Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-04-05 Thread Wesley
For folks who want a higher rise on these stems, my setup combines a super-tall quill-to-threadless adapter (https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/soma-high-rider-xl-quill-28-6-22-2-290mm-4984) with a 1990s Trek "System 2" stem (for instance:

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-30 Thread scott minor
I've been happy with a 120mm lugged stem w Orthos on my 62cm Atlantis. Sometimes when I'm jumping on the bike quickly I get the feeling my bars just slipped downward but actually they just flexed! So the stem is grabbing pretty well to not slip in this scenario. The stem has pronounced

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-30 Thread Dan
Chris, can I ask how this ended up working for you? If so, what shim did you use? I've set up my Appaloosa with the Orthos and a 120mm VO single-bolt 26.0mm stem. The comfort and control is FANTASTIC, but I can make the bars slip if I push down on them hard. So far it hasn't happened while

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-13 Thread Chris Kannen
Seems to be good agreement on the clamp mismatch. Ron replied to a query about it with "the 4 bolt will meld to the slightly larger diameter just fine -- if not a little better than a 1 or 2 bolt." On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > +1 for the Ritchey Force stems; IME

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-13 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 for the Ritchey Force stems; IME they clamp bars more immovably than single-bolt Nitto stems possibly because of their wider clamps. And +1 for using 25.4 mm steel stems with 26.0 bars. I used to regularly install 26.4 ("point 4") mm Cinelli Giro d'Italias into Salsa and Tioga mountain bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread iamkeith
FWIW, from many years of doing so, I'll second the suggestion (not a promise or recommendation - disclaimer and all that) that 25.4 stems CAN work ok with 26.0 bars. But the only ones Ive had scuccess with are high-end steel stems with a single bolt clamp. They tend to have thinner steel

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread Chris Kannen
Again, thanks much for all the replies and info. I think I'll get the 135 Faceplater. The reason for getting the Nitto Riv version instead of one of these awesome Ritchie's is I need the extra height. FWIW, Ron says a 25.4 clamp works with the 26.0 bar if you pry it open just a touch to fit it

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread Brian McDermott
I went from Billies to orthos on my Appaloosa, had to go from a 120 to 130 for the extra sweep. Finding a suitable 26.0 stem was a challenge, ended up with a Miyata pantographed stem from eBay. On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote: > Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread Michael Monti
As a huge fan of the old Ritchey force stems, I'm going to say that it is very likely that the stems pictured here are designed to accommodate cantilever brakes, aka with cable stops. The clamp diameter being 25.4. Also, I have found these stems hold handlebars very well. The issue with

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread El Sapo
Are those stems with the cable stops 26mm clamp? On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-7 Jordan Rosenblum wrote: > Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a longer > stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars. Another option that I think sits > somewhere

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-12 Thread El Sapo
Is a 1 bolt clamp is going to be adequate on the ortho? The options for mounting this bar are almost all troublesome. Oversized clamp with a shim? Faceplater that’s too short? Undersized clamp? Or the one bolt quill made for a road bike? If you’re putting these bars on an 80’s MTN bike with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-11 Thread Eric Marth
Someone better buy that Ritchey Force it's the perfect size and spiritual aesthetic for the Orthos. On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-4 Jordan Rosenblum wrote: > Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a longer > stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars.

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-11 Thread Richard Rose
For what it is worth Ron used 25.4 clamp size stems and claims & claims they work great. Got to spread that clamp I guess.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 11, 2024, at 12:09 PM, El Sapo wrote:Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-11 Thread El Sapo
Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No megusta.The pics posted by iamKeith don’t show that his hair, beard, and hip vibe are much greater riding the bike with ortho bars. On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7 Chris K

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-11 Thread Chris K
Thank you all for the pics and advice! Very helpful. I'm putting these bars on a 1985 Trek 870. As Riv says on their cardboard geo charts "don't obsess", but geometrically this old frame is not terribly far off some Riv models, setting aside, of course, bb drop and stack (1985 Trek 870: 21.8"