Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/14/2016 11:17 AM, Beartooth wrote: I run a hybrid of xfce4 and mate, plus k3b and konqueror, on three PCs, a laptop, and a tablet. Tweaking all that after a fresh install involves literally 1.5 - 2 days per machine, going through fine print in yumex, finding things I can delete and

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/14/2016 02:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: AFAIK yum upgrade and yum update have been the same for a very long time. In any case, fedup is no longer recommended and dnf is now the preferred option both for installation and regular updates. I've been using it for a year or so without

Re: Long standing Xfce desktop problem

2016-08-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/14/2016 03:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:33:09 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I don't really know how to categorize this, so let me explain. This started a while back on my F22 system and is continuing on the F24 system. What I switch

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Drew Samson
Thank you for the info. On 8/14/2016 8:23 PM, jd1008 wrote: Some things you might want to know: 1. When you boot windows on the real HW, it creates a HW profile, let's name it X. 2. When you configure the windows partition (Under Linux) to be a drive for a VBox VM, and you boot that

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 16:17:08 -0600, Drew Samson wrote: What disadvantages were you referring to with hardware raid? In some cases you need to replace failed hardware with the same model, which might be difficult to do. MD raid is very hardware agnostic. Unless you buy

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread jd1008
Some things you might want to know: 1. When you boot windows on the real HW, it creates a HW profile, let's name it X. 2. When you configure the windows partition (Under Linux) to be a drive for a VBox VM, and you boot that machine, then windows will detect that it is running on different

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Tim
Tom Horsley: >> The path I always use for updates is to install a virtual machine, get >> everything the way I want it, then guestmount the virtual image and >> rsync it to a hard disk partition where I'll boot it. Beartooth: > It does sound like a very good way for those who can use it. >

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On 08/14/2016 01:14 PM, Drew Samson wrote: <[snip details]> Thanks for any advice & feedback. You may wish to check out a large Lenovo luggable laptop, their 17.3-inch ThinkPad model P70. Your choice of either its Core i7 or its Xeon processor can drive a pair of 4K monitors, a pair of

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread geo.inbox.ignored
On 08/14/2016 04:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: <<<>>> > The issue has nothing to do with "unsigned 64 bit file sizes" or the > ability of TB to work with large files. > > The issue is simply that the developers "failed" to find all the > instances in their code which checked the file size prior to

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 16:17 -0600, Drew Samson wrote: > Thanks for the helpful responses. Now to your questions: > > > On 8/14/2016 3:30 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Why do you use hardware RAID? There is little or no advantage and some > > disadvantages in doing that. Software RAID

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Drew Samson
Thanks for the helpful responses. Now to your questions: On 8/14/2016 3:30 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Why do you use hardware RAID? There is little or no advantage and some disadvantages in doing that. Software RAID works extremely well on Linux. Since the capability is built into many

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread dcw
On 08/14/2016 01:17 PM, Beartooth wrote: I run a hybrid of xfce4 and mate, plus k3b and konqueror, on three PCs, a laptop, and a tablet. Tweaking all that after a fresh install involves literally 1.5 - 2 days per machine, going through fine print in yumex, finding things I can delete

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Hi! I succesfully used a Toshiba Satellite, 8GB RAM and 500GB hard disk. And a Dell Latitude with 4GB RAM, Nvidia card and 250GB hard disk. But maybe this is not high end to you... Cheers, Sylvia On 14 August 2016 at 22:14, Drew Samson wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/15/16 02:35, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/14/2016 04:18 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> On 08/14/16 13:12, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 08/14/16 08:45, jd1008 wrote: Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB. I just tried to move

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 14:14 -0600, Drew Samson wrote: > My question is: what hardware would someone recommend for building a > non-gaming high-end desktop? About the only non-negotiable element are > my 2 30" dell u3011 monitors both running at 2560x1600. Since I'm a > day-trader I need really

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 18:17 +, Beartooth wrote: > I run a hybrid of xfce4 and mate, plus k3b and konqueror, on three > PCs, a laptop, and a tablet. Tweaking all that after a fresh install > involves literally 1.5 - 2 days per machine, going through fine print in > yumex, finding

Re: Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Doug
On 08/14/2016 03:14 PM, Drew Samson wrote: Recently I saw someone indicate nvidia graphics are not linux friendly and since that's what I've always used on my builds an alternative is needed. I have NVidia boards on two desktop computers and one Dell laptop, and I don't have any trouble at

Hardware Suggestions for Desktop Fedora

2016-08-14 Thread Drew Samson
Hello, I've been using Fedora inside Virtual Box on a Windows 7 host for a few years now so I can learn Fedora / Linux before taking the plunge and unplug from Windows more permanently. I think I'm ready to take the plunge and build a new desktop with Fedora 24 being my primary os and at

Re: Long standing Xfce desktop problem

2016-08-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:33:09 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I don't really know how to categorize this, so let me explain. This > started a while back on my F22 system and is continuing on the F24 > system. > > What I switch workspaces I often get a screen that looks

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 14:29:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > The path I always use for updates is to install a virtual machine, get > everything the way I want it, then guestmount the virtual image and > rsync it to a hard disk partition where I'll boot it. > > Just need to fix any UUIDs and

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread jd1008
On 08/14/2016 04:18 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/14/16 13:12, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/14/16 08:45, jd1008 wrote: Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB. I just tried to move contents of a small old inbox into a backup inbox, which would

Re: non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Tom Horsley
The path I always use for updates is to install a virtual machine, get everything the way I want it, then guestmount the virtual image and rsync it to a hard disk partition where I'll boot it. Just need to fix any UUIDs and /dev/sdX that appear in grub.cfg and fstab, then make a "configfile"

non-live media for spins??

2016-08-14 Thread Beartooth
I run a hybrid of xfce4 and mate, plus k3b and konqueror, on three PCs, a laptop, and a tablet. Tweaking all that after a fresh install involves literally 1.5 - 2 days per machine, going through fine print in yumex, finding things I can delete and others I can add. It would

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread jd1008
Come on man I am using TB-34.2.0 (latest) and it cannot allow files (folders) to grow beyond 4GB. Why do you believe BS? On 08/13/2016 11:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/14/16 08:45, jd1008 wrote: Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB still cannot handle folder sizebigger then

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread geo.inbox.ignored
On 08/14/2016 05:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 18:45 -0600, jd1008 wrote: >> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB >> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB. > > What is "the TB"? Context-free acronyms are not immediately obvious to > everyone. > ===>

Re: something messing up USB recently?

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-08-14 at 11:31 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 23:02 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: > > > > > > > > AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. > > > > Yes they do, its just a severely limited version of the OS heavily > > modified by Amazon to directly support

Re: something messing up USB recently?

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 23:02 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: > > AFAIK Kindles don't run on Android. > > Yes they do, its just a severely limited version of the OS heavily > modified by Amazon to directly support Amazon apps.  Amazon has replaced > the default app store with their own, uses the Silk

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-08-13 at 18:45 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB > still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB. What is "the TB"? Context-free acronyms are not immediately obvious to everyone. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: TB 45.2.0 max folder size

2016-08-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/14/16 13:12, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 08/14/16 08:45, jd1008 wrote: >> Here we are in the 21st century, and the TB >> still cannot handle folder sizebigger then 4GB. >> >> I just tried to move contents of a small old inbox into a backup inbox, >> which would have increased the size of the