Um....Snobol? Nope absolutely deny all knowledge. Well.....actually, didn't cut any code in it but did hear about Spitbol. No I kid you not, sort of a super Snobol I was led to believe. I was cutting Cobol at the time, eons ago. :-) A colleague told me about it and I took a look but not a close one.
On 5 January 2017 at 16:35, Ken Wagner <beauco...@gmail.com> wrote: > Keith, > > Thanks for the further explanation and the ll alias. > > What is so hard to digest is that: > > 1. SQLiteMan - a Linux GUI does the *[^1-9]* pattern and omits rows > with digits 1-9 in them. Using 3.11.0. > 2. DBBrowser - Linux GUI does the same using 3.9.2 and 3.11.0 in > different versions, one older. > 3. SQLite Tutorial @ www.sqlitetutorial.net - Has GLOB lesson page. > Uses version @ https://www.sqlite.org/download.html. I downloaded > sqlite-tools-linux-x86-3160100.zip <https://www.sqlite.org/2017/s > qlite-tools-linux-x86-3160100.zip>(1.77 MiB), also 3.15.0. Worked as in > #1 above in both cases in the SQLite Tutorial, but oppositely in the > SQLite3 CLI. > 4. The FireFox 50 SQLite Manager add-on. This one is quite good. Good > layouts, easy to use and detailed. Works as in #1 above. Uses SQLite 3.13.0. > > Yet the SQLite3 CLI does the OPPOSITE and _includes_ any names with digits > 1-9 in them with vv 3.15.0 and 3.16.0. > > Do you have any idea why? Is it really the dim sum?? > > This will have to be explained to my intended customers because some will > use the SQLite3 CLI. Most will use a GUI as they are not very computer > literate. I will be offering them training and also directing them to > training at a good web SQLite tutorial. > > All of the above are using the 'chinook.db'. My system is Linux/Ubuntu > 16.04, SQLite3 3.15.0 and 3.16.0 CLIs and the above programs. I use the CLI > in both the Terminator and Gnome-Terminal. Some minor differences with > encoding. > > > Ken > > > > On 01/04/2017 10:49 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > Yes. The GLOB was invented on Unix. I posted an example of the Unix >> filename globbing (which has not changed, to my knowledge, since the 60's), >> which works exactly the same as the GLOB operator in SQLite 3.9.0 through >> the current head of trunk. Perhaps there were minor changes, but nothing >> that affects the output of the *[1-9]* or *[^1-9]* patterns when applied to >> the same data used in the Linux demonstration. However, I did not try and >> build every single version of SQLite between 3.9.0 to 3.17.0 to see if one >> of them happened to be broken. The two ends and a sampling from the middle >> all worked the same. >> >> And by the way, GLOB predates REGEX by about 15 years. REGEX borrowed >> (and modified) GLOB syntax. >> >> (in case you have never used a Linux/Unix system with an ll command >> alias, the command to create it is: alias ll='ls -l') >> >> Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that the authors of the third-party tools have >> not provided their own GLOB function that works differently, perhaps in >> accordance with their Dim Sum because their little hearts did not desire >> the built in one? >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] >>> On Behalf Of Ken Wagner >>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 January, 2017 21:24 >>> To: SQLite mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite3 Tutorial error >>> >>> Aha! GLOB is an implementation of the UNIX Glob function. It just >>> borrows the regex character notation of [^1-9]. >>> >>> I have 3.15 and 3.16 CLIs installed. Trying any other CLI versions at >>> this point won't help for the customer. They will be using a SQLite3 >>> GUI. I will explain the difference between the CLI and the GUI versions. >>> >>> Where is this UNIX Glob notation spelled out? My system is Linux. I >>> expect the UNIX version will be somewhat different. >>> >>> The Linux GLOB is used to find patterns in pathnames (not databases.) Is >>> the Unix version the same? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> On 01/04/2017 11:51 AM, R Smith wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2017/01/04 7:01 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Jan 4, 2017, at 5:57 AM, R Smith <rsm...@rsweb.co.za> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As I have it (and as is implemented by SQLite) the GLOB operator >>>>>> implements a REGEXP that matches against a regexp pattern >>>>>> >>>>> No, these are NOT regular expressions in the usual sense of the word. >>>>> GLOB's syntax is incompatible with what are commonly called “regular >>>>> expressions”, and its feature set is a lot more limited. (It may >>>>> technically implement a type of regular expression in the underlying >>>>> algorithmic sense, but I think using the term is misleading.) >>>>> >>>> Quite correct, I meant REGEXP as an internal function of the >>>> Regular-expression type, not the official "regular expression" syntax >>>> - So a "misleading term" then in your words. Allow me to be more clear >>>> then: GLOB in SQLite specifically matches Unix file globbing syntax >>>> (which is very different to official RegEx). 3rd party utilities can >>>> override both the internal REGEXP and GLOB functions with custom >>>> versions. >>>> https://sqlite.org/lang_expr.html#glob >>>> >>>> The bit I don't know for sure is whether Unix file globbing will >>>> regard 'AB5' as matching '*[^1-9]*' or not? I know in SQLite it >>>> matches (and I believe this to be correct, but I could be mistaken and >>>> I don't have a Unix box handy to test). >>>> >>>> Either way, the concern is more towards consistency than specific >>>> operation. >>>> The SQLite scripts I sent previously will reveal any difference >>>> between versions if they exist. Have you tried it on different >>>> versions of the CLI? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sqlite-users mailing list >>>> sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >>>> http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sqlite-users mailing list >>> sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >>> http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sqlite-users mailing list >> sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >> http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users > -- Regards, Michael.j.Falconer. _______________________________________________ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
