I think what you have identified is an ideological aspect of dance/electronic music - there is a tier structure, cerebral Detroit techno, then DJ tool techno, then a further down trance, then right, right, right down NU NRG like Captain Tinrib. Maybe there is a semblance of tribalism here, but, hey, that's the nature of a subculture..... I think what the other guys probably think is that trance has a million outlets, this is a space for a music that is increasingly marginalised - and endangered by trance (note how US houseers Danny Tenaglia and Deep Dish have changed to progressive in recent years). That's why people are gonna get defensive. When people say they hate trance here, there is a complex ideological, socio-cultural reason and emotional reason for it, it's not showing off. You could argue this point forever but it's just gonna make people upset and angry. There may well be some OK trance, but there are other forums for that. That's the point. You could go on those and ask them, why are all you (esp UK) trance cats heaping s**t on Detroit and US DJs? Why is it that even Carl Cox is finding it a little harder to play in the UK because techno is not deemed cool by the clubs who are jumping on the hard house bandbaggon?? Etc.
>>If someone doesn't like a style of music I wouldn't call it following a >>trend. > > >its not a matter of liking one genre and disliking another. Its a matter of >vocalizing it to a point that you're simply beating your chest to show the >rest of the group how legit you are. To me, it looks like "see, see, i can >hate trance too. everyone, everyone, do you see me?" > >Get where i'm going with this now. > > >>Just b/c someone like techno and hates trance doesn't >>mean they are following any trend at all. > > >Again, i don't know if i'm going to respond to the rest of this, since >you're arguing grapefruit while i'm arguing skateboarding. > > > >>but this isn't other lists and trance >>for the majority isn't appreciated on this list<yes there are some >>exceptions>but again I said majority...the topic of the list in Detroit >>techno and related subjects and it strives to keep that topic... > > >ok, so where does bleating 'i hate trance' multiple times have to do with >detroit techno then? > >Here's the statement that originally started all this: > >"I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me >feel ;)" > > >ok, do you see with this single statement where i'm coming from now? > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >