Yes, but I want to make it a domain filter so as not to interfere with the
users' filters. The problem I'm having is it looks like IMail is
by-passing the domain filter when there's a nobody alias. I'm trying to
verify whether this is true.
At 03:11 PM 7/7/2004, you wrote:
Not sure if it
At 03:43 PM 7/7/2004, you wrote:
If you're going to delete anything that's not correctly addressed, why not
just get rid of the nobody alias and let the server just
reject anything that's not properly addressed at the SMTP session like it
should?
Chris
Yes, that seems reasonable, however, it
OT: Anybody know if there's a way to prevent Microsoft SMTP service from logging to
the SYSTEM event log on Windows 2003 Server? It already has it's own smtp logs, but
it also puts connection failures, etc. into the system event log and on a busy server
it's difficult to see other system
Yes, that seems reasonable, however, it also allows the spammer to know
which addresses work. By accepting everything, they can't remove addresses
that don't exist and thus refine their list. It means more lines in my log
files, but I'm hoping to do my part to fight spam.
Perhaps you
Oblio wrote:
At 03:43 PM 7/7/2004, you wrote:
If you're going to delete anything that's not correctly addressed, why
not just get rid of the nobody alias and let the server just
reject anything that's not properly addressed at the SMTP session like
it should?
Chris
Yes, that seems reasonable,
If it was FTP it would be easy, but I don't know how to do it via HTTP.
Wget?
http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html
That's what we use to update several files that we use, especially Sniffer
(Declude external test).
Below is a modified version of the batch file we use to update Sniffer.
Using this updated list I've found that it is catching wwwapps.ups.com
which is used by UPS to send out Ship Notifications. Just wondering how
this got in the list.
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Van
Hefner
Sent: Tuesday,
OH, yeah, you also have to create a sendgood.txt and a sendbadl.txt with
the body of the email you want to send (if you choose to use BLAT).
Also note that some of the lines will wrap in the email, so those will need
fixin'.
-Dan Horne
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Using this updated list I've found that it is catching wwwapps.ups.com
which is used by UPS to send out Ship Notifications. Just wondering how
this got in the list.
That's pretty easy. A spammer sent out a spam with wwwapps.ups.com in it
(perhaps hoping to get whitelisted, perhaps hoping the
R. Scott Perry wrote:
Yes, your hardware should definitely handle the load that you have.
With your hardware, you should be able to scan about 200,000 E-mails/day
complete with spam and virus scanning. So something is definitely not
working properly.
Interesting. We're not even doing
At 10:02 AM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
In this day and age spammers are spoofing the from address any way and not
seeing the bounce messages. Most junk is coming from open proxies or
compromised machines. The so called marketers are still list washing but
IMO it's not worth the extra burden you are
At 09:54 AM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
Perhaps you should make the server an open relay, then delete all the mail.
Ok, that's just a troll. WTF is your damage? This is precisely the reason
that people don't want to post reasons for doing what they are doing. I
didn't ask for a smart-ass comment,
Jeff,
Am not sure how that one got in there. One weakness that I will admit to
with the list is that I started out with one of the first versions of
IMail's url-domain-bl.txt as the list's base. Although I cleaned it up as
best as I could, sometimes I still find stuff lingering in there. Not very
Here is that same bat file attached as a txt file to avoid the line wraps.
--BEGIN Batch---
M:
cd Imail
set RETRY=1
goto Start
:Start
:: If we have retried 3 times already, notify via email that the download failed.
if %RETRY%==4 goto Donebad
echo -Download attempt
Marc A. Funaro wrote:
OT: Anybody know if there's a way to prevent Microsoft SMTP service from logging to
the SYSTEM event log on Windows 2003 Server? It already has it's own smtp logs, but
it also puts connection failures, etc. into the system event log and on a busy server
it's difficult to
Yes, that seems reasonable, however, it also allows the spammer to know
which addresses work.
knowing a valid recipient address is not sufficient information for anybody
to deliver to that address, is it? (your MX defensive policies are there to
prevent that), so don't waste your time on a
Matt,
Wish I could be of more help on getting the service started. I have been
using IMail for a LONG time. I actually got started on it back on ver 4.0 or
so. I worked at this cheap-o local ISP that used a 30 day demo version of
IMail as its primary mail server. In order to keep the demo
Cool, thanks for sharing your list with all of us. I've had a much
better success rate with it than with Ipswitch's list.
