On 06/10/2015 03:09 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 10.06.15 14:53, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:
WHat really surprises me about the whole discussion is that we cannot
be the first ones running into this. Given the success of github this
must be a common issue. And if it is, then either github is actually
prety bad, or I am too stuck in my bugzilla mindset and haven't really
grokked the github way of doing things yet.
If you want good review tool, why not use gerrit?
We do not have the resources to maintain our own infrastructure.
In term of manpower we have 452 code contributors and 1170 members
subscribed to this list.
Then there are several means to fund that infrastructure so could you please
clarify how you come to this conclusion that we are short on resources?
"lurkers" and "admins who are committed to continously run services
for us for free over years" are quite different things.
Also, systemd is not an organization, we are just some losely
affiliated hackers. We have no budget, we have no money, we cannot
employ anyone, and we have zero intention to change that and acquire
budget/money/administration.
o_O
Without proper infrastructure ( or at least the wills to acquire such )
how can you ( or any of us for that matter ) with a straight face
advocate for consolidation and call systemd the modern building block of
an OS ( which arguably means this is second component to the Linux
kernel ) and sell distribution and companies that it should be what they
rely on?
All these years we have work hard on all distribution and embedded
switch to us, rely on us and when push comes to shove we go "meh" we
have no intention to go to the next level to properly support you?
Am I the only one here that feels any obligation and responsibility to
our downstream consumers?
I need a drink...
JBG
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