It seems like time for some of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aSypQmLRA

Albeit sounds more and more ironic every year, to me anyway ......

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:13 PM
To: kent williams; Arturo Lopez
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" 
about the D

Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists.
This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too.
It would be great if it could happen in Detroit.
Is there much of a squat scene in the US?
In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage 
arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' 
neigbourhoods.
This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London:
http://www.liveattheapollo.org/
But it's happening all over:
http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops

Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
x8599
Hatch Desk x1088
 VT Library Users' Guide

-----Original Message-----
From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47
To: Arturo Lopez
Cc: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" 
about the D

I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to
Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever.  Places where people
can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation
of new art.

I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is.  But if
you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To
me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all
it's waiting for is the right spark.

Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and
as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the
world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living
there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate,
the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good.  And somehow every
'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help
the poorest of the poor.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez <arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1
>
> Very funny article about Detroit "ruin porn" and all the cleverly
> cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside
> journalists come to the city.
>
> I loved the line about a "bunch of "Billyburg hipsters" moving to the
> city to start urban farms.  Mostly because this is an actual dream of
> my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants
> her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha.
>
> -Art
>
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