Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Mel Flynn wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 05:27:55 Erik Trulsson wrote: The amd64 architecture is called that because it was AMD who invented and created it and was for a while the only one using it and since AMD named the architecture AMD64 that was the name FreeBSD used too. Later

Re: Some problems with Marvell Yukon NIC

2009-08-06 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:44:15PM +0300, Anton typed: Hello freebsd-questions, Found the solution here: [1]http ://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-10/msg01065 .html But do not know how to apply patch :-( The URL you posted says it all: Save

Re: eclipse install (broken ports tree)

2009-08-06 Thread Coert Waagmeester
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:50 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:53:22 Coert Waagmeester wrote: I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. I believe you have a defective ports tree. You should have the following file:

Re: eclipse install

2009-08-06 Thread Roger Olofsson
Coert Waagmeester skrev: Hello all, What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. Regards, Coert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread perryh
Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: ... PowerPC is dead ... I suspect both IBM and Freescale would beg to differ :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Many people's only familiarity with computers in general will be from a Windows centric perspective. Somehow there is a tendency to believe that inserting a CD, booting, and then proceeding to click OK in a dialog box a few dozen times makes them some kind of expert when they successfully

Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Randall Wood wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0200, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: Has anyone tested Arora? I'm actually surprised no one has recommended Konqueror. It's not my favorite browser (I happen to love Opera) but it would seem to mostly fit the bill of fast,

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: ... PowerPC is dead ... Well yes (lousy excuse coming up!) I meant in the PC/Mac world... ;-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. [snip] To achieve this, there are two things that should be made

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)

2009-08-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. HTH HAND Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.

Re: Opera in your repos

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Frank Shute wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:43:05AM -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: [snip] Well, we can start to agree that FreeBSD is not a distro, but a UNIX operating system. :) We can't quite agree on that ;) BSD=Berkeley Software Distribution AKA distro of Unix At least the

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Matthew Seaman wrote: Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. HTH HAND Matthew Nice

Re: eclipse install (SOLVED broken ports tree)

2009-08-06 Thread Coert Waagmeester
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 09:08 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:50 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:53:22 Coert Waagmeester wrote: I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. I believe

Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Miguel
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: Your best bet is to poll the mobile list (CC'd) to see if anyone was able to get FreeBSD working on this laptop (or even to know whether this is a lost cause till somebody makes some patches for this

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 14:35:40 Mark Stapper wrote: Mel Flynn wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 05:27:55 Erik Trulsson wrote: The amd64 architecture is called that because it was AMD who invented and created it and was for a while the only one Now I come to think of it, isn't it

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Stapper
Erich Dollansky wrote: Because people using them, new what they were doing. And probably didn't care... IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the Itanium? The one that didn't stick... indeed. Yes, also Intel can fail. Intel also failed with their first 32 bit

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 16:40:41 Mark Stapper wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the Itanium? The one that didn't stick... indeed. do they really sell machines with this CPU in numbers? I have not seen one in the wild. Yes, also

Re: Secure password generation...blasphemy!

2009-08-06 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:39:38AM -0600, Modulok wrote: But I'm also looking for a good way to generate high quality crypto keys. In the later case, the data being protected are disk images of clients...mountains of sensitive data. These will be on USB keys, and thus do not need to be

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:18:09PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 16:40:41 Mark Stapper wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the Itanium? The one that didn't stick... indeed. do they really sell

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeownj.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Neal Hogan
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Ivailo Bonev
- Original Message - From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com To: Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2overwrites partitions) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at

Re: ftps ?

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:02:58 +0300, Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com a écrit : # grep ftps /etc/services ftps-data 989/tcp# ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL ftps-data 989/udp ftps990/tcp# ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL ftps990/udp

amd64 native ports?

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Huff
Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I can't find it by hand. Anyone have the URL handy? Respectfully,

Re: amd64 native ports?

2009-08-06 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 06 August 2009 10:19:47 Robert Huff wrote: Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I can't find it by hand.

Re: amd64 native ports?

2009-08-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:19:47AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I can't find it by

Freebsd-update fetch failed...

2009-08-06 Thread Marc Coyles
Evening folks... have just built up a new 7.0-RELEASE box, and have gone to update it to 7.0-RELEASEp11, however, whenever I run freebsd-update fetch I get the following: bigsis2# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for

Re: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ?

