RE: [IMail Forum] Store and forward script
Yep, I tried to come up with something with Declude (you even gave some pointers) but had no luck. I'm just surprised and disappointed that no one is doing this. Needless to say my knowledge of using tokens isn't well enough to write the script on my own. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:33 AM To: Beach Computers Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Store and forward script Does anyone have a script to do store and forward already? I need a dos script to read the imail registry from server A, dump a list of the domains to a batch file, and the run the store and forward command for each domain on server B. Any help is much appreciated! You can use the free DOMLIST from Declude (www.declude.com) to get a domain dump, then parse the output into the HOSTS file. Note, though, that the traditional dumb store-and-forward offers you no protection against dictionary attacks, while the LDAP-based store-and-forward you can implement using ldap2aliases (see my sig) offers a more complete solution. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release / Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downloa d/release/ http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/re lease/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] status=3 but mail delivers multiple times
What version of IMail are you running? the log snippet you sent shows the start of one message and the requeueing of another...need more of the log to see what's really happening Eric S - Original Message - From: mail-lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: [IMail Forum] status=3 but mail delivers multiple times Hi, We moved to a different ISP and had a mess with DNS afterwards. I've gotten it all settled, but am still waiting for a PTR record for our mail server to propagate through the internet. The issue is that IMail will deliver the same message multiple times, sometimes upwards of 30 or so. Here is a copy of one of the messages. It sends all of the data, but then receives the Blocking Call Cancelled error, which according to IPSwitch, is because the receiving server can't do a reverse lookup on our IP. The status is given as 3, a failure. However the message DOES get delivered to the recipient. But then the next time the smtp task goes through the queue, it sends the message again, successfully, even with the status code being 3. I have to physically go in and delete the SMD files for it to stop sending over and over again to the recipient.. It shouldn't be more than another day before the PTR record takes everywhere, but is there any reason for this to happen? Thanks! Cavell 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) d:\Imail\spool\Q177c031401b2b9c2.SMD 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) processing d:\Imail\spool\Q177c031401b2b9c2.SMD 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) Trying kahg.com (0) 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) Connect kahg.com [65.199.126.183:25] (1) 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 220 SMTP Proxy Server Ready 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) EHLO thecashstore.com 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250-udsobtmailgw3.unitrin.com ESMTP Server Ready 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250-SIZE 26214400 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250-STARTTLS 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250-TLS 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250 DSN 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250 +OK Sender OK 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 250 +OK Recipient OK 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) DATA 20050128 012119 127.0.0.1 SMTP (392) 354 Start mail input, end with .CRLF 20050128 012135 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (03350164) [192.168.1.23] connect 192.168.1.23 port 3260 20050128 012235 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (03360164) [192.168.1.23] connect 192.168.1.23 port 3262 20050128 012335 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (03370164) [192.168.1.23] connect 192.168.1.23 port 3264 20050128 012339 127.0.0.1 SMTP (3060) rl-recv: Blocking call cancelled 20050128 012339 127.0.0.1 SMTP (3060) 20050128 012339 127.0.0.1 SMTP (3060) requeuing d:\Imail\spool\Q465f00640164df51.SMD R0 T9 20050128 012339 127.0.0.1 SMTP (3060) finished d:\Imail\spool\Q465f00640164df51.SMD status=3 To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] Null Headers, Null senders, Null bodies.
Thank you. Just got done updating VS with an exclusion list for Imail dir on the server. Will see if that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:46 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Null Headers, Null senders, Null bodies. Null Headers, Null senders, Null bodies, or just entire blank messages. How can I stop them from getting through Imail? In most cases, these are due to AV programs being run improperly on the IMail server. If you have an on-access virus scanner running on the IMail server, it must be set not to scan the \IMail directory or subdirectories. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. This outgoing message is guaranteed to be authentic by Message Level users. Guarantee the authenticity of your email @ http://www.messagelevel.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
[IMail Forum] Email Archiving Software
I have taken a look through the IMail list archives looking for a discussion on Email Archiving. I can't find anything that I can sink my teeth into. Is there anyone on the list willing to share what solution they are using to archive their email. I'm sure that forces such as SOX, NASD3110 3111 and SEC17a are moving mail administrators to comply. Please don't limit the solutions to an IMail only; I'm interested in hearing all solutions for all servers. Thanks, George Dailey To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] Email Archiving Software
The solution I have in place at 2 clients with Exchange servers is the following: (Can be adapted, see further down.) 1. Setup an archive domain account. 2. Copy all e-mail to that account. 3. Run exmerge daily from that account to create a daily PST file. 4. The PST file gets burned to CD for permanent storage and copied to a store location on a NAS. 5. Using a program called ActiveFolders by C2C can run queries against the PST files on the NAS and can either provide a report or copy matching e-mails to a Public folder for review. To adapt to Imail: 1. Create and use the copy all account. 2. Daily/weekly connect it that account via POP3 and download into Outlook. 3. Export messages by day into a PST file. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Dailey [Tech] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:29 AM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] Email Archiving Software I have taken a look through the IMail list archives looking for a discussion on Email Archiving. I can't find anything that I can sink my teeth into. Is there anyone on the list willing to share what solution they are using to archive their email. I'm sure that forces such as SOX, NASD3110 3111 and SEC17a are moving mail administrators to comply. Please don't limit the solutions to an IMail only; I'm interested in hearing all solutions for all servers. Thanks, George Dailey To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
[IMail Forum] Suggestion.