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Van
Hefner
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By accepting everything, they can't remove addresses that don't
exist and thus refine their list. It means more lines in my log
files, but I'm hoping to do my part to fight spam.
A fallacy. 'Nobody' does not fight spam in any way.
--Sandy
OT: Anybody know if there's a way to prevent Microsoft SMTP service
from logging to the SYSTEM event log on Windows 2003 Server?
Remove the SMTPSVC perf counters using Exctrlst:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/exctrlst-o.asp
This will not suppress
it also allows the spammer to know which addresses work
That may be so, but if the spammer is using an automated system that says
if a message is accepted to an address, add that address to my database,
then when EVERY message a spammer sends to you is accepted, the spammer will
continue to send
Oblio wrote:
At 10:02 AM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
In this day and age spammers are spoofing the from address any way and
not seeing the bounce messages. Most junk is coming from open proxies
or compromised machines. The so called marketers are still list
washing but IMO it's not worth the extra
Len's right about having nobody@ bite you in the long run...
But note that any messages processed by a rule doesn't get processed by
another rule...so domain filters not interfering with users filter is
pretty much impossible
gd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
consider splitting your rules up
domain rules to filter attachments, kill DNSBL-tagged mail only. This will let
properly addressed mail that doesn't fail these
tests to correctly deliver to the intended recipient mailbox
then on your junk mailbox to which your nobody alias is pointed you
We just tried to do the upgrade to 8.12. Having some issues getting LDAP
service to start. We currently do not have LDAP setup through IMail but are
making our move that way due to a server issue with our old LDAP. Anyone
have any ideas or instructions that may help. Do you know what version
Because Ipswitch adds things to the list that they consider spam when sent
to them, might not apply in your situation, always best to go over it first.
-HJ
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From: Jeffrey L. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:14 AM
Subject:
First, you need to verify that your registry structure is OK per the
information at
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20021119-DM02.htm
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Szusz
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL
Yes, that seems reasonable, however, it also allows the spammer to know
which addresses work. By accepting everything, they can't remove
addresses that don't exist and thus refine their list. It means more
lines in my log files, but I'm hoping to do my part to fight spam.
FYI, a spammer
On the first time you start IMail after that upgrade it will take quite a
while and consume considerable CPU time converting LDAP - whether you use
it or not.
At 08:50 AM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
We just tried to do the upgrade to 8.12. Having some issues getting LDAP
service to start. We
Anyone have a from code for joining an Imail list?
For what web server/preprocessor?
--Sandy
Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
As of IMail v8, IMail will create a domain using the TCP name of the box and
assign it to the primary IP of the box. I am willing to bet that The
servername and mail domains are bound to the same IP. If this is the case
all sorts of strange things can/will happen. This can be remedied by
changing
How can I tell how many users on my email server are using calendaring?
Search for Personal.dat?
Thanks
Tom
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Not true...Domain rule says sent to this usera...usera has a rule that says
delete/rediredct it...it will get deleted/redirected
Eric S
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From: Guy Deslauriers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Greetings:
I've noticed that since we've upgraded to v.8 (first released, not the HF's)
that when users login to webmail, it now shows their user id, not the full
name. Is this a bug or a new setting that I'm missing.
I've also searched the forum logs for something similar but was unable to
Richard,
Look at how you have the user configured on the General tab of the
user profile. If you used adduser to populate your users, it puts the
first and last name in first name field. Take a look at the General
tab of the users profile. The first name is probably filled in and
the last name
Since which version?
This information came from someone at Ipswitch when running version 8.01,
has it changed since?
The answer was: Message cannot get processed twice by rules, if it gets
processed by a rule then it disregard any other rule processing.
If it's wrong, then I was misinformed by
Thanks for the suggestion.
I did as you recommended, but unfortunately, everything seems to be in
order. Both the first name and last name fields are filled in correctly.
