on 12/10/02 7:34 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 17:34 -0600 10-12-2002, techno wrote:
>> Didn't Juan Atkins say in that "black to the future" interview that Red
>> Planet invented trance?
> 
> There is nothing wrong with a track being trance, please people there
> have been trance records before people saw trance as some cheesy
> genre. Maybe everybody knows this by now but Stardancer is a huge
> trance record, even records like Aril Brikha's On and On are
> hypnotizing, so that is trance as well, UR's Seawolf, trance...
> techno can be trance, i like trance records!

UR's Seawolf = Detroit acid

Aril Brikha's On and On = tech-house

hypnotic does not = trance

When I use the word trance it's what people assosiate the music genre with
today.

> 
>> Just because something has a nice string arrangement doesn't mean I'll buy
>> it, BIG F*cking deal, so a lot of you have figured out how to make tracks
>> with stings, pads, and portamento.
>> It's not very hard is it?
> 
> No it isn't... so making a record must be difficult and really heavy
> before it is any good? Oh dear i hope this is not turning into what
> is good and bad techno kinda threads...

I like forward thinking sounding techno with a futuristic vibe.
I'm not one of these guys who hears a new record with stings and pads and
thinks that's quality Detroit techno or dismisses every hard techno record.

> 
>> Let me dust off my old Fuse Dimension Intrusion, and Psyche +8 records from
>> 1993.
> 
> Dust it of? :))))

occasionally I go through some of my old records when I'm in the mood for a
particular record.

> My point, a record can be trance but not trance and it is really
> personal if you like that in track or not and you can' about taste :)

Well there are those trance tracks that sound so cheesy their almost
laughable.
I was listening to this Hispanic (latino) mix radio show and they were
playing a trance remix of Michael Jakson You Are Not Alone.
I once thought about recording trance off the radio and mixing loops with
Robert Hood style minimal techno.

> Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it
> is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is
> definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not
> forced to write this :)

Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels
and music projects.

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