If
that is the case, hurray! ("the same holds true for SPF").
That's
the purpose of SPF. It was never intended to prevent spam, and can't really,
because - as you've seen - spammers can set up SPF records as well. What it does
provide is the identity of the originating system. Now, with
Or something has the mailbox file locked...
I'd try stopping all IMail services and restarting them to see if
that clears the problem. If it does not, then something other
than IMail has possession of the users file.
Daniel Donnelly
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I think the only thing Reverse DNS and SPF prove is that
the Mail Admin knows how to set it up. Until a third party gets involved
to certify mail servers these settingsare only confusing the system by
adding a false sense of security.
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't there three types
Is this why you guys seem to have abandoned updating the filters for people
not paying for the premium anti-spam or using Imail 8.1x
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030513-DM01.htm
Last time these filters were updated was nearly two months ago on 10/12/2005
At 06:11 PM 11/8/2005, you
A new one should be out by tomorrow.
George
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Riddle
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:22 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail and Antispam...
Is this why you guys
I am not unhappy with Imail more so than concerned about it's
continually increasing price. Imail has served us well over the past
several years but the company has either too much overhead or too much
greed. Whichever the case the fact remains that Smartermail has a
quality product for a lot
I was a little confused about the pricing structure, however if you do not
need the third party antivirus filtering and third party spam filtering from
Symantec, the price is the same to upgrade the mail server. The expense is
the licensing for the virus and spam filtering from the third party.
I am not unhappy with Imail more so than concerned about it's continually
increasing price. Imail has served us well over the past several years but
the company has either too much overhead or too much greed. Whichever the
case the fact remains that Smartermail has a quality product for a lot
Bryant,
The only time I have trouble with ASP email is when I stupidly change
the password to the authentication account that I set up and don't
change the settings in the associated configuration file. Is this the
type of problem you are having? Otherwise, I find ASP Email works
wonderfully with
Mike,
I'm not sure how you can claim that when you do not know what the pricing is
for Imail's upcoming SA in 2006. If you knew what the planned renewal rate
was for unlimited users, I'm guessing that you would quickly drop any kind
of argument based upon price.
I do hope that they eventually
Because you can purchase a service agreement right now for 695.00 or less.
Mike
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From: William Van Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
Mike,
I'm not
We dumped imail in favor of smartermail. CPU resource on the server is now
much, much lower. We can send ten times the numbers of emails in the same
time it took imail to spool out the mail. Smartermail is much less
expensive too. As far as features go we haven't really found anything that
How was the migration to SmarterMail? Pretty straight forward? I am
playing with the demo myself and am very happy with it and the PRICE! I can
afford an email server software again.
What add-ons are you using for AV and/or Antispam? Is it included? I see
Declude works with the, but it is
Is anyone who knows willing to spill the beans on what the new pricing will
be on an SA for IMail 2006 unlimited (no anti-virus)? Should I buy the SA
now or wait for the price change?
Thanks,
Mike
At 12:38 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
Because you can purchase a service agreement right now for
Hi Travis,
How was the migration to SmarterMail? Pretty straight forward? I am
playing with the demo myself and am very happy with it and the PRICE! I
can
afford an email server software again.
The migration was a breeze using smartermail's utility for migrating from
imail. We did it
Is there a way to set IMAIL time zones to match the time zone of each
individual email set up?
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How much is SmarterMail offhand (for an unlimited package? (Their
website seems to want me to give the an email address, etc..) Does it work
in a similar way to imail with IIS-like virtual-mail servers?
Also (offhand if you know) can you create SmarterMail virtual mail
servers via
I need/want to know this as well.
Why not prepare us if it is a huge leap?
Steinar
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen
Sent: 9. november 2005 20:25
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming
http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/Pricing.aspx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Naugler
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
Hi Dave,
We're working on a spam review app one we intend to release in December.
Initially it will be for IMail, but we should be able to release a
SmarterMail version shortly thereafter. It should just be a matter of minor
configuration changes to work with SmarterMail, so the initial release
Looks like they just updated it:
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030513-DM01.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Riddle
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:22 AM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
Does Imail 8.12 support CRAM-MD5 for POP3 connections?
I know it is supposed to for SMTP and IMAP, but I can't find anything
about POP3 support.
Thanks,
David Ladiges
Network Manager - Mindfly, Inc.
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On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 10:15:17, Mike Odryna wrote:
...
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't there three types of reverse DNS
checks.
...
2.Check to see if the sending server is listed in the MX record of
the email domain.
There is absolutely no requirement that an e-mail
Even better:
http://www.servertastic.com/store/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1P_ID=125#p
rices
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:02 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail
Unfortunately it does not integrate a third party company that manually
updates spam definitions in 30 languages with 1 in 100,000 false positives.
I'm going with IMAIL, price isn't everything.
Mike
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From: Jerod M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
On 11/9/05, Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still lurk on this list as sometimes there are general email topics that I
find useful.
I have exactly the same story. I was approached a few months back
with an offer to sell me a SA and I declined. To put trust back into
a company after
On 11/9/05, Jerod M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even better:
http://www.servertastic.com/store/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1P_ID=125#prices
There is a web host named Crystaltech that has a variety of dedicated
servers available. They have a unit available for $79/month --
admittedly a
How funny. I have basically done the same thing. I honestly should sell
the Imail license. Basically for what I use it for I could go buy the
smartermail license, get more features, and save $$$.
Bryan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
I think there is some confusion about the product. For those not aware,
there are companies that provide manual spam filtering and we all understand
anti virus. Obviously it costs money to license that stuff. I am not aware
of anything that you can get 1 out of 100,000 false positives with
For the unlimited user level, you will be better off purchasing a Imail
Professional SA now while they are still available.
