----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad" <innocentkil...@gmail.com>
> > In fact on any page on either site, one cannot find any link to the
> > corresponding page on the other site.
> 
> Yeah, secure.wikimedia.org's URL scheme isn't really friendly
> to outsiders. Historically, this is because SSL certificates are
> expensive, and there just wasn't enough money in the budget
> to get more of them for the top-level domains. Maybe this isn't
> the case anymore.

Is that in fact the root cause, Chad?  I assumed, myself, that it's because
of the squid architecture.

> > So now everybody will be passing around two times the amount of
> > links to what in fact is the same material.
> 
> If people are pasting double links, then they're being silly. I
> imagine a lot of stuff on Commons uses {{fullurl:}} so the links
> are properly generated by MediaWiki.

No, in fact the root cause of his complaint is pretty likely to be
HTTPS-everywhere, which redirects users to the https site in case they're
at an insecure wifi spot, so their creds don't get stolen.

This is likely to markedly increase https traffic; I've myself been wondering
if that's been noticed the last month.

> Redirection would be pointless. Serving them from the same
> domain (eg: https://commons.wikimedia.org) would be great
> and is already posted as a bug[0]. I think this is your primary
> complaint, but as usual you spent half of your post insulting
> people and creating straw men.

Aspergers' syndrome is a bitch.

Cheers,
-- jra

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