This isn't any type of emergency and it's not affecting the delivering of
mail in anyway, it's just kinda irking me. I know
Need to be using LDAP for this to show the Full Name.
Travis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard S. Hanzel
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Webmail welcome page
Greetings:
I've noticed
First off, let me say thanks to all of you all because I am getting more and
more comfortable with trying the different features available on IMail
thanks to all the questions and comments posted to this list. But sometimes,
they also lead me to be a little more confused.
So... my question is...
The issue is that once a message triggers a domain level in-bound rule it
will stop looking at additional domain level in-bound rules.
But when that message hits an account that has user level in-bound rules
it will be processed against this second set of rules.
At 10:58 AM 7/8/2004, you
Laura,
The KILL file actually BLOCKS the sender from ever delivering the message.
It looks to the From: line that is sent by the originating SMTP server, and
basically tells it to get lost if it matches one of the domains or
wildcards you have in place. It's obviously preferable to block spam
So... my question is... functionally, what is the difference between URL
Domain Blacklist and SMTP kill file.
They are two separate functions. :)
The most important difference is that the SMTP Kill List works during the
SMTP connections, which allows you to reject mail before the bandwidth is
Thanks for that suggestion too.
I thought that may have been the case, but when I enable LDAP what was in
the first and last name fields disappears. I went as far as to enable LDAP
and re-enter what was in the fields. That works, but when you stop/start
the LDAP service again, it erases what
The clarification here is different rule sets...if a domain rule matches, subsequent
domain rules MAY be ignored - that depends on
what the action is of the domain rule that is matched. User rules are a seperate set,
and work the same: match a user rule and the
rest MAY be ignored, again
Anyone noticing that spamcop is not responding to requests by the mail
servers to check IP against the DB? I'm getting a lot of retries in my
logs.
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It was not always required, but the problem you are having is with LDAP.
You will need to run the INIT, then enter in the info. I stopped mine just
now...it went to login name as you said your does...then I started LDAP and
it was fine. Run the INIT on one domain to test, but I am sure that is
Thanks William and Scott - you're explanations make much better sense.
Despite the word content being part of the name, I don't think I realized
that the url list actually scans the body of the message. I don't use the
kill list too much but when I see a from address that just keeps hammering
us,
The smtp control access list's subnet mask part was another one that took me
forever to figure out (still a little gray but better) and I am surprised
there isn't more talk about that on the list. Are there not alot of people
using that? Should I consider trying the connection filtering instead?
Thanks for your help. That did it.
Any major disadvantages to having LDAP enabled?
Rich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Travis Rabe
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Webmail welcome
I have two questionsregardingthe IMail
Spam Whitelist/Trusted Addresses list.
1. Is there a way to add a wildcard in the domain
box? For instance, I have users who need to receive messages from school
networks. Their domain is similar to oakland.k12.mi.us. Others will have a
different name
Not reallyjust another thing that you will have to use.
T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard S. Hanzel
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Webmail welcome page
Thanks for your
2. In the help for the trusted addresses, it cautions against putting your
own domain name in the trusted address. I have listed our mail server IP
in the Trusted IP's, but want to make sure nothing from our company is
identified as Spam. Does anyone know why you shouldn't put in your own
Chris,
That is more like it. Since we use forwarding to a dedicated spam box.
I tried setting up a rule on that box to redirect to sub-box and it's being
ignored once it gets caught by a domain rule. So I can certify that in a
forwarding scenario all subsequent rules get ignored.
gd
Hi,
I have three questions:
We're using SORBS since a few weeks now. Sometimes we're receiving false postives,
almost
triggering by Dynamic IP Address ranges (127.0.0.10). It looks like, that SORBS is
not well
informed about address ranges outside the us. Did anbody made the same experience?
We're using SORBS since a few weeks now. Sometimes we're receiving false
postives, almost
triggering by Dynamic IP Address ranges (127.0.0.10). It looks like,
that SORBS is not well
informed about address ranges outside the us. Did anbody made the same
experience?
The problem is that they
Martin Schaible wrote:
Hi,
I have three questions:
We're using SORBS since a few weeks now. Sometimes we're receiving false postives,
almost
triggering by Dynamic IP Address ranges (127.0.0.10). It looks like, that SORBS is
not well
informed about address ranges outside the us. Did anbody made
I'm looking for some input on a program my company recently wrote.
