Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: There was an idea brainstormed a little while back with me and a few other folks about seeking funding to have a Wiki Loves Women photography event that wanted photographers to take photographs of women - and this

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-06 Thread Sarah Stierch
On 5/6/12 1:07 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote: On 5/2/2012 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad Where are women laughing as they chop up bloody sausage... To me I guess I see hostility and dominance in the kind of shots people

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-06 Thread Béria Lima
Good idea Sarah. Prove everyone in the world we don't even have enough woman in the 9% of editors who can take a picture of some trivial thing. Prove the world the only way to have picture of girls in commons is hiring models and photographers to take them. I have NO idea why no one thought of

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-06 Thread Emily Monroe
Excuse me, Beria, but I agree that your tone is, in fact, highly inappropriate. From, Emily On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: Sarah, until i tell you to fuck off I'm being respectful to you. Actually the simple meaning of taking time in my volunteer,

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-06 Thread Béria Lima
This is highly inappropriate: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beriadiff=3706794oldid=3691439(at that is just the last one, I can give you both a pile bigger than the Everest) And none of you are seing me complain about it. A single mail with irony and you run around claiming

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-06 Thread Emily Monroe
Of course, that's inappropriate and rude. So were you, but we all know that you know better. From, Emily On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: This is highly inappropriate:

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
That's a good point. Even here in San Francisco it's much easier to find female nudity in art and advertising than male nudity. I just wish people would stick to commenting on the art instead of the woman's body. Ryan Kaldari On 5/2/12 12:40 AM, Caroline Becker wrote: The problem is, we live

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Thomas Morton
Is there a perception bias here? There are many many fine art nudes of men in existence. And if you look at the body of work for nude sculpture then many are male - Pope Pius IX was so enraged by this he even went around sticking fig leaves over all the cocks in the vatican*, an utter travesty

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Heather Walls
Advertising not sexist. Really. I realize this is a tangent, but if I am going to see cumshot in my email list a few more times, I might as well join in. Hi all! Heather On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote: Is there a perception bias here?

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Thomas Morton
Advertising not sexist. Really. Well I'd be interested to hear rational arguments that it is... I've always found advertising to be highly sexualised, but refreshingly free of sexism. Tom ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Alison Cassidy
On May 2, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Advertising not sexist. Really. Well I'd be interested to hear rational arguments that it is... I've always found advertising to be highly sexualised, but refreshingly free of sexism. You're kidding, right? Advertising is so jam-loaded

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Ryan Kaldari On 5/2/12 2:20 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Advertising not sexist. Really. Well I'd be interested to hear rational arguments that it is... I've always

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Thomas Morton
On 2 May 2012 22:22, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: I've always found advertising to be highly sexualised, but refreshingly free of sexism. I tend to agree with Heather...this strains credibility. It's hard to know whether to

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Thomas Morton
On 2 May 2012 22:27, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: ** Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Ryan Kaldari *sigh* well I entirely agree with Alison's point. But that one is definitely perception

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Seriously though, it doesn't seem that controversial to say that mainstream advertising heavily skews to female nudity. Next time you pass a magazine stand, count the

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Thomas Morton
On 2 May 2012 22:36, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: ** Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Seriously though, it doesn't seem that controversial to say that mainstream advertising heavily skews

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On 5/2/12 2:38 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 2 May 2012 22:36, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Seriously though, it

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Wonderful. Don't miss http://thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with-salad Andreas On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: ** Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-05-01 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Speaking of gender and nudity, it seems the bias towards female nudity at en.wiki's Featured Picture Candidates is still as strong as ever. And check out the quality comments at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/The_Pearl_and_the_Wave After you guys are

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: No one here has commented on the fact that the German Wikipedia article uses a special, local version of one of Seedfeeder's images. The German

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-29 Thread Michelle Gallaway
This is a great idea. We'll see if the bleating that the image is educational is quite so strong if it's male-on-male ;-) On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: On 4/27/2012 3:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-29 Thread Béria Lima
As far as I remember the nake-hub of commons (As i call it) has no problem at all with homosexuality. Who has the problem is the other side of commons, the puritans (several here in that list) who cant see a naked picture - wherever is there is a man, a woman, a hetero sex relation, a gay or

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-28 Thread Paolo Massa
If you are curious about the images used in the same article on other language editions of Wikipedia you can use Manypedia. For the page Cumshot, it seems currently the same image is used on all language editions, while the Spanish one uses one more image http://www.manypedia.com/#|en|Cumshot|es

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-28 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: No one here has commented on the fact that the German Wikipedia article uses a special, local version of one of Seedfeeder's images. The German version is more amateurish, and a little more nasty. Compare:

[Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Katrin Rönicke
Hey everybody, a friend of mine sent me a notice: the Wikipedia article Cumshot has a picture which in my humble opinion is nothing else than pornography. once again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumshot I already tried to delete it from the German Wikipedia - but its being restored

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Emily Monroe
While the picture could be described as somewhat pornographic, I'll have to agree with previous participants in this email conversation. This article IS porn-related, so a pornographic cartoon can be used to illustrate it, per WP:NOTCENSORED. From, Emily On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Carol

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Sarah Stierch
Perhaps the conversation should be more about equal representation of gender in articles like this... Just a thought :) Sarah Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) On Apr 27, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Emily Monroe emilymonro...@gmail.com wrote: While the picture

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles. Andreas On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: NO need to censor it. Just do a second one with bushier eyebrows and a goatee and put that up instead :-) On

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Pete Forsyth
I agree with what Beria says here. And I think it's a very important distinction, especially when comparing to Sue's blog post. Sue's post was about the article pregnancy -- not an article about pornography. On a personal level, I happen to agree with you that there's lots of pornographic

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Morton
On 27 April 2012 20:54, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: *Perhaps the conversation should be more about equal representation of gender in articles like this...* Should I ask what the appropriate equal representation in this case might be? Female to male.ejaculation? _ I

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
A Google image search for gay cumshot indicates there are 37.8 million results. Cumshot -gay has 44 million. If these numbers are correct, then gay and non-gay cumshots are almost equally common online, and it's a toss-up (pun intended) as to which we should use. There are really two separate

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Theo10011
Hi Andreas Some observations- On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: A Google image search for gay cumshot indicates there are 37.8 million results. Cumshot -gay has 44 million. If these numbers are correct, then gay and non-gay cumshots are almost equally

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Laura Hale
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 27 April 2012 20:54, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: *Perhaps the conversation should be more about equal representation of gender in articles like this...* Should I ask what the appropriate

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Fun fact: Female ejaculation is the most viewed Wikipedia article related in any way to feminism (at least since WikiProject Feminism started keeping stats). It's 3 times as popular as the next article on the list, Abortion. Ryan Kaldari On 4/27/12 2:52 PM, Laura Hale wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: ** Fun fact: Female ejaculation is the most viewed Wikipedia article related in any way to feminism (at least since WikiProject Feminism started keeping stats). It's 3 times as popular as the next article on the list,

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Carol Moore DC
On 4/27/2012 3:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay porn is underrepresented in these articles. Andreas So if I was too implicit in my statement. As Andreas surmised, I meant re-do that photo to make it male on male. Or do a second one that's male on male. Go

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

2012-04-27 Thread Emily Monroe
I'm not sure the technical term for it either, but the laymen's term is female ejactulation. *shrugs* From, Emily On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: On 4/27/2012 3:45 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I could have a go again, Carol. :) Gay porn is