That was meant to be private, sincerest apologies. I pressed 'reply all' as
I am very tired.
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>From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: laura gavoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] Detroit + Dance--ON topic!!
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:22 PM
>

>Hey Laura
>
>How are you?
>
>I had been meaning to call and catch up now my baby ed is back and I can
>take some time out. The events in the US are terrible and deeply troubling
>and I want to know everyone is OK. I hope your family and friends are OK. I
>will try calling again this week.
>
>Heaps of love
>
>Cyclone
>
>
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>>From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [313] Detroit + Dance--ON topic!!
>>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 1:01 AM
>>
>
>>Races of people are DEFINED and otherwise anthropologically analyzed and 
>>studied by the culture of their society(ies).  That being said, our culture 
>>will be defined by the 'dance' exhibited in music videos and titty bars.
>>
>>For decades, Americans have only supported ballet and classical music-- both 
>>white, European and considered 'upper crusty'.  While classical music has 
>>been all but eliminated from some folks diets, like in Detroit where we now 
>>support NO classical music radio station.
>>
>>Most underclass art forms-- like the black dance-- have had to market 
>>fiercely and find support from private foundations and institutions to have 
>>a presence and continue enriching the lives of the TRULY unimaginative 
>>capitalist.
>>
>>Dancers are like any other artist.  They simply know they must dance, or 
>>their lives are over, lackluster and pain-filled.  We've survived and will 
>>continue to survive whether we are popular by your definitions or not.   
>>Much like the music and artists that this list is built around, some years 
>>may bring popularity and more revenue, most will not.
>>
>>It detracts NOT from the art and certainly not from this artist.
>>
>>I imagine you've never, BY YOUR OWN DESIRE, ever gone to see ANY dance 
>>company.  Why should you when there are professional atheletes ?  Americans 
>>have become a people very much like lemmings--ignorant of not only the 
>>present, but with eyes wide shut running after the head 'lem' straight off a 
>>cliff.
>>
>>Like any act from one's higher self, dance is a joy experienced only in The 
>>Expression or The Giving.  While it is meant to take something obscure, 
>>illuminate it and clarify it, it matters not a whit whether you get it or 
>>not.  It will continue in spite of you.
>>
>>To see movement of the caliber that I experienced watching the Ailey dancers 
>>was the highest form of appreciation that Roy Davis Jr., et. al could 
>>possibly envision.  Beat for beat, musically technical elocution matched 
>>impeccably with physically technical elocution...those dancers EMBODIED 
>>Roy's music.  It looked surreal, but was actually happening, on a stage in 
>>downtown Detroit.
>>
>>He and I had a long conversation about just that in Miami at the WMC.  He 
>>was so excited to see the piece performed after he licensed the track to the 
>>company for their use, he is already working on something else with the same 
>>choreographer.
>>
>>The Alvin Ailey company is a dance company by which ALL other dance 
>>companies are graded, whether one is aware of them or not, or whether one 
>>supports them or not.  Just as they will take it as far as they can, most 
>>dancers or artists of any genre will do the same--because it is who they 
>>are--not because it is popular or supported.
>>
>>Buy your season tickets to whatever you feel compelled to follow or whatever 
>>YOU feel enriches your one dimensional existence.
>>
>>Oddly, the darkest moments of human existence are always rapidly followed by 
>>'the renaissances' of the arts/existence.  The American government is one of 
>>the only that does not even support a national ballet company, much less a 
>>company like Ailey's.
>>
>>It matters not.  The human imagination exists not to garner a profit...it 
>>simply exists.  Dreaming of Utopia is FREE and cannot be governed.  That was 
>>one thing Hitler failed to realize when he marched into each major city and 
>>immediately seized museums, art, libraries and eliminated any expression of 
>>human existence that were subversive to his goal.
>>
>>Deluded??  Who??
>>
>>Art, of any type, will always stimulate change....but perhaps you LIKE the 
>>way things are now.  Just a guess........
>>
>>
>>>From: "Joshua Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [313] Detroit + Dance (off topic)
>>>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:57:50 -0400
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 7:26 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [313] Detroit + Dance
>>>
>>>
>>> > Still amazes me how dense most Americans are when it comes to the arts.
>>> > Sorry to soap box, but few dancers live very OKAY lives for lack of
>>>support
>>> > in this country.  Most still live the life of the starving artist with a
>>> > couple of other jobs to survive, even while maintianing a position in 
>>>one
>>>of
>>> > the world's most prestigious dance companies.
>>> >
>>> > After all...what is dance music without the dancer.
>>>
>>>Speaking of dance music, isn't the dancer (in America) usually the dense
>>>American?
>>>
>>>If a professional dancer is with "one of the world's most prestigious dance
>>>companies" and still needs to hold multiple jobs, then isn't this a global
>>>issue and not some problem of priorities with "most Americans"?
>>>
>>>Or perhaps the problem is specifically American: "How many poor people, who
>>>envy and hate the rich, nevertheless tolerate monstrous inequalities of
>>>wealth merely because they hope eventually to be among the few who rise to
>>>the top? Some even consider this vicious delusion admirable: 'the American
>>>Dream.'" (Allen Wood).
>>>
>>>Or maybe we average Americans don't support professional dancers because we
>>>are expected, by the dancers, to support them as if they are the string by
>>>which our distorted values cling to the isolated pockets of "critically
>>>aclaimed" cultural enlightenment.
>>>
>>>/j
>>>
>>
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