Quoting Webster:
Main Entry: 1un·der·ground
Pronunciation: "&n-d&r-'graund
Function: adverb
Date: 1571
1 : beneath the surface of the earth
2 : in or into hiding or secret operation
Main Entry: 2underground
Pronunciation: '&n-d&r-"
Function: noun
Date: 1594
1 : a subterranean space or channel
2 : an underground city railway system
3 a : a movement or group organized in strict secrecy among citizens
especially in an occupied
country for maintaining communications, popular solidarity, and concerted
resistive action
pending liberation b : a clandestine conspiratorial organization set up for
revolutionary
or other disruptive purposes especially against a civil order c : an
unofficial,
unsanctioned, or illegal but informal movement or group; especially : a
usually
avant-garde group or movement that functions outside the establishment
Main Entry: 3un·der·ground
Pronunciation: '&n-d&r-"graund
Function: adjective
Date: 1610
1 : being, growing, operating, or situated below the surface of the ground
2 : conducted by secret means
3 a : existing outside the establishment <an underground literary
reputation> b : existing outside the purview of tax collectors or
statisticians <the underground economy>
4 a : produced or published outside the establishment especially by the
avant-garde <underground movies> <underground newspapers> b : of or relating
to the avant-garde underground <an underground moviemaker> <an underground
theater>
Main Entry: Underground Railroad
Function: noun
Date: 1842
: a system of cooperation among active antislavery people in the U.S. before
1863 by which fugitive slaves were secretly helped to reach the North or
Canada -- called also Underground Railway
I think we are just arguing over the perceived definition of a word now.
Which means that someone had to get a definition. (that underground
railroad was just for fun!) Anyways, read the definitions before you start
calling someone a "sell-out" or what have you. If you like or dislike the
music, that's where you should stand, not telling them they can't promote
themselves on this list. If you can give your opinion, then they can
self-promote. Even if you think they are "selling-out", that's their right.
Regards,
Dennis.
From: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FRED MCMURRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Underground (was Re: [313] Pooh-blahs)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:44:44 -0500 (CDT)
I think 'underground' doesn't mean that you can't sell records, or sign
with a label. What's exciting to me is the stuff that happens outside
the traditional manufacturing, distribution and publicity systems.
Is Watts Music 'underground?' or Sonic Groove? No. They're brick and mortar
businesses whose survival is dependent upon them operating as good
capitalists.
But they are 'underground' in that that sell outside the retail channels,
to
specialist stores. They're way out at the edge of things. And there is
a consequent strain when people try to make the leap (Detroit Grand
Pubahs?),
because to really play in that larger mass arena you have to tap into
a whole new structure for distribution.
kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=chaircrusher -- mix
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