I just had a support customer complain our mail server has been listed on the ORDB.org database and I have I-Mail set for relay for local users only. I'd suggest the text on the checkbox in IMail Admin be changed from: Relay for Local users only to: Relay for local users and spoofed from address only Dan To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] Suggestion.
FAQ yadda yadda yadda. This has been covered to death on this list as well as explained in the manual. Any one setting the relay settings without thoroughly investigating their meaning... John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:12 AM To: imail_forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] Suggestion. I just had a support customer complain our mail server has been listed on the ORDB.org database and I have I-Mail set for relay for local users only. I'd suggest the text on the checkbox in IMail Admin be changed from: Relay for Local users only to: Relay for local users and spoofed from address only Dan To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
[IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Since they now also strip out all headers (they used to leave headers intact so we used Declude's customer header ability to note the intended recipient), the best thing to do is include an unsub link that has a unique identifier for the particular user. Not sure if your mailing list subscription system will do that for you, but a lot of them on the market will do that. Darin. - Original Message - From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a month or two ago)? Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Try thunderbird and you'll see the header. Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a month or two ago)? Darin. - Original Message - From: "Matrosity Tech Support" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the "spam" email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
What is odd is the headers are there about 75% of the time. Weird. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:47 AM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Since they now also strip out all headers (they used to leave headers intact so we used Declude's customer header ability to note the intended recipient), the best thing to do is include an unsub link that has a unique identifier for the particular user. Not sure if your mailing list subscription system will do that for you, but a lot of them on the market will do that. Darin. - Original Message - From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
At 12:37 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote: The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' I sent the headers that were included in the email from AOL. The rest of the email below the header that was already sent is just: - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-AOL-IP: 216.19.194.104 The new newsletter was delivered last night. Get 'em while their hot! http://www.dctra.org/News/Jan2005.pdf Also, the past two years of newsletters are also available in the archive http://www.dctra.org/News.html --- So I don't see how anything beyond what I first sent would be helpful in determining the spool ID to check IMail logs. Or am I missing something? Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
I am having this problem too. How can unsubscribe these fools if I don't know who they are! I see this in my header for the reported email: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I search the log for that ID number, it shows up many, many times - and most entries appeared to be MSN related, not AOL. I use the IMail list to send the email. Is there something I could do to make the header include something unique? thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matrosity Tech Support Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
unfortunately not. since most AOL people are naive to the internet, they just click on a spam icon to report you. we've turned off all forwarding to AOL by our customers because our own customers were reporting our mail server as delivering spam to them. Fun, huh? L. Bhandari wrote: I am having this problem too. How can unsubscribe these fools if I don't know who they are! I see this in my header for the reported email: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I search the log for that ID number, it shows up many, many times - and most entries appeared to be MSN related, not AOL. I use the IMail list to send the email. Is there something I could do to make the header include something unique? thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matrosity Tech Support Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
The email client doesn't matter...I can see the headers just fine... The issue is that AOLhas recently startedstripping out all custom headers, making it difficult, if not impossible, to tell the intended recipient from the headers. That's why I suggested a link with a tracking ID in the body of the email...like many unsub links will do. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Try thunderbird and you'll see the header.Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a month or two ago)? Darin. - Original Message - From: "Matrosity Tech Support" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the "spam" email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
This is why, if you do the list mailing correctly, the Youa re subscribed as emailaddress here at the bottom of all mailing, you will see who it was. This is what I do. Also, they do not always flag the spam on purpose. If they have set the filtering too high, then it blocks false positives. I usually contact the client directly to make sure this is what they want. About 95% it was an auto-filtering feature form AOL that caused the problem. Travis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:22 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The email client doesn't matter...I can see the headers just fine... The issue is that AOLhas recently startedstripping out all custom headers, making it difficult, if not impossible, to tell the intended recipient from the headers. That's why I suggested a link with a tracking ID in the body of the email...like many unsub links will do. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Try thunderbird and you'll see the header. Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a monthor two ago)?Darin.- Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PMSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsThe TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look atthe header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it islisted as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID'BillDave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logswho an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in theirnotifications?For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car cluban email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available andgot a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is:--Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com[172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP idMAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com(v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan2005 11:14:16 -0500Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org withESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id[EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700To: Undisclosed RecipientsFrom: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted--Thanks!To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Are you using the IMail list thingie? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Travis RabeSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:42 PMTo: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications This is why, if you do the list mailing correctly, the Youa re subscribed as emailaddress here at the bottom of all mailing, you will see who it was. This is what I do. Also, they do not always flag the spam on purpose. If they have set the filtering too high, then it blocks false positives. I usually contact the client directly to make sure this is what they want. About 95% it was an auto-filtering feature form AOL that caused the problem. Travis
