[digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread expeditionradio
Rud Merriam K5RUD Bluntly, you are ignoring the reality of trends in computer hardware. Hi Rud, There's no problem with the computer hardware, simply a problem with the commercially made interface between the computer and the radio. Any interface that deletes part of the transmit

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread Robert W. Strohmeyer
Well stated, Bonnie. 73 de Stro KO4FR - Original Message - From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:17 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes IMHO, it is ridiculous to suggest that the protocol

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread kh6ty
Bonnie, Rud Merriam k5rud wrote: Or the protocol implementers need to recognize the need to generate a tone to trigger the VOX. This would be analogous to the delay they provide for transmitter keying. Bonnie wrote: IMHO, it is ridiculous to suggest that the protocol implementers should

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
the symbol synchronization just before the frame reception (432 ms). - Original Message - From: Rud Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes Or the protocol

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread Sholto Fisher
I agree with Skip on this Bonnie, the Signalink interface is a very good digital interface and to write it off as a P.O.S is misinformed, disingenuous, just plain wrong and potentially damaging to a small US ham radio oriented company who manufacture quality products. Just to reiterate I have

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-27 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Just to add my two cents. I do have a SL-1 that is used only for MT63 and HELL. Having said that I have found no problem with it. Of course they are not ARQ modes. I do use ARQ modes a lot but also have the hardware to operate it. John, W0JAB

[digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bonnie, Does it really make that much difference? 73 Sholto. Yes, it really does make a difference :) Please see my previous explanation where I detailed the exact number of symbols that are deleted by

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread matt gregory
: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bonnie, Does it really make that much difference? 73 Sholto. Yes, it really does make a difference :) Please see my previous explanation where I detailed

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Sholto Fisher
Sorry to harp on about this but ALE400 has a baud rate of 50 (20ms length) and the VOX PTT is 28ms plus allowing for say a 12ms delay from a modern rig that is only 40ms total delay on transmit, just 2 symbols. From MultiPSK's help file: In ALE400 it is transmitted 28 symbols, alternately on

[digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread expeditionradio
matt gregory wrote: Bonnie what do you suggest using with out spend a whole lot i was also looking at the rigblaster plug and play usb MATTHEW A. GREGORY KC2PUA Hi Matthew, The Rigblaster Plug N Play is an excellent choice. Almost any of the interfaces that include PTT using

[digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread expeditionradio
Sholto Fisher wrote: I can't believe it makes any significant difference at least for ALE400 FAE. Hi Sholto, Whether you believe it or not, that's up to you. But the math doesn't lie, and neither does the oscilloscope. IMHO, any interface that chops off part of your transmission, for

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Patrick Lindecker
PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes Sholto Fisher wrote: I can't believe it makes any significant difference at least for ALE400 FAE. Hi Sholto, Whether you believe it or not, that's up

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Rud Merriam
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of expeditionradio Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:26 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes Sholto Fisher wrote: I can't believe it makes any significant difference

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Bob Donnell
radios are still locking their PLL's up... -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Lindecker Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:40 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

[digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread expeditionradio
IMHO, it is ridiculous to suggest that the protocol implementers should change the protocol to add overhead to accept cheapo bogus hardware. In many cases, the excellent worldwide standards have already been set, and the proliferation of sub-standard interfaces on the market is not going

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes

2008-08-26 Thread Rud Merriam
, 2008 11:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Signalink No Good for ARQ Modes IMHO, it is ridiculous to suggest that the protocol implementers should change the protocol to add overhead to accept cheapo bogus hardware. In many cases, the excellent worldwide