. Michael

Re: LibreOffice packages

lready have to deal with updating bundled dependencies. > Whatever is not in a rule-conforming rpm, is not correctly packaged, > in my opinion. Are you willing to do the packaging work? Asking upstream to create packages for every distribution is not reasonable. -- Sincerely, Demi Mar

Re: LibreOffice packages

Il 05/06/23 17:00, Michael J Gruber ha scritto: > I've taken up hyphen and the orphaned hyphen-* packages. They don't appear to > be high maintenance, but co-admins welcome, of course. Similarly, feel free > to admin as co-admin to other hyphen-* in case something needs coor

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/5/23 09:35, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: "easily install from Flathub" brings us closer to Windows where you "easily" install software from random places on the Internet and they bring their own bundled outdated versions of libraries. Flatpaks have the added downside of not

Re: LibreOffice packages

I've taken up hyphen and the orphaned hyphen-* packages. They don't appear to be high maintenance, but co-admins welcome, of course. Similarly, feel free to admin as co-admin to other hyphen-* in case something needs coordinations. The language packages are basically a "cp" in

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 3:39 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 05/06/2023 13:54, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I'm not sure what led you to the conclusion that IBM has anything to > > do with this or that "they fired a lot of good engineers". I don't > > see evidence of either being the case. > >

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 05/06/2023 13:54, Josh Boyer wrote: I'm not sure what led you to the conclusion that IBM has anything to do with this or that "they fired a lot of good engineers". I don't see evidence of either being the case. Please don't state your own assumptions as facts.

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 2:43 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > We cannot ship anything from Flathub because > FESCo will not allow it. I don't *like* this FESCo requirement, but I > also don't expect that to change. I haven't studied that ruling, but perhaps the assumption was that said software is

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:45:28 -0500 Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I'm not going to defend callous layoffs during a time when Red Hat is > earning big profits. And I have no clue what our corporate overloads It is a fact of corporate life that if you are a manager and want to be promoted, cutting

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:56 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 03/06/2023 02:46, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote: > > No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with > > F39. Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep > > Fedora Diehards from

Re: LibreOffice packages

> I've taken ownership of libreoffice for the time being, at least to keep the > lights > on. Co-maintainers, as always, welcome. Don't know how much time I'll be able to contribute, but you can count me in. As Mattia suggested, I think it might be a good idea to set up libreoffice-sig. A.FI.

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 09:09:57AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > > Am 03.06.2023 um 02:06 schrieb Sandro : > > What will we ship in Fedora if we were to follow in Red Hat's > > footsteps? LibreOffice Flatpak? That may prove to be the straw > > that broke the camel's back. As I said before, I don't

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Saturday, 03 June 2023 at 14:42, Michael Catanzaro wrote: [...] > My $0.02: maintaining complex desktop applications as part of the operating > system requires significant effort and produces low value for users when you > can easily install that app from Flathub instead. (It *especially*

Re: LibreOffice packages

Il 02/06/23 09:22, Jiri Vanek ha scritto: > Damn thats a long list. > > Indeed. I can help and pick up a couple of packages, but what about the hunspell*, hyphen*, mythes*? I think those will require more work than what a volunteer packager can bring. Yet, I suspect dropping them will

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 9:09 AM Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that effort. Yes, but. In general, a better approach is to say "we plan on orphaning the packages in $timeframe&q

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 6/2/23 8:49 AM, Terry Bowling wrote: I appreciate and am empathetic to all of those carrying the burden of this and the thousands of other RPM packages.  As a users of Fedora + RPM Fusion + Cinnamon Desktop as my daily laptop driver since 2011, I love Fedora and am a heavy user of Flatpacks

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 9:09 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that effort. Yes, but. In general, a better approach is to say "we plan on orphaning the packages in $timeframe". Even if $timeframe is a week, it shifts t

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, Jun 3 2023 at 09:56:40 AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Yes, Fedora is dying. Slow, but imminent. IBM doesn't want to keep it in a good condition, so they fired a lot of good engineers. It's very sad. I have been using it for years. I'm not going to defend callous layoffs

Re: LibreOffice packages

On Sat, Jun 3 2023 at 10:26:07 AM -, John Iliopoulos wrote: Hello, While i completely understand why you do this i do think that it is important for desktop/workstation oriented devices to have some optional access to Office directly from the image file. Have you considered shipping

Re: LibreOffice packages

Hello, While i completely understand why you do this i do think that it is important for desktop/workstation oriented devices to have some optional access to Office directly from the image file. Have you considered shipping the LibreOffice flatpak via the ISO much like Fedora Silverblue does

Re: LibreOffice packages

Fedora >> Diehards from jumping to another popular distribution. > > Yes, Fedora is dying. Slow, but imminent. No, or only if we murder it. We have to adjust to a changing world. The first packages which were affected, was the Java stack. Our packaging ruleset fits less and less

Re: LibreOffice packages

On 03/06/2023 09:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: Did you read the whole thread?  It's not going anywhere.  People have stepped up to maintain it. LibreOffice is a complex project. It will be very difficult to maintain it. It's not just a trivial Version+Release bump, no. They will need to backport

Re: LibreOffice packages

, but imminent. IBM doesn't want to keep it in a good condition, so they fired a lot of good engineers. It's very sad. I have been using it for years. I'm thinking about orphaning all my packages (more than 70) too. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org

Re: LibreOffice packages

> If I understand the announcement correctly, future RHEL will not include > LibreOffice > anymore. That’s the reason, why the maintainers have withdrawn. > > > Instead of Flatpak I would prefer to pick up the software directly from the > project. LO > provides a rpm. Maybe we have to change

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