if you think Detroit is bad for this, try living in Lansing, it's a desert
for culture. Unless your a redneck or in to nascar.

be glad that detroit has what it has, at least there are places to get out
into and show your art, I guess we have basements and a few galleries
uphere. but nothing like what I would expect for a town having one major
universty (go msu!) and three colleges.

maybe it's because it's the capital and the republicans took over??

scotto

lansing the land of the 50 person scene

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From: "glyph1001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit


> I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit.  Especially
> where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward
> thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are
> perfect examples).  I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in
> Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years!
>
> And quote
>
> "They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were
> still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where
> people were saying, "You can't have fun!" or "What do you mean play in a
> rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important. "
>
> This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are
> "creative" whose parents would tell them basically that..."get a blue
> collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever"...but until they
> see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when
> you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they
> understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a
> husband, kids...the normal life.  But from what I was told it takes
> people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new
> ideas.  That's just the way it is.
>
> Lates,
>
> g.
>
> Fred Heutte wrote:
>
> >I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but
> >it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the
> >"creative class" in revitalizing cities.
> >
> >In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the "electronic
> >music scene" is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing
> >else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to
> >know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all
> >known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city.  We'll see
> >whether the new mayor rises to that challenge.
> >
> >Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related:
> >
> >http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html
> >
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