i can't even begin to imagine how many tracks have the word freak in them.

wanna start a list?

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote:

>
> just tell me this then, why on earth would he call is superfreak? in my
> opinion it's because he's taken freak [ from '92 ] and applied new
> production techniques/equipment  to the original idea... give dan bell some
> credit, at a minimum the inspiration for the name/voice sample. i don't know
> of any tracks that use the same exact word/phrase on a track that sound as
> similar as these two do and also have similar titles.
>
> -pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:36 PM
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [313] bell vs wink / forcefield
>
>
> "Grammenos, Peter" wrote:
>
> > That is a blatant rip off, period! Tracks feel the same, sound the same,
> and
> > probably use the use the same production techniques ! [ one can never be
> > certain ]. How lame, especially for a producer like wink who has been in
> the
> > business for this long. But then again, he isn't the first producer to do
> > this...
>
> you know, i didn't see the similarity between the other bell mp3 that was
> posted
> a couple of weeks ago, but thought i would give him the benefit of the doubt
> until i heard this current that was posted on forcefield.   having checked
> now
> it out, i think it's fairly evident that the tracks have different drum
> sounds
> and programming, different main monosynth lines, and really
> different-sounding
> vocal samples/effects treatments of "freak" (in all honesty, i think wink
> does a
> lot more with the latter than bell).  sure it sounds and feels "like" bell
> (and
> also like robert hood-- especially the monosynth line), but a *lot* of
> techno
> tracks sound and feel "like" other techno tracks.   if wink owes bell
> anything
> over this then samuel l. sessions and every second hard techno producer
> after
> about 1998 or so should be making monthly payments to jeff mills, the
> deepchord
> guys should have already sold their firstborns to the hardwax crew, and
> every
> halfwit who ever lays hand on a tb-303 with the intent of making squelchy
> noises
> should write a cheque to dj pierre & spanky, etc. etc. etc.  the argument
> here
> seems to me to stem more from a dislike for wink and his previous trashy
> rave
> anthems more than it does from any real musical analysis.
>
> glyn
>
>
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