uh oh, now you've started something
cue 7 weeks of hawtin rules/hawtin sucks etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Todd Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@Hyperreal.Org <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Before you dis Moby....
> hey man...im not out to diss moby for the sake of it....to be honest, i
just
> find his music really, really dull.
>
> the same way i find a lot of hawtins stuff dull.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Cc: "tim maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [313] Before you dis Moby....
>
>
> > Ok,
> >
> > You've all had a great laugh at Moby, and man I bet he's just crying.
> None
> > of you know the man, most of you have never seen his face other than on
> T.V.
> > So what do you know about him? What he feeds to the media? Let's print
> off
> > everything aybody ever says on this list and hold them to it for the
rest
> of
> > their lives. Get off your horse! People change. I've gone through so
> many
> > musical shifts in my lifetime it's uncanny, and I'm sure the whole lot
of
> > you grew up with techno too right? Please.
> >
> > Take away the definition of the artist, take away the words and the
> > interviews, the commercials and the movies. They are all just money
> making
> > schemes of the music industry. Now listen to the music. Just the
music.
> > Is it all that bad? Can you not feel some emotion emanating from it?
> >
> > RE: White boy stole gospel samples and makes mockery of oppression.
This
> is
> > a load of crap, with all the makings of bad religous overtones and
racism
> > galore. It's funny, in the cd copy of 'Play' I have beside me now all
the
> > samples are acknowledged in the liner notes and moreover the songs
capture
> a
> > playful nature with subtle longing underneath. Make of this what you
will
> > but it seems to connect in a lot of ways.
> >
> > I first heard 'Porcelain' in a commercial for Bailey's Irish Cream. I
> first
> > heard several other tracks on the album while watching 'The Beach". I
> liked
> > these songs, and I didn't know who the artist was. Moreover I still
don't
> > care that it was Moby, it's good music.
> >
> > I don't usually feel this compelled to stick up for anybody, but jeez,
you
> > would love to think that Moby is a narrow minded prick. Maybe it's all
> of
> > you who can't get past the media surrounding him, or the fact that he's
> > using his music to make himself some cash (God forbid and artist use
> his/her
> > work to make money). A good foil for this would be Mr. Hawtin, who
> despite
> > not saying much to the media has fed you all the biggest lie: DEFX909.
> It's
> > a great recording, but contains nothing that you all hold so dear about
it
> > ie. it's mixed by a computer (pro tools), and there is no FX and no 909.
> > It's all a lie and you've let yourselves be taken. Rich too is trying
to
> > grab some cash while he can, he knows techno won't be fresh forever and
> that
> > being a professional DJ isn't a lifelong career. He has simply taken a
> > different route to the same goal; cash grab.
> >
> > Techno has pigeon holed itself as I predicted it would back in 93. Back
> > then so much more was acceptable, it wasn't as defined and made
producing
> > techno for Moby much more interesting. Since techno has been
overdefined
> by
> > the headz and the critics, Moby no longer fits the mold. He wants to go
> > play in other fields as well. Rich is going to suck techno dry. He had
> to
> > play last at DEMF last year though Derrick deserved it more than anyone
> > else. He couldn't be recorded because he knows he's a limited
commodity.
> >
> > Open your eyes people its the music industry and you know what they say
> > "When in Rome, do as the Romans".
> >
> > Think before typing, your shoes are not your own
> > todd
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tim maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "christos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [313] Before you dis Moby....
> >
> >
> > > "...And at that time there was so much great house music and techno
> being
> > > > made, so in the early 90's I didn't pay attention to it at all...why
> > when
> > > > I can go listen to Derrick May, why would I want to listen to
N.W.A.?"
> > >
> > > sorry - but all that shows me about maybe is that he's narrow minded.
im
> > > down with dre, cube et al just as much as i am with derrick.
> > >
> > > moby made a handful of interesting records back in the day ("go" being
> the
> > > mosty notable) - but now all he does is make boring sub indie/trip hop
> > > nastiness for 30 something advertising executives and those that think
> > they
> > > know about dance music cos they saw fatboy slim on mtv.
> > >
> > > (gets of soapbox)
> > >
> > > cheers;)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "christos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:23 PM
> > > Subject: [313] Before you dis Moby....
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I can honestly say that I do not know much about Moby's music, but
his
> > > > last interview in a recent URB definately caught my eye. Check out
> > these
> > > > quotes. The first one was a responce on what he thought of Hip Hop
> now
> > > > and then:
> > > >
> > > > "...And at that time there was so much great house music and techno
> > being
> > > > made, so in the early 90's I didn't pay attention to it at all...why
> > when
> > > > I can go listen to Derrick May, why would I want to listen to
N.W.A.?"
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, even though he is mainstream, he was still
> influenced
> > > > by the Detroit pioneers.
> > > >
> > > > To be honest, I dont think it will be a horrible thingif he gets
> booked.
> > > > He will attract a lot of people, maybe even more out of towners, and
i
> > > > doubt that they will show up for his set and leave, refusing to
expose
> > > > themselves to that "313 stuff." I mean last year on the main stage
on
> > the
> > > > last night, the line up was Kevin Saunderson, Rolando, Derrick May,
> and
> > > > Richie Hawtin. How can you ever expect to come close to that every
> year
> > > > without rehashing the same lineup?
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > "if heaven ain't a lot like detroit, I don't want to go. if heaven
> ain't
> > a
> > > > lot like detroit, I'd just assume stay home. If they ain't got no
> 8-mile
> > > > like they do up in the D, just send me to hell or salt lake city,
it'd
> > be
> > > > about the same to me"
> > > > -Uncle Kracker
> > >
> >
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