Indeed it seems that there is a difference between the US approach of Hard
House. Here in Europe Hard House is fast uptempo cheesy  trance-like music,
not really a 313 topic at all.

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>  I personally have only heard the term used to describe the 
>  uk high nrg sound
>  you mention.
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>  >From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Sent: 04 October 2000 03:59
>  >To: 313@hyperreal.org
>  >Subject: [313] hard house?
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>  >
>  >since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general 
>  consensus on
>  >what hard house consists of?  i've heard it used to describe a
>  >traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or 
>  sinister, something
>  >along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and 
>  >what frankie
>  >bones seems to be spinning lately.  then i've also heard the 
>  >term applied
>  >to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high 
>  >nrg, trancey
>  >type sound.  can someone help me with my genres please. . .  piece.
>  >
>  >kyle 
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