It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has
Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -----Original Message----- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] Sent: 07 May 2009 16:05 To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? Well said Kent. I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties. And even though there is a lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great musicians that I can't wait to see perform. The fact that Al Ester and Stacey Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool. They have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades. Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! All the Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too. And the electrobounce/Starski & Clutch business should be great as usual. Obviously that promo video is not meant for "us" or for most Detroiters. Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not putting on a "Detroit music" festival and they don't do a good job in getting Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still happening here and I think that's a good thing. It would be so fabulous if it really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local and African American crowd. I would love to know if the festival planners actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival. I wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to Detroit residents. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think it's way more complicated than just "Paxahau is racist" or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. Denise On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: > You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve > recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person > featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. > > Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your > concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and > feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno > fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't > noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going > age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an > E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so > hard to make a festival. > > We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of > us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general > awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many > people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup > was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating > going on about it. > > If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe > it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic > lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S > during the day at a rooftop party! > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder <r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk> wrote: >> Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im >> sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed >> to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? >> >> Rav >> > -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ ##################################################################################### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #####################################################################################
