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Good rates too, if you are manufacturing in Europe. o ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Fw: (313) Suburban Knight > > > hear hear - too much pro tools, over-production, or over-mastering. > That's why I keep buying Detroit, cause the producers remember to keep the > grime in there. I heard stories about people asking Ron Murphy to blend in > tape noise from a seperate channel so it can ''sound like Jeff Mills'' - > how > lame is that? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Cyclone Wehner" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:14 AM > > Subject: Re: (313) Suburban Knight > > > > > > > > Gotta agree with you both - it's getting hard to find new releases that > > don't sound super slick - techno, house, what have you. Especially > anything > > tagged tech-house. Blech. I like to hear some intrinsic errors in the > music > > - it makes it sound like someone is actually behind the work. There are > > countless tunes out there that sound so "professional" yet they lack any > > sense of a heartbeat. Take just about anything off the Wiggle label, for > > example. Everything is too clean and smooth - they compensate with a > "phat" > > bassline but the real funk is missing. Give me some ruff cut samples ala > > Todd Edwards/Todd Terry any old day. > > > > MEK > > > > > > > > > > James Bucknell > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> > > com.au> cc: > > Subject: Re: (313) > Suburban > > Knight > > 02/03/03 11:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i've always loved house and techno for their minimalism--a few bits of > > roland equipment and a four track reel to reel. > > > > > > i find most contemporary tracks to be as overproduced as any bit of prog. > > house/trance. it's a challenge to spend any money when i go record > > shopping. > > > > instead, i've taken to re-editing older tracks and saving my money for > > final > > scratch. > > james > > > > > > > > > >> Wibo Lammert: > > >>> As to the Mastering: Those first 2 transmats of his sounds like sh*t. > > That > > >>> Dark Energy doublepack sounds a whole lot better. > > >> > > >> Gotta disagree wth u for the first time old bean (let's not make a > habit > > of > > >> this ;-) - My opinion is that 'Art of Stalking' along with many other > > >> seminal Detroit techno (which implies a particular period) benefitted, > > >> purposefully or not, from the ironic lack of the latest technology at > > all > > >> points of the production process. Those trax sound grimy, glitchy, > > scratchy > > >> and minimal, sometimes even the sequencing is a bit suspect. But > somehow > > (I > > >> admit, I'm not sure how) often, all those elements came together to > form > > an > > >> unmistable kind of human touch which proved there really was a ghost in > > the > > >> machine (called soul.) > > >> k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >