As a huge fan of the old Ritchey force stems, I'm going to say that it is 
very likely that the stems pictured here are designed to accommodate 
cantilever brakes, aka with cable stops.  The clamp diameter being 25.4.  
Also, I have found these stems hold handlebars very well.  The issue with 
these stems is not scratching the bars during install because the steel 
sleeve (the 25.4 part) is a longer length than most single bolt stems 
making it difficult to install anything other than a flat bar.  So, my 
trick for this is to take out the bolt and put it in backwards, starting it 
through the threaded side on the bottom of the sleeve and placing a penny 
in front of the unthreaded side covering it and threading the bolt into the 
penny and with minimal torque the clamp diameter opens up helping to 
prevent any damage to your handlebars during install.  The downside to this 
single bolt stem vs. the faceplater stem is deciding you want to change 
your stem and having to undo one side your beautifully wrapped bars.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

>
> Are those stems with the cable stops 26mm clamp?
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-7 Jordan Rosenblum wrote:
>
>> Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a 
>> longer stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars. Another option that I 
>> think sits somewhere between a face-plater and other single bolt stems are 
>> the Ritchey Force made by Nitto stems of the 90's, which you can 
>> occasionally find in even longer lengths. They are steel with a single 
>> bolt—and very pretty. The downside is that they don't have a ton of rise. 
>> As the poster above mentions, I have successfully used a Ritchey 25.4 clamp 
>> diameter stem with the 26.0 Ortho's, which were very secure—though I don't 
>> presume any knowledge of whether this is long-term safe. 
>>
>> I saw this post just as I was prepping a for-sale post of similar stems 
>> on another forum. If Chris or other folks are interested, the following are 
>> up for grabs, I am going to create a new post so that I don't derail the 
>> thread. These include a 120mm 25.4 faceplate stem, Ritchey 25.4 stems in 
>> 150 and 170mm(!!!!!!!!),  and a Ritchey 135mm, 26.0 (might be what you're 
>> looking for). Regardless, if you don't need a long steering column, I 
>> highly recommend the Ritchey Force stems if you can scrounge up the size 
>> that would work for you.
>>
>> Jordan in Portland, Oregon
>>
>> [image: IMG_6005.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_6011.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:39:02 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> For what it is worth Ron used 25.4 clamp size stems and claims & claims 
>>> they work great. Got to spread that clamp I guess.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:09 PM, El Sapo <charles...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp 
>>> prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No megusta.The pics posted by iamKeith 
>>> don’t show that his hair, beard, and hip vibe are much greater riding the 
>>> bike with ortho bars.
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you all for the pics and advice! Very helpful.
>>>>
>>>> I'm putting these bars on a 1985 Trek 870. As Riv says on their 
>>>> cardboard geo charts "don't obsess", but geometrically this old frame is 
>>>> not terribly far off some Riv models, setting aside, of course, bb drop 
>>>> and 
>>>> stack (1985 Trek 870: 21.8" frame, 71º hta, 71.5º sta, 58.0 tt, 48.5 cs, 
>>>> 5.0 drop, 52.7 stack, 40.6 reach).
>>>>
>>>> My current set-up is Choco bars and an 8cm Dirt Drop. The height feels 
>>>> fine, just slightly above saddle height, and the reach isn't bad either 
>>>> but 
>>>> could be ~1" longer. I'm fairly upright but can lean in and grip forward 
>>>> as 
>>>> needed. I just like the idea of more width and more flare.
>>>>
>>>> Are these details helpful? I'm maybe leaning toward the 135mm 
>>>> Faceplater based on your replies, but that does seem long!
>>>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_9267.jpeg]I’ve got these bars lined up for my Appaloosa 
>>>>> build. 
>>>>> My local bike shop had a NOS Velo Orange Grand Cru stem in 120mm that 
>>>>> looks pretty perfect. It’s 26.0, and having no rise should be slightly 
>>>>> longer in reality than its length number suggests. I’m hoping that the 
>>>>> wider clamp section will help it to grip the bars well too, despite the 
>>>>> single bolt. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday 11 March 2024 at 03:33:24 UTC+10:30 Chris K wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem 
>>>>>> advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame 
>>>>>> factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are 
>>>>>> generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Faceplater 110mm
>>>>>> - Faceplater 135mm
>>>>>> - Tallux 12cm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will the 110 Faceplater be too short?
>>>>>>
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