Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Ted Durant
> On Dec 25, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Bernard Duhon wrote: > >  > Less leg extension, so lower your saddle, there is more toe overlap and > finally slightly different muscles are used. I found the same. I lowered my saddle height both for slightly less shoe+pedal stack height and for foot

RE: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Bernard Duhon
I have a couple of Thompson 0 setback seatpost if your interested. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Garth Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:23 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips." No retention at all for me for that last 20 some ye

RE: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Bernard Duhon
& pedals. I got em I’ll use em. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of SallyG Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 4:12 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips." As always, I'm learning lots from the conversation! Thank you, always a pleasure

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread SallyG
As always, I'm learning lots from the conversation! Thank you, always a pleasure. To add my non-technical two cents: I used to ride with toe clips/leather straps. They have (probably) saved my life...and also caused me harm. Riding my second-hand Raleigh Gran Sport fast down a steep grade in

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Garth
Nice Patrick ! Perfect body position, for me and he, apparently ! On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 3:29:08 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > You must be the forgotten heir of Alexi Grewal who notoriously rode a > Clark Kent frame with hugely steep seat tube to get comfortable and > powerful. >

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Now that's worth learning; good information. On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 1:30 PM Ted Durant wrote: > ... > Binding-less pedals also have to be matched with compatible shoes. I've > experienced a similar issue as Patrick, where the pins on a pedal don't > line up nicely with the bottom of a shoe,

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Ted Durant
On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 2:02:38 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: If I ever build a dedicated shopping bike I think I'll try no-retention again, but this time without pinned pedals; it was the pins that annoyed me when I tried platforms a couple of years ago because they were always

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Garth
No retention at all for me for that last 20 some years. Since my feet are positioned more midfoot and the pedals have good pins to grip Altra Lone Peaks(w/150mm cranks), I have no need for anything else. I have no pins on the other side and the even then my feet stay in place from feel. .Since

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Jason Fuller
I used SPD's when I raced XC, but never enjoyed them. I ride reasonably long distances (50 to 130 miles) and while I'm sure I'm losing a little bit of oomph on the climbs, my knees are much happier when I can move my foot around at will. I prefer flats for riding on slippery or sketchy stuff,

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Thinking out loud: if I ever get a replacement frame for the Monocog, which I use for most of time when I run the dog, I may well try Urbans or the wonderful value-for-money GR-1s, plus MKS X-deep clips and loose straps (with toe clip buttons and strap pads, of course, just for style). I like the

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Patrick Moore
If I ever build a dedicated shopping bike I think I'll try no-retention again, but this time without pinned pedals; it was the pins that annoyed me when I tried platforms a couple of years ago because they were always holding the shoe (and I bought a nice pair of platform cycling shoes) in the

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread rltilley
I just remembered I also used Power Grips which was a nice combination of foot retention and normal shoes. The one downside to power grips was that they needed to be adjusted for shoes that were materially different in size from the shoes used to set up the straps. Chuck Taylor’s vs hiking boots

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Andy Beichler
I haven't tried any foot retention in years. It could be that clipless have improved over the years but I haven't tried them in at 15 years or longer. I have, uh, interesting, knees and ankles. I am missing half of the cartilage on my right knee and I am somewhat bow legged. I could never

Re: [RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-24 Thread rltilley
The first bike I bought for myself was a mid 80’s Schwinn Sierra and I rode that to commute to work and school. Once I added a road bike (Nishiki Prestige) to that I started reading cycling magazines and learned that the flat pedals I had been using since I started riding weren’t the way to go. So

[RBW] "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-24 Thread Patrick Moore
First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's out-of-context judgment. But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use clipless systems -- and what kind. I'll start: I rode fast