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Exactly my point...I don't know if his mailing list system will allow this or not. Darin. - Original Message - From: Travis Rabe To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications This is why, if you do the list mailing correctly, the Youa re subscribed as emailaddress here at the bottom of all mailing, you will see who it was. This is what I do. Also, they do not always flag the spam on purpose. If they have set the filtering too high, then it blocks false positives. I usually contact the client directly to make sure this is what they want. About 95% it was an auto-filtering feature form AOL that caused the problem. Travis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:22 PMTo: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The email client doesn't matter...I can see the headers just fine... The issue is that AOLhas recently startedstripping out all custom headers, making it difficult, if not impossible, to tell the intended recipient from the headers. That's why I suggested a link with a tracking ID in the body of the email...like many unsub links will do. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Try thunderbird and you'll see the header.Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a monthor two ago)?Darin.- Original Message - From: "Matrosity Tech Support" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PMSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsThe TOS notices I get have the "spam" email attached so you can look atthe header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it islisted as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID'BillDave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logswho an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in theirnotifications?For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car cluban email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available andgot a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is:--Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com[172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP idMAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com(v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan2005 11:14:16 -0500Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org withESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id[EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700To: Undisclosed RecipientsFrom: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted--Thanks!To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Since I am using IMail (this is an IMail forum) I am asking the question related to the listserv built in to IMail. At 02:46 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote: Exactly my point...I don't know if his mailing list system will allow this or not. Darin. - Original Message - From: Travis Rabe To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications This is why, if you do the list mailing correctly, the Youa re subscribed as emailaddress here at the bottom of all mailing, you will see who it was. This is what I do. Also, they do not always flag the spam on purpose. If they have set the filtering too high, then it blocks false positives. I usually contact the client directly to make sure this is what they want. About 95% it was an auto-filtering feature form AOL that caused the problem. Travis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:22 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The email client doesn't matter...I can see the headers just fine... The issue is that AOL has recently started stripping out all custom headers, making it difficult, if not impossible, to tell the intended recipient from the headers. That's why I suggested a link with a tracking ID in the body of the email...like many unsub links will do. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Try thunderbird and you'll see the header. Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a month or two ago)? Darin. - Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications The TOS notices I get have the spam email attached so you can look at the header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it is listed as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID' Bill Dave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logs who an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in their notifications? For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car club an email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available and got a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is: -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500 Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:16 -0500 Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700 Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700 To: Undisclosed Recipients From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted -- Thanks! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications
Then it's hit or miss with AOL (since John reported that sometimes the headers have come through for him...we haven't had as much success with that as he has). Didn't know if you hadn't added a real subscription management system in lieu of the simple listserv in IMail, and just use IMail for the delivery and receipt. Your best bet would be to do just that. Darin. - Original Message - From: Dave Riddle To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS Notifications Since I am using IMail (this is an IMail forum) I am asking the question related to the listserv built in to IMail.At 02:46 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote: Exactly my point...I don't know if his mailing list system will allow this or not.Darin.- Original Message - From: Travis Rabe To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:41 PMSubject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsThis is why, if you do the list mailing correctly, the Youa re subscribed as emailaddress here at the bottom of all mailing, you will see who it was. This is what I do. Also, they do not always flag the spam on purpose. If they have set the filtering too high, then it blocks false positives. I usually contact the client directly to make sure this is what they want. About 95% it was an auto-filtering feature form AOL that caused the problem.Travis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:22 PMTo: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsThe email client doesn't matter...I can see the headers just fine... The issue is that AOL has recently started stripping out all custom headers, making it difficult, if not impossible, to tell the intended recipient from the headers. That's why I suggested a link with a tracking ID in the body of the email...like many unsub links will do.Darin.- Original Message - From: Matrosity Tech Support To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:53 PMSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsTry thunderbird and you'll see the header.Darin Cox wrote: Is that not being removed now that AOL strips out all headers (as of a monthor two ago)?Darin.- Original Message - From: "Matrosity Tech Support" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:37 PMSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL TOS NotificationsThe TOS notices I get have the "spam" email attached so you can look atthe header info to get the imail message id. We use mxguard so it islisted as 'X-mxGuard-Spool-ID'BillDave Riddle wrote: Anyone have advice how to determine by checking the mail servers logswho an email was sent to at AOL since AOL removes the address in theirnotifications?For example: I sent out on a subscription list for our local car cluban email notifying our members that a new newsletter was available andgot a TOS notice back. The included header from AOL is:--Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from rly-xb01.mx.aol.com (rly-xb01.mail.aol.com[172.20.64.133]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP idMAILINXB42-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:36 -0500Received: from dctra.org ([216.19.194.104]) by rly-xb01.mx.aol.com(v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB12-8441fe59582cc; Mon, 31 Jan2005 11:14:16 -0500Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28] by dctra.org withESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A2D7C4B00F6; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:46:31 -0700Received: from home.microworks.net ([68.109.160.232]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:46:30 -0500Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:45:30 -0700To: Undisclosed RecipientsFrom: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: January 2005 Newsletter posted--Thanks!To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
