3th: all logging. (use a separate logging pgm if
Imail/windows isn't flexible enough), or even send the
logging a syslog server.
A simple way to solve natural logfile fragmentation is to save logfiles to
one drive (for example Imail's spool folder) and move them on a hourly
schedule to
My question was, if other people habe also more (of course
captured) spam.
yes!
This are the reports from our server for the past two months (hourly
values).
The red part is what is arriving to our spamfilter, the green part is what
we deliver as legit messages to our customers mailboxes.
Nice subject line, Chris! It was an eye-catcher for me.
I've can see a similar issue in some rare cases since I upgraded from 8.15
to 8.22.
The messages are comming in from remote MTA's and even if the local
virt.Domain and the recipient mailbox does exist and anything seems correct
Imail does
Matt,
I think that it would be wise for Ipswitch to reevaluate
their approach to vulnerability patches.
...
As a result, Ipswitch has lost goodwill, whereas if they had
provided the patch back then, they would have gained goodwill.
In my opinion Ipswitch has choosen to definitively
For such tasks it's always a good idea to consider the knowledge base:
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-JB11.htm
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Todd Richards
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:58 AM
To:
Title: Message
Why do you write such a long and informative answer like
"yes"?
No: in order to prevent a flood of unnecessary messages
that come also to thousand of other people please:
1.) try to give more information! yes? yes
what?
2.) maybe write directly to Tripp and post the
Looking at the file and the line from the error message
below I can see
oProducts =
Server.CreateObject("IpsGlobal.IpswitchProductCollection.1");
So it shouldn't be a problem with MDAC, the
Filesystemobject or anything else what is part of your OS.
Looks morelike it's not possible to
Thanks,
-Joe
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From:
Markus
Gufler
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:04
PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail 2006
upgrade nightmare!
Looking at the file and the line from
I would like to see the ability to load a text file/xml of
email addresses for gateway domains for envelope rejection.
Also, the ability for this file to be re-read without
restarting any services.
Great idea!
Markus
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Question: If I have a relay/gateway server installed and
this occurs for me. Does the DOS feature stop accepting mail
from my gateway?
How does Imail know that the gateway server isn't the one
sending the mail??
This sounds like a big problem that you may have
Also note this warning from Spamhaus since you are using
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, cbl.abuseat.org and opm.blitzed.org
http://www.spamhaus.org/xbl/index.lasso
...Mail servers already using cbl.abuseat.org and
opm.blitzed.org should NOT also use xbl.spamhaus.org or you
will be making
Title: Trusted DNS Black Lists (immediate deletion)
XBL, CBL and SPAMCOP seems to be very reliable by having
only a few false positive rate of around 0.3% (compared to the total number of
processed messages)
But all this lists are far from beeing perfect in catching
spam. In the last 24
Can you see this connection timeouts and 10053 errors around the clock and
to many different servers or only to certain remote servers? If yes, can you
measure the link speed between this machines? If no, what's your own
connection type and speed?
Markus
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From:
Regarding NIC issues and connection timeouts maybe this will help you if
your server is under a relative high load (100.000+ msgs/day)
http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum@list.ipswitch.com/msg96372.html
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL
Do you have a firewall to block incomming and outgoing traffic for all non
used ports?
If port 25 and 110 is bound to Imail and you can telnet on this port it
shouldn't be probable that another service is using the same port.
Markus
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we have a Linux-IP-Tables Firewall. Yes.
Isn't it possible, that an internal (hidden) process
sends/receives data on unpreveliged ports not bound to IMail ?
Not if the firwall before the Imail-box deny in- AND outgoing traffic for
this unpreveliged ports.
But before some other questions:
Not quite right. If you're running it on port 25 on another
IP, just set the MX for the gatewayed domains to hit that
other IP directly. No need to have the messages spool twice.
...except we do realy for this messages only because we're scanning them for
viruses and spams ;-)
I'll try to
Sandy, thank you for your answer.
Seriously, that's why you set your queue lifetime for
gatewayed domains to a much longer timeout than the lifetime
of general outbound mail.
As this Imail-Server is only gateway but this for 200k msgs/day for another
Mailserver near to this
Maybe someone has had this to solve before and so can help me a little bit:
Our Imail Server does relay (and filter) messages for another MTA. So we've
added the other MTA's IP to the relay for IP-list and to the hosts file.
Now the question is: What can we do if the other MTA has a longer
THE FEDERAL Trade Commission (FTC) has decided that people who have
unwittingly had their computers turned into spam zombies should have
their machines switched off from Internet access.
should? what does that mean? does the FTC have
enforcement/punishment in place? or is this some
4. block port 25.