2009-08-06 Thread Kalle Møller
Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with plist ... Except it seemd to be a list of the files used ?? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.netmel.flynn%2bfbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 10:35:02

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Modulok
[snip] In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer

Re: eclipse install (SOLVED broken ports tree)

2009-08-06 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 00:07:33 Coert Waagmeester wrote: I have PKGDIR variable exported. Ack, yeah. Should've thought of that. It's a badly chosen variable name for pkg_add. You could make an alias though: alias pkg_keep='env PKGDIR=/path/to/whatever pkg_add -K' -- Mel

Re: amd64 native ports?

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Huff
John Nielsen wrote: There's always the build logs on pointyhat: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ And some reports here: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/index.html These are not the droids I'm looking for. As I remember the page, it has three columns: the port name, the

Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
Well, the bad day has come... My primary server won't boot. I have backups of databases and user directories, but I need to try to get this server back up again. During the boot sequence, it freezes at the statement: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a I tried booting into single

Re: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ?

2009-08-06 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Kalle Møller wrote: Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with plist ... Except it seemd to be a list of the files used ?? Pretty much, the porters handbook has a decent section on it if your interested. Any installed files except man pages and documentation (which are specified in

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Identry wrote: Well, the bad day has come... My primary server won't boot. I have backups of databases and user directories, but I need to try to get this server back up again. During the boot sequence, it freezes at the statement: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a I

Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Miguel
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Ben Fallonbfal...@itbuildersinc.com wrote: Might want to take a look at this page as it may provide a bit more insight. The problem isn't with the Machine specifically but with the ATI Sata Controller/Chipset.  Not sure if this has been fixed yet.

RE: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Ben Fallon
Might want to take a look at this page as it may provide a bit more insight. The problem isn't with the Machine specifically but with the ATI Sata Controller/Chipset. Not sure if this has been fixed yet. http://www.mavetju.org/mail/view_message.php?list=freebsd-currentid=2740699

Physically securing FreeBSD workstations /boot/boot2

2009-08-06 Thread Nerius Landys
Hi. I am attempting to secure some workstations in such a way that a user would not be able gain full control of the computer (only user access). However, they are able to see and touch the physical workstation. Things I'm trying to avoid, to list a couple of examples: 1. Go to BIOS settings

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)

2009-08-06 Thread Al Plant
Bernt Hansson wrote: Matthew Seaman skrev: Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. Have a look at Manolis Kiagias

Re: Physically securing FreeBSD workstations /boot/boot2

2009-08-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/6/09, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I am attempting to secure some workstations in such a way that a user would not be able gain full control of the computer (only user access). However, they are able to see and touch the physical workstation. Things I'm trying to avoid, to

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)

2009-08-06 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Al Plant wrote: Bernt Hansson wrote: Matthew Seaman skrev: Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. Have a look

Re: Physically securing FreeBSD workstations /boot/boot2

2009-08-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:35:55PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: On 8/6/09, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I am attempting to secure some workstations in such a way that a user would not be able gain full control of the computer (only user access). However, they are able to see and

Mouse still crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-06 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. This is a real mess. Nobody gives me any help and I do not know what to try any further. I reduced the problem to the following behaviour: # dd

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a controller issue. If you can then its probably your OS/kernel but at least you now have access to your data/configs etc etc

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:59 +0200, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified package manager. If you're talking about PBI, that's what the average user expects: You open a web browser (d'oh), search for what you

Expert in Manhattan?

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
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Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread James Phillips
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: Message: 16 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:41:12 -0500 From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2     overwrites partitions)

Need FreeBSD troubleshooting expert in Manhattan

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
I have a server in Manhattan (NYI.net) that isn't booting. I'm trying to fix it (not making any changes until I'm absolutely sure I know what the problem is and how to fix it), but I have the feeling that this problem may be beyond my relatively limited admin skills. If you are a very experienced

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:48:10 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: I should however note that although this work takes out most of the compiling steps (and I plan to expand the range of pre-built packages soon), it is still not a common man's OS, as all the configuration steps are

Re: Opera in your repos

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:46:05 +0100, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: At least the OP didn't make the faux pas of calling FreeBSD a Linux distro like one of his colleagues did a couple of years ago on this list. I've seen this in a german Linux magazine, titeling in a way similar to this:

Re: foot-shot?

