Ok,
You've all had a great laugh at Moby, and man I bet he's just crying. None
of you know the man, most of you have never seen his face other than on T.V.
So what do you know about him? What he feeds to the media? Let's print off
everything aybody ever says on this list and hold them to it for the rest of
their lives. Get off your horse! People change. I've gone through so many
musical shifts in my lifetime it's uncanny, and I'm sure the whole lot of
you grew up with techno too right? Please.
Take away the definition of the artist, take away the words and the
interviews, the commercials and the movies. They are all just money making
schemes of the music industry. Now listen to the music. Just the music.
Is it all that bad? Can you not feel some emotion emanating from it?
RE: White boy stole gospel samples and makes mockery of oppression. This is
a load of crap, with all the makings of bad religous overtones and racism
galore. It's funny, in the cd copy of 'Play' I have beside me now all the
samples are acknowledged in the liner notes and moreover the songs capture a
playful nature with subtle longing underneath. Make of this what you will
but it seems to connect in a lot of ways.
I first heard 'Porcelain' in a commercial for Bailey's Irish Cream. I first
heard several other tracks on the album while watching 'The Beach". I liked
these songs, and I didn't know who the artist was. Moreover I still don't
care that it was Moby, it's good music.
I don't usually feel this compelled to stick up for anybody, but jeez, you
would love to think that Moby is a narrow minded prick. Maybe it's all of
you who can't get past the media surrounding him, or the fact that he's
using his music to make himself some cash (God forbid and artist use his/her
work to make money). A good foil for this would be Mr. Hawtin, who despite
not saying much to the media has fed you all the biggest lie: DEFX909. It's
a great recording, but contains nothing that you all hold so dear about it
ie. it's mixed by a computer (pro tools), and there is no FX and no 909.
It's all a lie and you've let yourselves be taken. Rich too is trying to
grab some cash while he can, he knows techno won't be fresh forever and that
being a professional DJ isn't a lifelong career. He has simply taken a
different route to the same goal; cash grab.
Techno has pigeon holed itself as I predicted it would back in 93. Back
then so much more was acceptable, it wasn't as defined and made producing
techno for Moby much more interesting. Since techno has been overdefined by
the headz and the critics, Moby no longer fits the mold. He wants to go
play in other fields as well. Rich is going to suck techno dry. He had to
play last at DEMF last year though Derrick deserved it more than anyone
else. He couldn't be recorded because he knows he's a limited commodity.
Open your eyes people its the music industry and you know what they say
"When in Rome, do as the Romans".
Think before typing, your shoes are not your own
todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "tim maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "christos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Before you dis Moby....
> "...And at that time there was so much great house music and techno being
> > made, so in the early 90's I didn't pay attention to it at all...why
when
> > I can go listen to Derrick May, why would I want to listen to N.W.A.?"
>
> sorry - but all that shows me about maybe is that he's narrow minded. im
> down with dre, cube et al just as much as i am with derrick.
>
> moby made a handful of interesting records back in the day ("go" being the
> mosty notable) - but now all he does is make boring sub indie/trip hop
> nastiness for 30 something advertising executives and those that think
they
> know about dance music cos they saw fatboy slim on mtv.
>
> (gets of soapbox)
>
> cheers;)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "christos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:23 PM
> Subject: [313] Before you dis Moby....
>
>
> >
> > I can honestly say that I do not know much about Moby's music, but his
> > last interview in a recent URB definately caught my eye. Check out
these
> > quotes. The first one was a responce on what he thought of Hip Hop now
> > and then:
> >
> > "...And at that time there was so much great house music and techno
being
> > made, so in the early 90's I didn't pay attention to it at all...why
when
> > I can go listen to Derrick May, why would I want to listen to N.W.A.?"
> >
> > Believe it or not, even though he is mainstream, he was still influenced
> > by the Detroit pioneers.
> >
> > To be honest, I dont think it will be a horrible thingif he gets booked.
> > He will attract a lot of people, maybe even more out of towners, and i
> > doubt that they will show up for his set and leave, refusing to expose
> > themselves to that "313 stuff." I mean last year on the main stage on
the
> > last night, the line up was Kevin Saunderson, Rolando, Derrick May, and
> > Richie Hawtin. How can you ever expect to come close to that every year
> > without rehashing the same lineup?
> >
>
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> > "if heaven ain't a lot like detroit, I don't want to go. if heaven ain't
a
> > lot like detroit, I'd just assume stay home. If they ain't got no 8-mile
> > like they do up in the D, just send me to hell or salt lake city, it'd
be
> > about the same to me"
> > -Uncle Kracker
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