if you think Detroit is bad for this, try living in Lansing, it's a desert for culture. Unless your a redneck or in to nascar.
be glad that detroit has what it has, at least there are places to get out into and show your art, I guess we have basements and a few galleries uphere. but nothing like what I would expect for a town having one major universty (go msu!) and three colleges. maybe it's because it's the capital and the republicans took over?? scotto lansing the land of the 50 person scene ----- Original Message ----- From: "glyph1001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit > I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit. Especially > where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward > thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are > perfect examples). I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in > Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years! > > And quote > > "They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were > still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where > people were saying, "You can't have fun!" or "What do you mean play in a > rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important. " > > This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are > "creative" whose parents would tell them basically that..."get a blue > collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever"...but until they > see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when > you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they > understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a > husband, kids...the normal life. But from what I was told it takes > people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new > ideas. That's just the way it is. > > Lates, > > g. > > Fred Heutte wrote: > > >I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but > >it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the > >"creative class" in revitalizing cities. > > > >In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the "electronic > >music scene" is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing > >else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to > >know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all > >known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city. We'll see > >whether the new mayor rises to that challenge. > > > >Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related: > > > >http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]