John T
eServices For You
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen
Sent: Wednesday,
I have only discovered this mailing list in the last week or so, but it
is turning out to be like an emotional support group.
I had glanced at and deleted the Ipswitch newsspamletters regarding
ICS...besides inadequate command-line creation tools for SQL backended
Imail, the lack of an
This is the least expensive unlimited SA I have found
http://www.apc-usa.net/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=112501
Has anyone had experience with this company (Advanced PC)?
Mike
At 05:29 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
For the unlimited user level, you will be better off purchasing a Imail
Hi,
We also tested SmarterMail and it's a great and a very affordable product. To
have a good anti spam solution, SmarterMail needs a 3 Party product. The build
in anti spam are not really on the same level as IMail 2006 will be. This
relates the cheap price of SmarterMail a bit.
I think, the
Nope, but
http://geek.pricegrabber.com/rating_getreview.php/r=3431
Darin.
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From: Michael Graveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
This is the least
Darin,
That's great news. I'm a software developer and I spent 25 years
evaluating, recommending, installing, testing, configuring and supporting
hundreds (perhaps thousands) of 3rd party software packages.
If you need a smartermail test dummy for your application please count me
in.
Dave
Responding to several posts and further information. What I am going to post
is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read, those I have
talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my gut
feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big.
First of all, we all know
Thanks for the info. Looks like the $19.00 handling fee is the biggest
complaint. I see they also want 18.00 to ship the service agreement. They
still may have lowest overall price though. I have some shopping to do.
Mike
At 06:10 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
Nope, but
I think it's going to cost us about 2800.00 to do 1,000 users with the Email
and AV/ and Premium Anti Spam.
Seems a little pricey, but if the 1 in 100,000 false positives with little
spam works, I have several customers that won't care.
Mike
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Mike,
That all depends upon your long-term plans. Trust me, the $695 is an
absolute bargain compared to what the new prices are proposed to be in 2006.
If you are dead-set on sticking with IMail for at least the next year, now
is definitely the time to upgrade.
If you are looking further down
If you are looking further down the road and actually asking yourself if
you can afford to keep paying a LOT more than that for an SA in 2006,
It's only going to be about 2995.00 for 1,000 users with AV and Premium spam
filtering. Are you aware of any other product that has manned employees
So William I'm curious - what do u plan on doing with your automated
blacklist file u have had up and free to us all for all this time?
I have used it in the past (manually, no script). Will it work with
smartermail, and/or has anyone tried?
Thanks,
Bryan
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William,
Thanks for your input. After finding out the price for IMail 2006
unlimited SA, I've decided to renew my service agreement at the current
prices (before the increase). I've been using IMail since version3.x, my
clients like it and are used to it. I still think it's great software,
On 11/9/05, Mike Biddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think there is some confusion about the product. For those not aware,
there are companies that provide manual spam filtering and we all understand
anti virus. Obviously it costs money to license that stuff. I am not aware
of anything that you
Bryan,
I have no plans to dump Imail altogether. At least not right away. Unless
things change drastically, I will likely continue using Imail as a cheap
(already paid for) platform for antivirus scanning (thanks to MxGuard!) and
do some content checks that are simply not feasible at this time to
Out of curiosity I went through the process... it was $7 handling in
addition to the $18 shipping. They gouge on that, but are still the
cheapest I've seen by about $20.
Darin.
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From: Michael Graveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent:
Mike,
It's two bad that you can't just buy a TWO YEAR extension at $695 per year
right now. That would make the upcoming price increases much easier to
swallow for those who want to commit long-term right now (and that can
afford it).
WVH
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From: [EMAIL
Thanks William for this and for the work u've done with the free URL list.
I invested in Imail originally b/c it was the only thing of its kind (back
in the 3.x-7.x days) and it kicked PostOffice's butt which I migrated from.
I stopped throwing any $ at it aside from mxguard which was pretty much
Hi David,
The best way to do this is to be running the same version on both machines
and then do the migration. Whether that be 9.0 on the old to 9.0 on the new
or 8.21 to 8.21. Here's a good kb on this.
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-JB11.htm
I'd recommend that you install 8.21
Hi All,
If anyone is interested in doing this, please let me know and we'll take
care of it.
However, for those in the lower tiers, you should wait until the new pricing
comes before renewing.
I can be reached at 781.676.5739 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bye for now,
kg
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I'd recommend you run 8.21 for a while until any bugs are stomped on
with a new version of software.
Kevin Gillis wrote:
Hi David,
The best way to do this is to be running the same version on both machines
and then do the migration. Whether that be 9.0 on the old to 9.0 on the new
or 8.21
Well that's good news. I was quoting the $19.00 handling fee from the
reviews. I'll probably order from them.
Thanks,
Mike
At 08:56 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
Out of curiosity I went through the process... it was $7 handling in
addition to the $18 shipping. They gouge on that, but are still
iPlus Info Browser v4.6 Update
Some of you asked for a report that would allow you to push a list of valid
IMail users to another IMail server that was configured as a Bastion Host.
The purpose of this would be to make your Bastion Host a smart host in
that it would be able to reject email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although IMail will reparse this on-the-fly, this is an RFC-illegal
address. It should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- the square brackets denote
an address literal. It would be best to put this in RFC format, in
case IMail stops accepting the other format.
--Sandy
snip
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:11 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail and Antispam...
Hi All,
Regarding this, wanted to add some comments:
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