BTW: I know not any large ISP can just do it but some little networks
protected by a firewall can prevent outgoing SMTP-traffic and allow it only
to certain hosts without any problems. We do this on any FW we set up for
our customers and explain that if they need to connect to
For people using Declude Junkmail Pro they can set up a filter file that
will catch one of the ~30 known subject lines but only in combination with
another spamtest (commandspace) that each of this sober.q generated messages
will fail.
Markus
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Are you really running IIS on hundreds of domains? With ASP!??
Ronald,
Mabe you're not able to do this.
Numerous admin's are doing this successfully for years. Believe me!
Markus
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Just now getting to see these survey questions, but we
generally prefer to keep scripting languages to their primary
platform - ie. ASP and ASP.NET for IIS, and PHP for Apache.
I fully agree with David.
In my opinion you can expect a larger percentage of Imail-Admins able to
develope and
Funny that most of the responses have answered NO to question
#5. That indicates to me that most of the admins here are
either already familiar with PHP or are happy to become
familiar with it.
Tyran
Maybe you haven't understod what I've meant before.
For shure there are admin's who
could it be that your IP-configuration has the wrong
netmask?
I've seen exactly the same this morning after switching to
another NIC and setting up a netmask of 255.255.255.0 instead of
255.255.255.240
hadn't had time to check why but as it'sthe same I've
seen today maybe it will help
Title: Message
HELO should be always the string from the host connecting
to your server.
So messages send from your clients contain the sending
workstation's name, and messages coming in from other SMTP servers contain the
sending server's name (usualy the FQDN)
Markus
From:
Title: Message
No, not exactly
an SMTP-connection is always between two hosts. As the
names say the sending host (client) send the message to the SMTP-Server.
If the sending host is a workstation (for example running
MS Outlook) then this client will send the windows machine name as HELO
as we do
per server, be interested in what you have your defaults at. Thanks for the
time.
Keith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Markus Gufler
Sent: Tue 3/1/2005 12:10 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Cc:
Subject: [IMail Forum] To anyone who bought a 3Com
Listen pipes listen for connections from SMTPD to QM (or
Declude/mxGuard to QM), not connections from Internet to
SMTPD. I suspect you're thinking otherwise. The socket
bottleneck at SMTPD makes increasing listen pipes beyond 64
useless. Delivery threads are QM
Get TCPView from sysinternals.com
Hmm, some years ago I've had to leave my office, sit in my car and drive to
the datacenter in order to take control of my not more reachable server
running TCPView for some minutes.
The tool is nice but while making tests between 12pm and 04am I preffer to
not
Note: maybe this is not new for certain people on this list but as it was
not easy for me to resolve it, and also neither Ipswitch seems to know this.
So I want to tell you what happened me with our brand new server:
Our new Win2k3 Dell server with Dual Xeon CPU's, 2 Intel and 2 Broadcom
Nic's
these are great band-aid settings, but the problem remains
Well said, but not under my control ;-)
btw, 60 seconds is still VERY patient. The busier your
server is, the less
patience it should have with slow MXs. I suggest you
experiment with 15 or 30 seconds.
30 is the min.
One of the reasons Unix system appear to work better than
windows is they have better defaults.
...
I use 30 for my time wait and 65534 for my max port and do
not have any errors occurring.
So in order to have run Imail/Windows as a stable and reliable pair there
should be somewhere
Does anyone know if there is a way to delete messages from an Imail mailbox
by date (for example 3 days old) automatically. Maybe a command line tool,
script or similar...
Thanks in advance
Markus
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messages by date automatically?
Have you seen the Message Expunger?
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-2616-DM01.htm
Have a good one,
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Markus Gufler
Sent: Thursday, February 24
We have a tool for checking IMail registry hives.
Contact support for this as I don't have a copy here..as of
this point I have stopped using the IMail client to
manipulate mailboxes on the server (other than looking at them, no
transferring/deleting)
Ok, I will contact the support.
Use MS File Explorers Search functionality and search in
all imail folders for files named "forward.ima" containing
"aol.com"
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beach
ComputersSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:44 PMTo:
Just checked with my home box from here at the officeNo
problems with the client...opened a 60 MB spam folder with no
issues...Check permissions on the registry and file structure
Eric,
there is definitively some bug in the v8 Imail client.
If you want I can provide a terminal server
I list entire class A netblocks in SMTP access. All non US
assigned ones and some others.
Holy cow god save America!
Markus
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Title: Somewhat OT, Spam and Bandwidth
Glenn,
I have a Folder containing 45.000 Spam messages (45k IMail
D.SMD and 45k IMail Q.SMD files)
All files has a total size of 250 MBytes. So any message
(Message + Queue file) has an average size of 2,78 kBytes.
Assuming that the queue file has a
Title: Somewhat OT, Spam and Bandwidth
70-80 Users can create a lot of traffic. Much more then a
256 kBit line can handle. Depends on what customers are doing. Are this all
users working 8 hours a day on the computer or does some/all of them browsing
and mailing only sometimes?
As
Seems like this OT thread becomes OT another time :-)
The initial question was not whats the best way to measure line usage but if
incomming spam can create so much traffic that it comes to a noticeable
reduction.
In my opinion spam alone shouldn't create such a big reduction, because one
single
If some of you could help me... One of my customers tells me
that he cannot even get the welcome screen at:
http://mail.kuthula.com:8383
Maybe he's trying to open mail.kuthula.com:8383
Keep in mind that using the non standard http port requires using http://...
so that the browser knows
Looks like there are a lot of discussions about
dictionary attacks
tcp probes
blackice
killfile
antispam idea
but I can see nothing about collaboration issues.
Or ICS is working simply great and nobody has any problem with it, or ... no
one is using it.
At least it's more then clear that many
I've read it another place (german)
http://www.tecchannel.de/sicherheit/reports/4465.html
It's a buffer overflow in IMAP4D32.exe.
So only who has open IMAP-ports to the internet would have a problem.
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Title: Delcude Anti-Virus
cheaper
you can choose your favorite scan engine(s)
custom notifications to sender/recipient by differentiating if sender
is local or remote (want you blame your own users on remote side if they
really send out an infected message?)
Skip
There is only one global group now: All users must use the
built in virusfilter and groupware functionality or at least buy
it.
Look at their website. It's called "ICS" and incredible low
priced ;-)
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf
Some years ago here in the north of Italy a winter sport zone has offered
the season subscription for around 400 USD. There was not many subscribers
and also not many people on the tracks. The entire concept was near to
collapse.
Then someone has had the idea to lower the price down to around 50%
then blacklist us, please, because, with the exception of any
correspondence via this list, we've never sent or received a
message to or from your domain in more than 5 years - I just
scanned 5 years worth of logs to verify that.
no skin off my back. my customers want ZERO SPAM and
Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an
unlimited number of users. If you -want- Symantec, which is,
after all, the market leader, it's actually quite a good
deal, as many users have already concluded. However, if you
-don't- want Symantec bundled in, as it currently is in
Now imagine WorkgroupShare suddenly discontinuing the product
you are using in your ICS (with literally NO WARNING!) and
coming out with a new
IPSwitch,
you should realy try to immagine this, and...
I myself have recommended Imail to at least 10 customers in
the past 3 months. Never
Bill,
Ipswitch has increased the price overnight by factor 10 and
we can only assume that some calculation let you come to the conclusion that
this is usefull for your company.
Question: Why not increase it by factor 100? I'm sure there
will by at least 1% of current customers ready to
I recall your post, Gufler - I think that when I saw your
post I did not realize it would REPLACE the stand alone. I
assumed (oops!) that this was a new product - on it's own.
Bhandari and John,
There was maybe too much summary in my last week post. The information I've
received has said
The end result is that even if Ipswitch product management
realizes their disastrous mistake, wises up, and recants,
continuing to offer the base product, many customers are now
looking elsewhere that may not have otherwise. So no matter
what happens, Ipswitch will lose sales.
Exactly
To fix this situation, you need to offer IMail as a baseline
package, by itself, with no add-ons, at a price comparable to
what it was. If you are losing money at the current pricing
level, just say so, and raise the prices to a point where
money will not be lost.
Not more again!
I just spoke with IPSwitch Customer service and I am not
happy Imail will no longer be availabel as a seperate product.
I'm working with Imail from v4 on.
v8 was already a naughtiness.
Pricing and functionality for spam- and virus-filtering was and are far away
from what I can accept for my
Following to the german news on
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/52288
the next Imail version will be released as Collaboration Suite on october
25. So far so good.
But what's about:
The smallest Collaboration Suite license (25 Users, and Bitdefender AV
Engine) will cost 1295 Euro +
I think Scott and David are just trying to prepare us for the
presidential debates. I think they really were just chatting
to each other on the phone and laughing it up and are playing
off each other as a combined publicity stunt. ;)
Beside some humor that's never wrong, back to the
Title: What do I need to quickly reinstall Imail?
Best thing would be to backup the entire imail folder as it
usualy contains all usermailboxes, list files, user settings and so
on.
Maybe keep the logfiles in the spoolfolder out from this
backup.
A copy of the registry wouldn't be enough to
Isn't there any tool that does this all automatically?
Nika,
On http://www2.spamchk.com/public.html you can find a weekly report about
the quality of different declude spam tests.
Hope this helps.
Markus
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Sorry Scott that was a typo, we are on 7.15HF3. I have at
least 2 SMTP crashes per month requiring a reboot.
Any ideas?
I've running 7.15HF3 and Declude 1.79 and can't remember the last SMTP
outage.
How much messages per day are processed by this server?
What NIC is in the Server?
What
How much messages per day are processed by this server?
40 k - 50 k
Ok, but at this level with declude behind the SMTP-service you have a
cpu-usage of 2% ?
What NIC is in the Server? 3Com 3C905
That's fine
What is in the logfile before the service crash? nothing strikingly
I'm interested in this SURBL list mentioned below. I
searched the archives for SURBL and come up empty.
It's a Declude topic so try to search the declude list archives.
Markus
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This assumes that the intruder has access to the IMail
machine's registry...IMHO if this is so I would think you
have bigger problems than just grabbing passwords..
Eric S
Is it true that extractusers.exe will not work anymore above Imail v7.xx ?
If not, with this code it should be easy
Fortunately we have found a way to ward off these distributed
dictionary attacks for a very modest investment (an old
Pentium and several hours of my time).
So if you bought Imail the solution is:
Buy Declude
Buy a second server hardware
Install IMGate on it
Just to clarify.
Markus
To
I don't expect any anti-spam software like Declude to do the sort of
greylisting I'm talking about. Clearly this has to be the
MTA.
...
I'm not bashing IMail, nor am I bashing Declude. Each
solution has its
place. It's just that I can see how putting this
functionality into IMail
Is there someone
(maybe a known name) who can provide us a statement that his IMailserver is
running great by processing around 200.000 msgs/day ?
Thanks in
advance
Markus
we have no problems with 150.000 a day
150K delivered, or 30K delivered and 120K rejected?
We expect 200k in total and a hold-rate of 65% with a peak value of 10
msgs/second (or 36000/hour)
So 200k scanned messages and 70k relayed. (Server will act as gateway only.
No Mailboxes, Webmail ...)
(If I have something wrong please let me know...)
All correct.
Hope this helps,
Definitely!
Now I have something to put beside the reports, to explain what they mean.
As you can see my english it's not the best so many thanks for this
explanation.
Practically I can't let access all the
Again thanks to Pete for the explanation, his ideas and promising work.
On http://www2.spamchk.com/public.html I've added the explanation and
additional information.
This static website from now on will be updated weekly every Sunday.
So you can follow what's going on with five-ten and many
Anybody knows whats going on there?
FIVETEN-tests are not bad but as Scott said absolutely NO NEVER a 100%
indicator of spam.
On http://www2.spamchk.com/public.html I've prepared a list of spamtests and
how they've worked on our server last week.
As you can see FIVETEN-tests has a relative
can you try to run this script from another
IP.
Maybe SAV is blocking certain IP's for example if they
connect to often in a certain timerange.
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
SmithSent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:38 PMTo:
[EMAIL
I've patched a dozen servers and no problem here. (Server must reboot after
patch)
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:23 AM
To: Imail User Forum
Subject: [IMail Forum] OT:
I know it would be best to get professional tools like
Declude JunkMail Pro, yet I'd like to explore first to see if
there's anything can be done within the iMail.
FYI:
There is a nice tool (HELOISIP) looking for IP-like strings in the HELO
string (not only cmIP-ADD-RE-SS.hkcable). It's
Why does Imail provide such poor language Packs for Webmail?
Which version?
I've translated the v6 and v7 templates to german (without help files).
Don't ask me why IPSwitch has published only v6 on their website. I've
provided them both versions.
The v7 templates are completely separated
The v7 templates are completely separated (HTML and
words/phrases) So
anyone can translate it easily in any other language (around 1500
lines)
They are so poorly translated that it is in many cases
impossible to get the right meaning from the german and
you have to compare it
I've tested with Imail v7, latest version of declude virus and f-prot. Not
one single test message come trough the filter. :-)
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Scott Wilkins
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 4:06 PM
To: [EMAIL
Hi
IMail-Admins
anyone has a
solution on how to execute a batch file on a remote server (reachable trough
TCP/IP) if an IMail program-alias receives a certain
command?
Server1: IMail:
Program Alias
Server2: Batch
file
(the Batchfile
should run on Server2 and not on Server1)
Markus
Title: Message
Thanks.
looks likeSC is included in Windows
2003.
