----- Original Message ----- From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:47 AM Subject: RE: [313] IDM?
> > interestingly enough, the music that spawned the term (such > > as black dog's > > "bytes" and aphex's polygon window) has a *very* detroit sound. > > Sure - these guys had a lot of love for the sounds coming from Detroit at > that time. I think that even before the Artifical Intelligence series on > Warp (2 comps + a series of LPs including some by Polygon Window, Autechre, > Black Dog, B12...), the thing that started it was the ART comps from Kirk > Degiorgio's Applied Rhythmic Technology label ? The ART series were released on New Electronica. I believe it was just the name of the comp(s). The last one (or two) may have been on OpArt, which New Electronica sorta morphed into (again, peicing together memories, but I'm pretty sure this is right). He also put out the 'Global Technological Innovations' series, which also be classified as IDM. If I remember right, I first heard the term in '93, and I think everyone's right, that it was inspired by WARP AI comps and took hold with the mailing list. Those WARP AI comps were seriously crucial in 'explaining' the link between Detroit and british electro f*ckery - think Kenny Larkin on AI II, or Azemuth's US release as an AI album (I think) - I know it was at least released through WARP stateside (never seen the import to know if it was originally a WARP release, although I'd assume it must be, unless R&S had it). The other thing about this term is that it needs to be situated in a historical context. At least stateside, it came out of an aversion to 'rave' sounds, as things like 2 unlimited gained wider exposure. To this day, if you say anything about 'techno' to the uninitiated it evokes images of sporting events and jock jams. It became a tag to slap on your music that differentiated it from the stuff you (maybe) used as a gateway to musical enlightenment only a year or two earlier (lots of irony intended here). Also worth noting, when the term was coined, trance was firmly included in its domain - think Rising High, particularly Casper Pound and Mixmaster Morris, some trancier R&S releases like Sun Electric, and Oliver Lieb. To follow through with this timeline, you could see the inclusion of trance in IDM fade quickly from about '95-'96 as the genre codified into its current form. As someone else mentioned, I think things like intelligent drum 'n bass were included as well. It's a completely crap term used mostly as short-hand b/c it basically meant 'music I like that isn't in an off-limits genre' and now means 'weird sh*t that isn't obviously something else'. :) Tristan ===== Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
