True. The embarrassment bit though ... hmmm. It's never crossed my mind (ever) that techno was not an analogue or allegorical too what I feel to be man's eternal yearning for the future ... But this yearning, does not seem to be about technology per se (although the theme of what machines can do for man has a certain poignancy to us who live in 'The Future' which classical Sci-Fi envisaged, 'cause machines have expressly NOT liberated us ... certainly not our spirits) ... It's more about 'Electric Dreams' than dreams about electricity.
I can understand however that not everyone who likes this spectrum of music, is a dreamer ... :o) >-----Original Message----- >From: james boylan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:57 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3 > > >I think some people are slightly embarrassed by the futurist >philosophy/mythology that sometimes informs techno and look upon >it with the >same disdain as punks did on some of the excesses of progressive rock, >musical or otherwise. > >Personally, I like some decorations, so to speak...be they heartfelt, >insightful, tongue-in-cheek or just plain pretentious rubbish. > >Its always intriguing at the very least. > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: 313@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3 >>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:30:30 -0800 >> >> >>Well, yes I see your point. The same could be said for classical music. >>Very few musicians have presumed themselves to be good writers as >well. But >>as a music enthusiast, I am interested in how the music came about, not in >>a set of imposed ideas about what the music means. >>alastair >> >> >> >> >>"Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/01/2002 04:26:07 PM >> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> >>Subject: Re: [313] every dog vol 3 >> >> >>On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > >> > I don't think that musicians need writers to transform their work into >> > something that is more meaningful. Most music is equivocal, and it is >>this >> > that has imbued it with so much power and meaning throughout >history. If >>an >> > artist wants some sort of narrative to their work, you'd expect that >>they >> > would be able to string a few sentences together themselves. >> >>Well yes and no. The bottom line is that the music should speak for >>itself...it really doesn't NEED notes right? I've got the cd, and it >>would've STILL been played at full blast for nine hours straight on the >>way home from the demf, without the notes. >> >>But if you're going to add another layer to it...why not use a WRITER? >>This is the jazz model more or less...and it works. Wynton Marsalis >>doesn't write his liner notes...Stanley Crouch does. Now in some cases >>the artist is a qualified writer in his/her own right....but I'd argue >>that these cases are the minority. >> >> >>peace >>lks >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------ >>Warning : The information contained in this message may be privileged and >>confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message >>is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >>dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly >>prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, >please notify >>us immediately by replying to this message and then delete it from your >>computer. All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the >Providian >>Financial corporate e-mail system and is subject to archiving and >review by >>someone other than the recipient. >> >>================================================================== >============ >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]