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:51:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping everything current is painful. If you're not running a

Re: eclipse install

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:53:23 +0200, Peter Boosten pe...@boosten.org wrote: Polytropon wrote: On FreeBSD, you don't need to download things manually via a web browser in this old fashioned way. :-) Unfortunately this is not true for the jdk. But it's only a minor disadvantage ;-) Sadly,

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Neal Hogan
inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many years (over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number). I have been struggling to use FreeBSD for a shorter amount of time (for a fileserver). I was originally attracted to OpenBSD for security. However, OpenBSD users are

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
Identry wrote: During the boot sequence, it freezes at the statement:     Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:31:49PM -0400, Identry wrote: Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a controller issue. If you can then its probably your OS/kernel but

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread RW
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:14:49 +0100 David Southwell da...@vizion2000.net wrote: Hi every one My understanding is that one uses the amd64 for building a kernel for systems with Intel Quad Core processors. It is helpful when naming conventions follow a logical strand. I mean why does freebsd

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread James Phillips
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: So, this long story boils down to the following question: What is that best way to use the handbook and related documentation (like man-pages)? What?! Ummm . . . read them. I'm not trying to be too big of a dick, but

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Neal Hogan
How do you expect to get comfortable w/out playing around, other than, I guess (a'la above) reading the documentation? Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing around on my workstation that would be a separate computer. I want to build myself a sand-box so

Re: Physically securing FreeBSD workstations /boot/boot2

2009-08-06 Thread Erik Norgaard
Nerius Landys wrote: Hi. I am attempting to secure some workstations in such a way that a user would not be able gain full control of the computer (only user access). However, they are able to see and touch the physical workstation. I assume that users cannot tingle with the hardware, take it

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Powell
Identry wrote: Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a controller issue. If you can then its probably your OS/kernel but at least you now have access to your

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Manolis Kiagias
James Phillips wrote: Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing around on my workstation that would be a separate computer. I want to build myself a sand-box so I don't have to worry about breaking stuff that is unrelated. Another way of asking the question:

Re: Mouse still crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-06 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 12:46:21 Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. This is a real mess. Nobody gives me any help and I do not know what to try any further.

Freebsd expert in Manhattan?

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
I've got a server in lower manhattan (at NYI.net datacenter) that hangs when trying to mount the root partition. I'm working on it right now, but have a feeling this may be beyond my limited admin skills, and I really need this server back online ASAP. Might be time to hire a professional. Can

Re: Hi how are you

2009-08-06 Thread ambur
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Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:41 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips anti_spam...@yahoo.ca wrote: I was also attracted to BSD because I knew from my brief stint at university that the BSD man-pages were actually kept up to date. As a developer, documentation is VERY important to me. That's why I love

KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:41:40 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips anti_spam...@yahoo.ca wrote: Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing around on my workstation that would be a separate computer. The default installation of FreeBSD covers most cases. I want to build

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:31:12 -0400, Identry jalmb...@identry.com wrote: I've booted the install CD1 and found something called 'fixit' mode. I've been googling, but can't seem to find any info on 'fixit'. Is it possible to use this instead of a livefs disk? As far as I remember, that's correct.

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the fact Windows forces the users (and admins) to a completely different way of thinking than FreeBSD. That's true. It's even hard to communicate with 'Windows'

Re: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core

2009-08-06 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 19:07:12 Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:18:09PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 06 August 2009 pm 16:40:41 Mark Stapper wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the Itanium? The one that

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior

Re: foot-shot?

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:14:15AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:51:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory folder). FreeBSD has directories, not folders. :-) -- Polytropon

Re: foot-shot?

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:25:07 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Super! just offhand, can i install PCSD *over* thius FBSd --7.1--? Keep /usr/home and so on? basically yes. Check if the installer allows you NOT to format the partition where you have your home directories. If

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 11:21:14PM +, Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? i have a me-too here. i don't

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-06 Thread Identry
Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a controller issue. If you can then its probably your OS/kernel but at least you now have access to your data/configs etc etc

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel Underwood
Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for a lifetime. :-) Amen. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? Wait a week I'd say. KDE 4.3.0 has hit the ports

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Polytroponfree...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory

Strange timing when reading from the serial port

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, I have a device that sends one byte over the serial line every 10ms. Using c, I wrote an application that opens the serial port and reads bytes in an infinite loop. I disabled all blocking (O_NONBLOCK, VMIN=0, VTIME=0, B115200). My CPU spends ~100% of its time calling read() [which

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Modulok
[snip] Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for a lifetime. :-) [/snip] It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the servers back home craping out :) -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is

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Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:25:38PM -0600, Modulok wrote: [snip] Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for a lifetime. :-) [/snip] It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the servers back home craping out :) -Modulok- Really.

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory