Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, You can't use RTL in plain text mode because of a simple issue: what would tell the text to be in RTL? If's there's no HTML/CSS decleration about RTL, why should the mail be in RTL? I know that kmail for example is smart enough to detect that if a paragraph begins in hebrew text, then it

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 25 February 2008 06:36, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: I feel dumb.. Am I missing something, or is it just impossible to send Right-To-Left mails in plaintext? Must I use HTML mails when I write in Hebrew? I use plain text for my E-mail in Hebrew

Re: Sound not working in flash (e.g. youtube)

2008-02-25 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
what happend when you run ll /dev/dsp echo 1 2 3 /dev/dsp ? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Tom Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tip, however this does not seem to help. But I have a few questions. - I do not have an 'alsa reload' Did you mean 'alsactl restore'? -

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Tomer Cohen
Hi, You can actually use RTL in UTF-8, just place RLE (U+202B) in the start of each Hebrew sentence and PDF (U+202C) at the end (PDF is not a most, since each end of sentence gets it automatically, but I see it as a good practice). Keep in mind that some plain text users might scream at this

Re: Sound not working in flash (e.g. youtube)

2008-02-25 Thread Tom Rosenfeld
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what happend when you run ll /dev/dsp echo 1 2 3 /dev/dsp ? # ll /dev/dsp crw--- 1 tom_rosenfeld root 14, 3 Feb 10 08:43 /dev/dsp The permissions look fine and the echo produces a click. Again, all

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:14:15AM +0200, Oren Held wrote: Hi, I feel dumb.. Am I missing something, or is it just impossible to send Right-To-Left mails in plaintext? Must I use HTML mails when I write in Hebrew? איך ההודעה הזו נראית? -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, איך ההודעה הזו נראית? In hebrew, but justified to the left -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org

Re: Sound not working in flash (e.g. youtube)

2008-02-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
it's ugly, but I had the same issue, and what I did is to change the permissions to 0666 for /dev/dsp chmod a+rw /dev/dsp Hetz On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Tom Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what

Re: Sound not working in flash (e.g. youtube)

2008-02-25 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
Yea, it looks problem in the plug in only. (would you like to reinstall it?) BTW, do you use Skype? Does it work? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Tom Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what happend when you

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:14:20PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, איך ההודעה הזו נראית? In hebrew, but justified to the left So gmail chose the strange hueristics of following the first (strong) character of the message. bidiv showed it OK. Though in this reply the Hebrew paragraph

mail server and gmail SPAM

2008-02-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I have here 4 Linux machines, which will be running some forums, db etc... 2 of the machines, when testing to send mail to gmail, send it and I recieve it correctly. However, 2 other servers when they send mail, the mail goes directly to the SPAM folder in gmail. I can do the simple trick

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Micha
sorry, sent it off list by mistake, for some reason reply to list doesn't work with this list On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:37:18 +0200 Micha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:29:11 + Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:14:20PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Micha
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:49:26 +0200 Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You can't use RTL in plain text mode because of a simple issue: what would tell the text to be in RTL? If's there's no HTML/CSS decleration about RTL, why should the mail be in RTL? I know that kmail for example

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:14:15AM +0200, Oren Held wrote: Hi, I feel dumb.. Am I missing something, or is it just impossible to send Right-To-Left mails in plaintext? Must I use HTML mails when I write in Hebrew? Tzafrir mentioned it off-hand, but I'd like to stress Nadav Har'El's bidiv.

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:14 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, איך ההודעה הזו נראית? In hebrew, but justified to the left I use Evolution (version 2.6.3, from Debian Etch) to read my E-mail, and in Evolution, the Hebrew line is right-justified, with RTL direction (the question mark is to

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:59:11AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:14:15AM +0200, Oren Held wrote: Hi, I feel dumb.. Am I missing something, or is it just impossible to send Right-To-Left mails in plaintext? Must I use HTML mails when I write in Hebrew? איך

Re: mail server and gmail SPAM

2008-02-25 Thread Dotan Shavit
I guess they have different IP addresses... Could it be the these 2 are blacklisted? # On Monday 25 February 2008, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I have here 4 Linux machines, which will be running some forums, db etc... 2 of the machines, when testing to send mail to gmail, send it and I

Re: mail server and gmail SPAM

2008-02-25 Thread Yuval Hager
On Monday 25 February 2008, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I have here 4 Linux machines, which will be running some forums, db etc... 2 of the machines, when testing to send mail to gmail, send it and I recieve it correctly. However, 2 other servers when they send mail, the mail goes directly to

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 25 בFebruary 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 01:14:20PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, איך ההודעה הזו נראית? כפי שהיא צריכה להיות, מימין לשמאל וצמודה לימין. אני משתמש ב־kmail גרסה 3.5.8 ב-Fedora. In applications that use correct bidi algorithm the RTL is a

Re: mail server and gmail SPAM

2008-02-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Yuval, I had checked on all the usual suspects of blacklists - spamhaus, RBL, etc. Those 2 machine's IP are not blacklisted. Regarding spam assassin - any test mail simply goes to spam, even a simple: echo Hello World | mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s This is an email test - goes directly to spam.

Re: RTL in plaintext mails

2008-02-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 25/02/2008, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: כפי שהיא צריכה להיות, מימין לשמאל וצמודה לימין. אני משתמש ב־kmail גרסה 3.5.8 ב-Fedora. In applications that use correct bidi algorithm the RTL is a given. However the unicode bidi alrgorithm does not specify (AFAIR) the *initial*