We use the built in Imail anti-spam features, and got many calls from
customers complaining of too many false positives (someone sent me an email
and I didn't receive it, blah, blah, blah). Almost all of our customers use
Outlook
I disagree completely with that assessment. While using a system that truely weighted
the mail like Declude does is certainly a better solution I think that with the
proper tweaks IMail's free system is quite effective.
Check my post from the other day that outlined in detail our settings that
We use postfix with dnsbl's along with a custom designed body filtering
system in front of our Imail box. Imail really does not have all of the
tools needed to support a spam filtering solution quite yet IMO.
I disagree completely with that assessment. While using a system that
truely weighted
Hi David,
Thank you, this flowchart is very useful.
The yahoo-thing is a bit more complicated for me. I deliver my anti spam files to a
lot of
imail servers here in switzlerland on a daily bases. The files are maintained and
updated 2 to 3 times a day.
The customers are paying some money for
I would probably like a tool like that. Of course it would depend on the cost.
Signed,
Dave Riddle
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-- Original Message --
From: Alex Nikdel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Have installed Imail and KWM on a new server, but am having serious
problems getting IP based virtual domains working correctly with Web
Messaging. Any help gratefully received...
Server - HP Proliant
NOS - Win 2k SP4 with all the latest patches etc
Private network 10.28.0.0 with private DNS
Have installed Imail and KWM on a new server, but am having
serious problems getting IP based virtual domains working
correctly with Web Messaging. Any help gratefully received...
Ensure that your host aliases have entries in it such as:
mail.example.com www.example.com. Don't forget
Have installed Imail and KWM on a new server, but am having
serious problems getting IP based virtual domains working
correctly with Web Messaging. Any help gratefully received...
Ensure that your host aliases have entries in it such as:
mail.example.com www.example.com. Don't forget
Dave Riddle wrote:
We use postfix with dnsbl's along with a custom designed body filtering
system in front of our Imail box. Imail really does not have all of the
tools needed to support a spam filtering solution quite yet IMO.
I disagree completely with that assessment. While using a system
The system I am describing is free from a software standpoint and is
much more efficient than Imail in handling the filtering,
white listing,
etc. I'm not touting it as the only way to go by any means, just
offering up how we do things in my little corner of the internet. I
truly belive
Have installed Imail and KWM on a new server, but am
having serious
problems getting IP based virtual domains working
correctly with Web
Messaging. Any help gratefully received...
Ensure that your host aliases have entries in it such as:
mail.example.com www.example.com.
Len Conrad wrote:
but I am not sure if it is the way that we have it configured. We're
handling between 25k and 30k messages a day (~18k local
you mean IMail-user-to-Imail-user local-delivery msgs?
These are anywhere-to-imail-user messages (ldeliver in the logs).
10k outbound)
how about from
Sanford Whiteman wrote:
The problems we've had are always to do with CPU time used by either
the smtpd32.exe or smtp32.exe processes. In the last month, the
server CPU usage has been averaging 93%...My experiments with
PerfMon show that disc I/O is not a bottleneck at all, it is
Cavell,
I remembered that we've fixed this problem in the past by running a
chkdsk /f on the drive that holds the Imail spool and mailboxes.
Often this requires a reboot to REPAIR problems, but you can identify
problems just by running chkdsk without the /f to see if it's
worth running a full
you mean IMail-user-to-Imail-user local-delivery msgs?
These are anywhere-to-imail-user messages (ldeliver in the logs).
ok, those of course should be extremely resource un-intensive
10k outbound)
how about from internet to Imail?
See above, but I haven't (yet) broken down the delivery stats
Is there any way that I can set my IMail
machine to ONLY accept mail from my relay server? Can this be done on a single domain basis or
would it have to be server wide? Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Evans Martin
---
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Martek.Net
(615)
Is there any way that I can set my IMail machine to ONLY accept mail
from my relay server?
SMTP--Control Access--Denied Except...
Can this be done on a single domain basis or would it have to be
server wide?
It's server-wide.
--Sandy
Sanford
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