As I can understandSC does not allow like RCMD to
execute a batch file on a remote server, but it will allow to start and stop
services. (the batch file at the moment includes only NET START/STOP
commands)
So I think SC will
We have the same thing, except that we have an sender and a
subject. Are the spammers to stupid to send mails or is it a
technical porblem?
I asume this is something like a verification and DB cleanup mailing. We can
also see this typ of messages in the last days/weeks.
The idea behind
Name Surname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's not the server's fault that you're not validating form
input and allowing a broken SMTP envelope command, is it?
Imail's docu talks about extra long commands (512 bytes) and not about
malformed recipient addresses. The validation was for having at
SPAMCOP
CBL
XBL
DSBL
Catches most spam by having a very small FP
rate.
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
ScharbroughSent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:37 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [IMail Forum] Favorite black
Do you mean "xbl.spamhaus.org" if so according to
Declude's list "...This contains the same data as the CBL test..."
From 05/01/04 on our server has processed 183721
messages.
In this time range CBL has helped to catch 54948 spam
messages by having also a false positive resultfor 481 legit
After having a problem with this SMTP security setting (Auto deny possible
hack attempts on the SMTP-Security tab) I want to write this informative
message:
We've running several webservers beside our imail server (v 7.15) and from
one of this servers a user has send a message from a web-form
If I have loan rate or low rate or any combo with
rate as a spam
phrase- will it also filter just rate? I don't have
rate in my phrase list, but emails are being filtered for rate.
Rate shows nowhere in any rules or filters.
...and this is good so!
rate can also be part of
Someone has already
translated the Killer Webmail Templates to italian language?
Markus
We will probably move from Imail to Merak then. I don't think
IpSwitch will forget that market I'm a part of.
Pierre,
I have to strongly agree with Scott!
If you want to integrate a C/R system several people will consider this as
spam. (exactly the opposite you want in your inbox!)
Some of
The antispam feature of
Imail is unsecure, and my customers urge me to provide them a
spam challenge system.
I don't know the Antispam features offered by Imail v8+ but maybe give a
30day free try to Declude available under www.declude.com
It's like a swiss army knife.
Markus
To
No it's real. Since that law, spam coming from EU countries
have almost completely stopped.
Of course I'm in Belgium, I can't say it is the same in other
EU countries... But I think it is the same in most of them.
Italy speaking here and I can confirm this. Spam comming from local or
tons of IPs all over .it, .fr, .de, .uk, .pl, .be, .nl, .es
Mostly subscribers on cable/dsl/dialup netowks.
As I said: zombies
...and the controllers of this zombies sits... who knows?
I mean there are practically no more messages comming from the own or
neighbor countries sending marketing
My point isn't that I can prove that spam laws aren't
worthwhile. However, if you believe that once legislation is
passed all of the spammers will think to themselves, The
party is over. Time to give up spamming and volunteer at an
Aids hospice., you are incredibly naïve.
Even if
Any recommendations on which anti spam databases to use that
actually work?
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg82556.html
and
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg82612.html
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Thank you Marcus for the very informative analysis. I see
that we're not using some of the more accurate tests (because
our global.cfg file is a little out of date). A number of
these tests are not defined in Declude's example glogal.cfg
file. Can you supply a global.cfg (or part of
Beside Scott's monthly stats showing up which test can catch more spam I
wondered what each single test can contribute to catch as many spam as
possible by having as few false positives as possible. (on a MTA processing
legit messages from over 1000 mailboxes)
The calculation is based on the
The question often comes off looking like I'm too lazy
to find the answer myself but I know there's a bunch of
people whose time is worth less than my time so I'll ask them.
I agree.
The cause: For any question - even if posted 1000 times - there will be some
reply with a complete
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Would it be possible to make every new subscribber click on I agree and
understand after each paragraph of this article before he can post a
message?
Markus ;-)
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Does anyone else have interest in having the Webmail in ASP
to make it easier to integrate with an existing site, or to
simply customize? Just curious of the interest level so that
Ipswitch may take notice.
We use KWM with images hosted on an IIS-Webserver and are happy with this
any comments on these or suggestions on lists to add?
At the moment I'm working on a automated rating for different test types.
Attached you can find a first result for Ip-Blacklists.
A short explanation:
The results are based on 73000 messages processed on a tipical small ISP
Mailserver.
The
2) False positive
If your Server is smart enough to know what is a FP, why it was hold as
spam?
Or in other words: The only way to identify FPs is to check manualy your
hold messages, or at least log files.
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